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Fsbirdhouse Wrote:
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> Having made many cuts on iron with Band Saws over
> the years, I can tell ya any variance off a line
> is instantly recognizable to the naked eye if you
> are paying any attention at all, and I think all
> here would agree that whether in wood, stone, or
> iron, when we put any tool to the business of
> making a cut, we want that cut to follow the mark
> exactly.
> I think we must look to some form of automation,
> or crew of cutters relying on a foreman/overseer
> while they do nothing at all but supply the
> manpower, and that overseer dead or drunk,
> allowing them to continue unknowing.
> You just can't get that far off the mark for the
> time it must have taken to get that far with the
> mistake, and not have known you were doing it
> unless some catastrophic distraction intervened.

Of course, an alternative is if the cutting technology was so fast that even prompt recognition of the mistake was already too late. This could happen with exceptionally productive cutting tool which could take some time to shut down. Just think of how long it takes to stop an industrial wood chipper if something mistakenly enters the maw! How much more "harm" can occur once the mistake is first noticed?

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11-Apr-17 19:55 by Origyptian.

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 2764 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 724 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 659 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 648 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 257 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 285 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 559 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 521 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 332 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 517 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 472 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 532 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 664 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 724 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 412 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 524 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 473 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 363 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 260 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 266 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 325 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 265 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 339 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 298 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 344 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 314 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 224 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 172 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 228 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 208 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 224 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 210 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 215 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 194 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 447 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
Re: Would you agree... 508 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 343 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 393 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 299 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 355 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 352 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 377 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 371 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 296 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 296 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 322 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 350 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 301 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 312 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 419 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 352 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 324 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 383 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 330 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 323 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 362 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 325 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 389 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 313 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 335 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 328 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 333 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 462 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 306 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 414 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 422 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 350 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 346 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 336 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 316 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 304 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 368 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 326 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 319 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 327 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 372 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 331 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 331 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 323 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 473 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 473 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 406 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 356 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 382 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 362 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 411 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 354 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 338 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 341 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 346 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 329 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 394 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 409 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 332 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 331 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 305 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 383 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 341 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 340 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 353 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 310 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 423 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 236 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 375 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 226 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 329 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 322 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 304 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 311 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 365 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 371 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 194 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 206 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 303 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 403 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 254 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 372 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 312 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 306 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 378 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 287 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 305 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 329 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 254 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 331 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 255 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 327 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 249 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 314 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 341 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 248 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 307 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 236 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 270 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 271 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 528 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 315 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 322 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 397 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 435 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 335 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 340 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 448 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 502 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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