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Whoa, that's no hand tool making those striations at marker 0:44.

What kind of stone is that at 19:07? Gorgeous!

That pigeon holing reminds me of soundproofing in an otherwise echo chamber. For example.



If so, what could have gone on in such rooms to create any noise in the first place?

Jordan, Israel, Italy, Turkey?

At least some of those structures may have been adapted by Romans who took possession of those already ancient formations and carved their own designs into them to make them their own (such as Corinthian capitals, etc.).

Do you think that pass through the ridge at 29:56 is a natural gap, manmade ancient, or manmade modern? Based on the facing stone along that gap, it appears to be just as ancient.

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 2545 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 617 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 523 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 529 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 169 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 189 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 449 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 385 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 250 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 424 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 333 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 395 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 545 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 625 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 320 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 413 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 370 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 266 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 176 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 187 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 213 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 184 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 235 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 184 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 233 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 189 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 158 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 108 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 154 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 135 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 152 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 136 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 140 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 122 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 314 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
Re: Would you agree... 387 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 259 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 308 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 220 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 265 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 252 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 268 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 270 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 201 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 211 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 228 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 263 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 218 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 240 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 314 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 258 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 232 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 273 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 241 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 243 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 275 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 239 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 271 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 225 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 253 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 236 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 227 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 352 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 210 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 331 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 314 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 255 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 266 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 229 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 222 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 215 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 273 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 230 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 229 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 232 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 279 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 244 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 236 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 229 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 364 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 356 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 295 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 262 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 287 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 235 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 289 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 258 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 242 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 245 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 264 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 243 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 286 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 271 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 253 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 228 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 222 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 284 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 253 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 245 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 264 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 208 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 303 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 142 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 276 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 162 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 246 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 237 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 227 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 223 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 263 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 272 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 138 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 125 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 217 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 306 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 159 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 265 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 228 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 217 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 271 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 180 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 208 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 235 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 170 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 238 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 158 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 234 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 160 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 227 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 241 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 151 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 220 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 147 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 183 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 189 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 415 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 227 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 229 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 287 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 329 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 252 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 239 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 301 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 371 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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