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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Warwick Wrote:
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> > Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > > Blistered hand shown..
> > >
> > > Brass tools, steel tools, and hard tipped
> > tools.
> > > Copper tools for experimental purposes.
> > >
> > > The hard igneos rock, granite work could not
> > have
> > > been achieved using copper or copper alloy
> > tools.
> > > Which is exactly why we don't use or would
> even
> > > attempt to use copper or copper alloys today,
> > and
> > > as far as I know have never been used for
> > carving
> > > or working hard igneous rock.
> > > Copper alloys may have been tried in the past
> > with
> > > similar negative results to that we see
> today,
> > > thus abandoned.
> > >
> > > Which is why we went on to develop steel
> tools
> > > with hardened tips.
> > >
> > > Something else was afoot.
> > > Something that we have no knowledge of, or
> > > understanding of, or physical evidence of
> > today.
> > > A lost technology. Both in material and
> > > technique.
> > > We first need to fully acknowledge that we
> have
> > no
> > > idea how these constructs were produced..
> >
> >
> > It's impossible to discuss this topic
> rationally
> > with people who constantly cite absolutes from
> > personal authority as if that's worth more than
> a
> > piece of stale cheese.
> >
> > First a test is proposed.
>
> WHO proposed a test??? Who first mentioned
> testing?? Date and time please..
>



Racho did, when he started the thread




> >
> > Then you jump to the conclusion...forsaking the
> > test...7 days later.
>
> What conclusion is that??? I don't yet have a
> conclusion.
>



Are you now saying that the AE's might have done it?

If not you've made your conclusion





> >
> > I won't mention all the disputed results of
> > testing so far. They've been debated to death.
>
> Please do so.


Do you know what debated to death means???



>
>
> >
> > But I will stress that until the right tests
> are
> > done...the jury is still out
>
> What in your considered opinion are the "Right"
> tests????
>
>



The one I have proposed all over this thread



> >
> > Or...you can provide evidence for someone else,
> > some other time, for some other reason
>
> ?????????????
>







MY point exactly
>
> >
> >
> > Warwick
> >
> >
> > PS I might just keep repeating this like
> > Cladkings Ramp mantra
>
> PS.........Yes you probably will..



No...I won't. My copy of "The Hoax" should be in the post today.

More to follow



Warwick

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 3168 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 859 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 767 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 749 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 330 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 377 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 639 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 629 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 401 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 598 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 574 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 628 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 732 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 815 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 511 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 595 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 543 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 449 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 352 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 333 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 396 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 332 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 427 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 377 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 414 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 401 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 309 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 239 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 307 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 277 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 290 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 294 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 304 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 267 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 551 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 81 Racho 20-Dec-19 20:04
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 77 Martin Stower 20-Dec-19 23:47
? 66 Racho 21-Dec-19 01:25
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 76 Open mind 21-Dec-19 02:03
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 77 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 04:19
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 80 Open mind 21-Dec-19 05:07
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 112 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 16:25
Re: Would you agree... 603 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 409 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 455 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 367 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 413 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 420 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 456 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 433 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 360 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 366 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 384 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 423 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 370 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 397 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 505 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 414 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 406 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 469 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 399 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 425 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 436 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 412 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 473 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 374 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 411 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 398 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 425 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 528 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 393 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 471 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 498 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 419 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 429 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 441 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 399 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 376 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 433 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 406 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 385 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 381 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 435 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 409 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 412 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 395 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 553 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 543 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 469 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 438 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 460 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 452 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 501 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 429 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 421 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 403 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 420 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 402 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 486 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 498 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 408 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 414 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 412 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 454 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 420 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 400 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 427 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 385 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 495 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 296 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 450 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 290 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 403 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 385 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 368 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 373 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 439 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 443 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 254 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 283 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 369 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 480 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 316 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 451 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 374 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 364 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 443 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 368 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 379 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 416 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 324 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 406 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 330 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 408 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 325 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 390 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 427 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 320 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 396 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 299 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 347 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 352 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 614 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 378 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 392 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 474 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 523 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 397 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 421 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 538 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 572 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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