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I tried drilling granite with a copper tube and sand and just about anything else I could lay hands on..
I could polish down the surface irregularities and then it just brick walled.
I wanted it to work and I thought at a stretch it might. In fact it's what finally convinced me that orthodoxy is full of crap.
There's no way that it could ever have been tried successfully.
I've never seen it done. Not on red granite anyways.
I might try again as I have a chunk of red granite to play with.
Some people keep jawing on about polishing but that's not cutting.
Polishing a raw granite block into an intricate statue??????
Give it a go, I used a 1/2 inch copper plumbing tube.
How the hell the AE ever managed to make an extruded copper tube I don't know.
The problems just back up.
Where did they get enough copper ore?
Where did they get enough wood to burn to make the copper.
How did they make the robust copper tube?
What did they use as hard solder?

Anyways give it a try see how you get on.





Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11-Apr-17 19:16 by Jon Ellison.

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 3118 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 822 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 753 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 724 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 315 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 361 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 625 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 604 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 383 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 576 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 552 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 601 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 714 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 793 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 491 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 579 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 526 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 414 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 334 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 316 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 375 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 315 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 408 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 359 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 395 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 381 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 291 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 224 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 290 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 259 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 275 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 277 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 289 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 250 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 526 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 72 Racho 20-Dec-19 20:04
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 66 Martin Stower 20-Dec-19 23:47
? 57 Racho 21-Dec-19 01:25
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 66 Open mind 21-Dec-19 02:03
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 67 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 04:19
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 70 Open mind 21-Dec-19 05:07
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 96 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 16:25
Re: Would you agree... 582 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 391 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 437 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 351 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 402 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 404 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 438 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 417 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 345 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 348 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 367 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 401 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 355 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 379 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 485 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 397 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 390 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 444 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 385 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 396 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 416 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 388 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 453 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 358 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 393 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 382 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 405 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 511 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 375 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 458 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 473 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 402 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 406 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 420 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 379 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 364 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 417 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 387 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 367 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 368 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 424 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 391 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 383 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 381 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 535 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 521 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 458 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 423 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 438 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 431 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 481 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 413 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 400 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 385 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 405 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 386 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 461 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 473 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 393 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 389 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 382 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 431 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 400 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 384 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 410 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 372 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 478 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 281 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 430 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 273 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 385 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 369 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 351 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 358 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 419 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 430 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 240 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 267 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 359 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 460 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 304 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 430 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 358 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 350 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 425 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 354 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 363 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 395 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 309 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 388 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 314 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 392 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 313 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 366 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 409 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 304 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 379 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 284 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 337 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 336 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 592 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 362 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 370 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 456 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 504 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 380 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 402 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 516 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 556 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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