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We know the mols scale...and we know that copper/bronze isn't up to the job - a job all can agree occurred on a massive scale.

Dunn has established feed rates/striations and, using science/math, this has been determined. Stock's? ...sand abrasive doesn't produce feed rates or striations. There are marks in the Chinese cave (many other locations around the Earth as well) which certainly don't resemble chiseling. They simply don't ...and aren't.

Our intellect allows us to view Dunn's conclusions as reasonable/likely...same allows me to scoff at quartz tipped toothpicks and copper saws/drill bits.

Even if I was to go with 5cm/hour...the Serapeum boxes are perfect and there isn't enough room in those hallways to push/pull/drag and place - let alone the perfection achieved. Not done by hand Warwick.

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 2505 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 595 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 499 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 498 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 157 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 172 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 431 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 368 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 237 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 403 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 311 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 372 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 530 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 611 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 301 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 398 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 355 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 251 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 160 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 169 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 197 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 165 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 218 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 165 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 213 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 167 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 143 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 98 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 138 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 117 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 136 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 119 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 120 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 103 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 291 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
Re: Would you agree... 367 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 246 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 286 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 210 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 254 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 229 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 253 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 251 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 189 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 200 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 216 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 250 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 209 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 229 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 299 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 240 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 215 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 254 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 228 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 234 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 260 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 221 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 257 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 216 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 240 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 228 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 210 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 336 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 193 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 317 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 294 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 245 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 250 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 214 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 207 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 205 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 262 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 217 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 217 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 222 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 265 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 234 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 219 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 217 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 347 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 340 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 281 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 253 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 272 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 211 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 270 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 247 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 227 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 230 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 251 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 230 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 270 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 251 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 239 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 212 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 211 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 268 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 232 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 231 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 252 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 194 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 284 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 134 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 261 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 151 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 229 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 223 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 217 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 213 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 242 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 255 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 131 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 118 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 202 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 282 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 143 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 251 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 214 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 205 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 253 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 167 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 196 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 222 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 156 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 226 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 143 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 219 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 144 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 215 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 226 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 135 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 203 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 131 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 166 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 173 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 400 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 210 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 210 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 267 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 312 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 236 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 219 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 271 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 349 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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