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Warwick Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Warwick Wrote:
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> > > > > Then you jump to the
> conclusion...forsaking
> > > the
> > > > > test...7 days later.
> > > >
> > > > What conclusion is that??? I don't yet have
> a
> > > > conclusion.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Are you now saying that the AE's might have
> > done
> > > it?
> > >
> > > If not you've made your conclusion
> >
> > Incorrect...
> > "might"??
> >
> > My conclusion is that at this time we have no
> idea
> > who, why or how the structure was built.
>
> I will agree that the jury is out
>
>
> >
> > The one candidate often put forward, the 4th
> > dynasty AE technological culture, did not have,
> > according to the extant archeological physical
> > record of their design, tooling
>
>
> in your opinion
>
> and construction
> > capabilities,
>
> There I disagree with your conclusion, strongly
>
> the construction infrastructure
>
>
> there I completely disagree
>
> and
> > support systems necessary to even conceive of
> the
> > project.
>
>
> Now you are going too far
>
>
> > I therefore conclude that according to the
> known
> > physical archeological record, it is highly
> > unlikely that the Fourth Dynasty AE built the
> > Great Pyramid
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>
>
> I will cede the unlikely based on your
> understanding
>
>
> and that the Fourth Dynasty AE can
> > be eliminated from the issue.
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>
>
>
> That last bit sounds suspiciously like a
> conclusion
>
>
> >
> > The pyramid was built by a lost technological
> > culture.
> > Which will remain lost until found.
>
>
>
> What are you doing to find it?
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>
> >
> > So therefore as yet, I have no conclusion as to
> > who, when and why.
>
>
> Just who not, when not, and why not.
>
>
> Have you EVER mentally free associated on the
> WHY?
>
> Not even an iota of thought as to what the purpose
> might have been?
>
> Do you want to know?
>
> Cuz it seems to me is that you only wish to find
> out what other think
>
>
> Warwick


Well that was a concise collection of ridiculous statements wasn't it.
My interest is in applied techniques, technologies.
Some of which are lost in that we have no understanding of how they were achieved.
Lost technologies... Mysteries if you will. Hence this forum and the debate.
I'm not particularly interested in the civilization, race, sex, colour, flavour, nationality or age of the practitioners of the lost technology.

I'm interested in the lost techniques.
You say that there are no lost techniques??
You say that you are fully aware of all of the techniques necessary in the construction of a multi million ton pyramid comprised of many and varied and for me at least, unfathomable techniques??
You say that there is no mystery??
You say that there is no need for a search because all has been discovered??

Then good for you. It must be sheer bliss living comfortably in the realm of the all knowing.
I however am not convinced, call me Mr. sceptical if you like but for now and if you don't have any objection I'll go on looking.
Because..
I'm not convinced.

PS, I'll go on looking even if you do object.

Oh by the way .. Reverse Engineering... The purpose comes last, not first.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10-Apr-17 19:25 by Jon Ellison.

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 3042 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 787 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 723 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 693 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 290 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 336 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 596 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 570 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 357 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 549 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 512 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 574 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 689 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 765 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 463 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 551 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 501 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 387 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 301 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 293 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 353 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 291 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 380 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 333 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 373 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 354 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 262 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 199 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 266 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 237 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 250 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 252 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 256 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 225 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 483 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 52 Racho 20-Dec-19 20:04
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 46 Martin Stower 20-Dec-19 23:47
? 38 Racho 21-Dec-19 01:25
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 47 Open mind 21-Dec-19 02:03
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 48 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 04:19
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 50 Open mind 21-Dec-19 05:07
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 62 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 16:25
Re: Would you agree... 548 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 368 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 414 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 331 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 378 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 377 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 401 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 393 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 320 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 324 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 344 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 376 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 330 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 351 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 448 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 376 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 365 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 411 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 362 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 353 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 386 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 351 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 428 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 334 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 364 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 352 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 370 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 487 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 344 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 435 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 446 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 378 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 368 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 377 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 352 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 339 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 391 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 359 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 342 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 347 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 402 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 366 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 355 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 356 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 509 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 495 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 433 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 391 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 410 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 400 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 456 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 388 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 371 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 362 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 378 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 363 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 431 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 445 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 366 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 363 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 346 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 408 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 376 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 361 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 386 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 346 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 456 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 259 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 404 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 249 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 362 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 345 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 328 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 336 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 391 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 405 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 217 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 242 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 335 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 433 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 280 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 404 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 334 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 328 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 401 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 324 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 338 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 356 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 283 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 360 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 288 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 361 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 285 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 342 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 381 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 283 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 334 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 262 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 310 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 307 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 565 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 338 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 345 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 426 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 473 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 357 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 377 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 482 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 527 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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