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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Warwick Wrote:
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> > Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > > Blistered hand shown..
> > >
> > > Brass tools, steel tools, and hard tipped
> > tools.
> > > Copper tools for experimental purposes.
> > >
> > > The hard igneos rock, granite work could not
> > have
> > > been achieved using copper or copper alloy
> > tools.
> > > Which is exactly why we don't use or would
> even
> > > attempt to use copper or copper alloys today,
> > and
> > > as far as I know have never been used for
> > carving
> > > or working hard igneous rock.
> > > Copper alloys may have been tried in the past
> > with
> > > similar negative results to that we see
> today,
> > > thus abandoned.
> > >
> > > Which is why we went on to develop steel
> tools
> > > with hardened tips.
> > >
> > > Something else was afoot.
> > > Something that we have no knowledge of, or
> > > understanding of, or physical evidence of
> > today.
> > > A lost technology. Both in material and
> > > technique.
> > > We first need to fully acknowledge that we
> have
> > no
> > > idea how these constructs were produced..
> >
> >
> > It's impossible to discuss this topic
> rationally
> > with people who constantly cite absolutes from
> > personal authority as if that's worth more than
> a
> > piece of stale cheese.
> >
> > First a test is proposed.
>
> WHO proposed a test??? Who first mentioned
> testing?? Date and time please..
>



Racho did, when he started the thread




> >
> > Then you jump to the conclusion...forsaking the
> > test...7 days later.
>
> What conclusion is that??? I don't yet have a
> conclusion.
>



Are you now saying that the AE's might have done it?

If not you've made your conclusion





> >
> > I won't mention all the disputed results of
> > testing so far. They've been debated to death.
>
> Please do so.


Do you know what debated to death means???



>
>
> >
> > But I will stress that until the right tests
> are
> > done...the jury is still out
>
> What in your considered opinion are the "Right"
> tests????
>
>



The one I have proposed all over this thread



> >
> > Or...you can provide evidence for someone else,
> > some other time, for some other reason
>
> ?????????????
>







MY point exactly
>
> >
> >
> > Warwick
> >
> >
> > PS I might just keep repeating this like
> > Cladkings Ramp mantra
>
> PS.........Yes you probably will..



No...I won't. My copy of "The Hoax" should be in the post today.

More to follow



Warwick

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 2503 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 594 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 497 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 495 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 155 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 170 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 430 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 367 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 236 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 401 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 308 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 370 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 529 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 611 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 299 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 396 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 355 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 250 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 158 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 167 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 194 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 165 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 218 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 163 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 210 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 166 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 141 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 97 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 134 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 114 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 136 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 117 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 118 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 102 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 289 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
Re: Would you agree... 366 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 246 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 285 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 210 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 253 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 226 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 251 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 247 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 188 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 200 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 214 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 248 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 205 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 227 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 295 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 238 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 214 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 253 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 228 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 233 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 258 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 219 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 256 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 214 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 237 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 226 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 208 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 335 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 192 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 316 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 293 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 244 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 248 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 212 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 206 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 205 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 261 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 217 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 216 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 220 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 262 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 234 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 217 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 216 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 347 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 339 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 279 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 252 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 270 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 208 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 270 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 245 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 227 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 228 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 249 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 230 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 267 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 251 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 237 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 211 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 210 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 267 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 230 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 230 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 249 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 193 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 281 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 134 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 259 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 149 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 228 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 223 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 215 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 213 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 240 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 254 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 131 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 118 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 198 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 280 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 139 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 249 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 214 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 204 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 252 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 163 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 195 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 221 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 153 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 226 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 140 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 218 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 143 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 212 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 224 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 135 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 202 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 128 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 163 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 171 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 397 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 209 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 208 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 266 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 311 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 236 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 217 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 268 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 349 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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