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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Warwick Wrote:
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> > Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > > Blistered hand shown..
> > >
> > > Brass tools, steel tools, and hard tipped
> > tools.
> > > Copper tools for experimental purposes.
> > >
> > > The hard igneos rock, granite work could not
> > have
> > > been achieved using copper or copper alloy
> > tools.
> > > Which is exactly why we don't use or would
> even
> > > attempt to use copper or copper alloys today,
> > and
> > > as far as I know have never been used for
> > carving
> > > or working hard igneous rock.
> > > Copper alloys may have been tried in the past
> > with
> > > similar negative results to that we see
> today,
> > > thus abandoned.
> > >
> > > Which is why we went on to develop steel
> tools
> > > with hardened tips.
> > >
> > > Something else was afoot.
> > > Something that we have no knowledge of, or
> > > understanding of, or physical evidence of
> > today.
> > > A lost technology. Both in material and
> > > technique.
> > > We first need to fully acknowledge that we
> have
> > no
> > > idea how these constructs were produced..
> >
> >
> > It's impossible to discuss this topic
> rationally
> > with people who constantly cite absolutes from
> > personal authority as if that's worth more than
> a
> > piece of stale cheese.
> >
> > First a test is proposed.
>
> WHO proposed a test??? Who first mentioned
> testing?? Date and time please..
>



Racho did, when he started the thread




> >
> > Then you jump to the conclusion...forsaking the
> > test...7 days later.
>
> What conclusion is that??? I don't yet have a
> conclusion.
>



Are you now saying that the AE's might have done it?

If not you've made your conclusion





> >
> > I won't mention all the disputed results of
> > testing so far. They've been debated to death.
>
> Please do so.


Do you know what debated to death means???



>
>
> >
> > But I will stress that until the right tests
> are
> > done...the jury is still out
>
> What in your considered opinion are the "Right"
> tests????
>
>



The one I have proposed all over this thread



> >
> > Or...you can provide evidence for someone else,
> > some other time, for some other reason
>
> ?????????????
>







MY point exactly
>
> >
> >
> > Warwick
> >
> >
> > PS I might just keep repeating this like
> > Cladkings Ramp mantra
>
> PS.........Yes you probably will..



No...I won't. My copy of "The Hoax" should be in the post today.

More to follow



Warwick

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 2349 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 509 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 403 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 370 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 116 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 123 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 336 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 259 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 181 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 317 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 242 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 277 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 434 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 523 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 216 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 302 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 249 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 176 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 112 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 119 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 164 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 108 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 154 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 98 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 148 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 125 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 96 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 80 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 89 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 70 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 88 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 71 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 64 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 72 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 205 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
Re: Would you agree... 277 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 184 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 213 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 166 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 187 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 167 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 180 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 174 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 144 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 152 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 148 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 191 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 153 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 193 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 232 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 171 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 151 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 179 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 166 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 180 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 209 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 157 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 185 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 158 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 170 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 165 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 151 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 270 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 139 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 257 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 203 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 173 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 183 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 164 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 149 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 152 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 187 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 152 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 159 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 155 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 183 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 159 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 160 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 166 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 251 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 262 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 187 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 196 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 183 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 123 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 194 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 190 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 173 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 164 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 170 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 168 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 188 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 183 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 184 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 154 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 155 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 188 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 144 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 170 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 189 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 144 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 176 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 107 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 177 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 114 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 171 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 154 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 165 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 164 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 164 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 180 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 113 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 98 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 147 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 219 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 107 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 176 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 153 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 147 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 174 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 108 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 140 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 168 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 105 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 164 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 100 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 162 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 99 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 165 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 149 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 97 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 158 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 88 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 114 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 127 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 304 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 156 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 130 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 176 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 228 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 178 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 140 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 187 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 247 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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