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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Crude Steel, granite chisels require constant
> re-sharpening and tempering.
> Crude Steel, granite chisels used today in India
> are made from High Tensile, Spring Steel salvaged
> from car and truck suspension leaf springs or
> construction re-bar.
> NOT IRON
>
>
> [www.stoneproject.org]
>
> [en.wikipedia.org]

I'm still trying to understand how we know that the 6th Dynasty wrote about "Iron". What's the etiology of that translation? How can we be sure the 6th Dynasty glyphs don't just mean something more akin to "material that's harder than anything we know of today"? If we make up the name of a fictitious material with certain properties and call it "Unobtainium" and someone in the future develops a new material that actually has at least some of those properties and quaintly calls it "Unobtainium", that doesn't mean the original fictitious Unobtainium actually existed at that earlier date.

And if we are expected to take what has been translated as "iron" literally in the writings of the 6th Dynasty, then what does "Ceiling of the sky" literally refer to, and how does it literally "open"?

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 3071 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 802 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 737 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 706 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 301 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 347 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 608 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 589 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 368 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 558 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 530 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 588 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 701 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 777 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 477 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 562 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 512 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 401 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 312 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 303 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 362 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 302 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 393 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 344 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 382 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 369 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 275 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 210 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 277 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 246 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 260 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 263 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 273 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 238 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 497 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 58 Racho 20-Dec-19 20:04
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 52 Martin Stower 20-Dec-19 23:47
? 44 Racho 21-Dec-19 01:25
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 53 Open mind 21-Dec-19 02:03
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 54 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 04:19
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 56 Open mind 21-Dec-19 05:07
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 72 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 16:25
Re: Would you agree... 565 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 377 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 426 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 338 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 388 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 389 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 413 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 402 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 330 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 334 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 354 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 386 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 341 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 366 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 462 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 385 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 376 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 421 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 373 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 368 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 400 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 368 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 435 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 345 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 377 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 363 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 386 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 498 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 358 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 446 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 457 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 389 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 378 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 398 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 363 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 350 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 404 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 372 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 354 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 356 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 411 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 377 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 369 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 366 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 522 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 506 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 443 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 407 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 421 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 416 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 468 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 398 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 384 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 372 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 389 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 373 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 443 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 455 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 379 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 376 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 360 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 418 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 388 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 370 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 396 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 355 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 466 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 268 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 415 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 258 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 372 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 355 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 339 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 345 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 403 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 415 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 227 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 253 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 344 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 446 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 292 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 416 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 344 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 338 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 410 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 342 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 347 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 378 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 294 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 373 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 299 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 377 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 300 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 351 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 394 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 290 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 350 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 271 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 323 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 321 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 577 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 348 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 355 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 439 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 487 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 369 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 386 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 499 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 540 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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