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Racho Wrote:
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> Banging away at the granite...didn't get too far
> with modern tools really/obviously.
>
> check this out...
> [www.youtube.com]
>
> 1:56 min mark.
>
> probably seen before but I have to come back to
> the Longou caves. Trying to tell me that this
> doesn't look machined? No record of construction
> and we know how far back China's records go back.
> Damn far. There is a photo of a modern boring
> machine right after - now something like that I
> can buy into. ;)
>
> D
>
> edited to add that I've now watched the whole vid
> and this is smoking gun stuff. Of course this was
> machined...I mean there are clear comparisons to
> modern machine markings to those of the cave and
> it's an exact match. My guess is that they weren't
> steam powered either.

And yet the notion, "Well, they obviously knew how to do it with the relatively primitive tools they had!", just doesn't cut it.

I would submit that it's impossible to navigate a hand chisel in such precise parallel lines.

Where on earth are those tools?!

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 25-Apr-17 14:23 by Origyptian.

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 2649 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 678 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 598 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 597 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 209 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 241 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 508 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 451 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 293 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 476 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 408 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 467 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 603 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 683 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 369 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 470 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 426 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 316 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 214 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 224 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 260 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 228 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 291 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 240 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 295 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 254 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 194 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 142 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 198 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 178 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 192 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 178 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 185 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 164 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 382 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
Re: Would you agree... 445 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 296 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 353 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 262 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 312 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 306 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 330 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 322 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 252 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 249 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 273 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 308 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 262 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 265 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 366 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 311 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 285 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 326 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 285 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 281 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 320 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 282 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 335 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 274 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 296 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 287 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 277 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 409 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 263 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 375 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 373 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 304 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 307 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 273 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 269 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 261 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 323 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 275 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 279 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 277 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 331 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 290 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 288 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 271 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 419 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 418 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 353 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 308 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 330 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 307 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 361 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 305 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 291 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 292 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 305 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 285 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 336 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 351 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 291 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 280 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 265 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 337 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 302 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 296 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 311 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 255 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 375 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 176 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 329 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 197 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 286 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 284 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 266 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 272 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 320 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 326 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 165 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 165 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 260 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 357 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 200 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 320 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 272 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 262 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 328 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 231 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 247 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 285 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 215 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 287 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 205 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 282 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 206 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 271 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 295 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 193 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 264 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 190 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 231 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 229 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 473 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 271 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 278 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 349 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 380 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 296 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 294 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 381 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 443 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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