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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Warwick Wrote:
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> > > > > > Then you jump to the
> > conclusion...forsaking
> > > > the
> > > > > > test...7 days later.
> > > > >
> > > > > What conclusion is that??? I don't yet
> have
> > a
> > > > > conclusion.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Are you now saying that the AE's might have
> > > done
> > > > it?
> > > >
> > > > If not you've made your conclusion
> > >
> > > Incorrect...
> > > "might"??
> > >
> > > My conclusion is that at this time we have no
> > idea
> > > who, why or how the structure was built.
> >
> > I will agree that the jury is out
> >
> >
> > >
> > > The one candidate often put forward, the 4th
> > > dynasty AE technological culture, did not
> have,
> > > according to the extant archeological
> physical
> > > record of their design, tooling
> >
> >
> > in your opinion
> >
> > and construction
> > > capabilities,
> >
> > There I disagree with your conclusion, strongly
> >
> > the construction infrastructure
> >
> >
> > there I completely disagree
> >
> > and
> > > support systems necessary to even conceive of
> > the
> > > project.
> >
> >
> > Now you are going too far
> >
> >
> > > I therefore conclude that according to the
> > known
> > > physical archeological record, it is highly
> > > unlikely that the Fourth Dynasty AE built the
> > > Great Pyramid
> >
> >
> >
> > I will cede the unlikely based on your
> > understanding
> >
> >
> > and that the Fourth Dynasty AE can
> > > be eliminated from the issue.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > That last bit sounds suspiciously like a
> > conclusion
> >
> >
> > >
> > > The pyramid was built by a lost technological
> > > culture.
> > > Which will remain lost until found.
> >
> >
> >
> > What are you doing to find it?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > So therefore as yet, I have no conclusion as
> to
> > > who, when and why.
> >
> >
> > Just who not, when not, and why not.
> >
> >
> > Have you EVER mentally free associated on the
> > WHY?
> >
> > Not even an iota of thought as to what the
> purpose
> > might have been?
> >
> > Do you want to know?
> >
> > Cuz it seems to me is that you only wish to
> find
> > out what other think
> >
> >
> > Warwick
>
>
> Well that was a consise collection of ridiculous
> statements wasn't it.



that's concise to you.


> My interest is in applied techniques,
> technologies.


My interest is in applied beliefs


> Some of which are lost in that we have no
> understanding of how they were achieved.
> Lost technologies... Mysteries if you will. Hence
> this forum and the debate.
> I'm not particularly interested in the
> civilization, race, sex, colour, flavour,
> nationality or age of the practitioners of the
> lost technology.



Now that is a Mystery to ME



>
> I'm interested in the lost techniques.
> You say that there are no lost techniques??



Where did I ever say that???


> You say that you are fully aware of all of the
> techniques necessary in the construction of a
> multi million ton pyramid comprised of many and
> varied and for me at least, unfathomable
> techniques??


I say that I appreciate the demands of a project of this nature...yes.


> You say that there is no mystery??


I have never said that about our past....NEVER!


> You say that there is no need for a search because
> all has been discovered??



Never said that either


>
> Then good for you. It must be sheer bliss living
> comfortably in the realm of the all knowing.
> I however am not convinced, call me Mr. sceptical
> if you like but for now and if you don't have any
> objection I'll go on looking.
> Because..
> I'm not convinced.



NIce little speech wherein you summarised your opinion of opinions that I do not share.


>
> PS, I'll go on looking even if you do object.



When did I object? Indeed I thought by asking my questions that I was Demanding that you go on looking


>
> Oh by the way .. Reverse Engineering... The
> purpose comes last, not first.

The reason for building something comes first


Unless you are proposing a civilisation of idiot savants


Warwick

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 2544 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 616 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 521 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 528 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 169 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 188 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 449 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 385 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 250 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 423 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 333 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 394 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 545 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 625 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 320 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 413 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 370 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 265 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 175 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 186 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 213 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 183 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 235 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 182 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 233 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 188 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 158 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 108 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 153 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 135 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 152 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 135 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 138 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 121 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 313 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
Re: Would you agree... 386 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 259 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 307 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 220 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 265 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 250 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 268 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 268 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 200 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 210 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 227 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 263 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 218 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 239 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 313 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 257 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 232 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 273 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 240 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 242 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 275 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 238 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 271 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 224 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 253 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 236 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 226 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 352 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 210 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 331 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 313 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 254 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 266 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 229 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 222 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 215 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 273 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 230 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 229 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 232 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 279 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 244 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 236 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 229 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 363 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 356 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 295 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 262 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 287 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 231 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 289 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 257 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 242 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 243 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 264 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 243 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 286 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 269 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 253 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 228 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 222 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 282 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 252 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 244 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 264 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 208 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 303 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 141 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 275 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 161 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 245 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 237 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 226 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 223 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 262 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 272 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 138 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 125 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 215 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 305 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 157 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 264 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 227 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 216 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 270 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 179 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 207 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 234 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 170 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 237 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 158 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 233 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 160 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 226 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 240 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 151 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 219 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 147 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 182 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 187 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 415 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 225 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 227 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 286 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 329 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 252 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 238 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 300 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 370 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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