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Warwick Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Warwick Wrote:
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> > > > > Then you jump to the
> conclusion...forsaking
> > > the
> > > > > test...7 days later.
> > > >
> > > > What conclusion is that??? I don't yet have
> a
> > > > conclusion.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Are you now saying that the AE's might have
> > done
> > > it?
> > >
> > > If not you've made your conclusion
> >
> > Incorrect...
> > "might"??
> >
> > My conclusion is that at this time we have no
> idea
> > who, why or how the structure was built.
>
> I will agree that the jury is out
>
>
> >
> > The one candidate often put forward, the 4th
> > dynasty AE technological culture, did not have,
> > according to the extant archeological physical
> > record of their design, tooling
>
>
> in your opinion
>
> and construction
> > capabilities,
>
> There I disagree with your conclusion, strongly
>
> the construction infrastructure
>
>
> there I completely disagree
>
> and
> > support systems necessary to even conceive of
> the
> > project.
>
>
> Now you are going too far
>
>
> > I therefore conclude that according to the
> known
> > physical archeological record, it is highly
> > unlikely that the Fourth Dynasty AE built the
> > Great Pyramid
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>
>
> I will cede the unlikely based on your
> understanding
>
>
> and that the Fourth Dynasty AE can
> > be eliminated from the issue.
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>
>
>
> That last bit sounds suspiciously like a
> conclusion
>
>
> >
> > The pyramid was built by a lost technological
> > culture.
> > Which will remain lost until found.
>
>
>
> What are you doing to find it?
>
>
> >
> > So therefore as yet, I have no conclusion as to
> > who, when and why.
>
>
> Just who not, when not, and why not.
>
>
> Have you EVER mentally free associated on the
> WHY?
>
> Not even an iota of thought as to what the purpose
> might have been?
>
> Do you want to know?
>
> Cuz it seems to me is that you only wish to find
> out what other think
>
>
> Warwick


Well that was a concise collection of ridiculous statements wasn't it.
My interest is in applied techniques, technologies.
Some of which are lost in that we have no understanding of how they were achieved.
Lost technologies... Mysteries if you will. Hence this forum and the debate.
I'm not particularly interested in the civilization, race, sex, colour, flavour, nationality or age of the practitioners of the lost technology.

I'm interested in the lost techniques.
You say that there are no lost techniques??
You say that you are fully aware of all of the techniques necessary in the construction of a multi million ton pyramid comprised of many and varied and for me at least, unfathomable techniques??
You say that there is no mystery??
You say that there is no need for a search because all has been discovered??

Then good for you. It must be sheer bliss living comfortably in the realm of the all knowing.
I however am not convinced, call me Mr. sceptical if you like but for now and if you don't have any objection I'll go on looking.
Because..
I'm not convinced.

PS, I'll go on looking even if you do object.

Oh by the way .. Reverse Engineering... The purpose comes last, not first.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10-Apr-17 19:25 by Jon Ellison.

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 3363 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 924 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 830 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 818 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 385 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 435 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 697 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 692 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 461 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 655 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 638 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 702 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 789 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 885 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 578 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 657 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 602 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 514 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 413 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 390 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 462 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 395 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 484 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 444 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 490 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 467 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 362 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 296 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 371 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 336 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 347 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 351 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 363 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 328 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 620 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 131 Racho 20-Dec-19 20:04
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 139 Martin Stower 20-Dec-19 23:47
? 119 Racho 21-Dec-19 01:25
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 131 Open mind 21-Dec-19 02:03
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 133 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 04:19
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 139 Open mind 21-Dec-19 05:07
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 173 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 16:25
Re: Would you agree... 668 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 466 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 518 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 423 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 475 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 477 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 517 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 497 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 466 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 427 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 444 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 482 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 428 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 455 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 562 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 479 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 469 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 546 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 453 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 513 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 496 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 472 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 536 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 433 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 473 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 457 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 489 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 588 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 451 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 529 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 558 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 473 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 483 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 503 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 462 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 434 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 491 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 464 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 450 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 437 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 492 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 467 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 471 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 451 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 609 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 603 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 524 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 499 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 519 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 525 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 569 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 480 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 475 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 463 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 479 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 459 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 562 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 555 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 464 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 483 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 475 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 522 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 486 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 483 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 479 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 442 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 558 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 356 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 506 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 345 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 459 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 460 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 429 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 438 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 502 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 500 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 303 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 346 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 426 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 538 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 374 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 507 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 432 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 421 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 498 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 423 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 437 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 479 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 379 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 465 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 385 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 462 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 374 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 459 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 487 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 371 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 452 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 351 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 404 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 403 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 669 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 434 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 451 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 546 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 576 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 455 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 474 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 696 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 630 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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