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Racho Wrote:
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> I agree with you but would go on to state that you
> can't cut granite, in any meaningful way, with the
> methods proposed by the current theories.
>

Why the qualifier re meaningful?


> I'm not certain where you are at in regards to how
> you feel this was done or by whom? Do you honestly
> believe that animal horns or ancient copper tools
> had anything to do with the bulk of the work which
> was done?


Come on. The Animal Horns were not introduced as examples of Egyptian technology, so why bang on about them?

The quarrying was a yet to be agreed upon combination of impact, fire and water, and abrasion. TTBOMK

The finer work more of the same plus copper saws, adzes, drills.....a lot of time and manpower...a lot. I'm not a fool.


You believe that there was any sort of
> ancient advanced civilization that was wiped out
> Warwick?


Depends on what one means by advanced. I tend to view this aspect of the discussion from an anthropology level.

My view is to wonder at how anyone, given
> what has been presented in the past as a counter
> narrative for consideration, continues to believe
> in what is accepted currently as fact?

If I say I experience the same wonder when free associating with so many who appear, to my mind, to have so little faith in man's capabilities, that they have trouble allocating them to their forebears...would you be surprised or offended?


>
> I snicker at it to be honest and find it hard not
> to ridicule given that I'm not supposed to be
> dealing with rookie investigators...
>



So I assume then that you do not find some of my more scathing sarcasm as personally insulting as some others here do. That it is like it is with yourself an expression of your/our incredulity with the others conclusions.


> Comes across as arrogance but in reality...is
> incredulity ;) They do not carve out entire
> mountains with antlers and pounders. machines did
> this


I've been accused of online arrogance for years.

Why then should that stop us from free associating, challenging, proding and poking, whatever it takesw to get the other to appreciate where we agree and or differ?


Warwick

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 2503 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 594 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 498 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 496 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 156 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 171 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 430 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 368 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 236 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 402 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 309 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 370 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 529 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 611 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 301 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 398 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 355 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 250 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 158 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 167 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 196 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 165 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 218 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 164 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 212 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 166 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 142 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 97 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 134 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 115 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 136 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 118 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 119 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 102 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 290 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
Re: Would you agree... 367 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 246 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 285 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 210 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 253 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 226 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 252 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 249 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 188 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 200 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 215 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 248 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 206 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 228 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 296 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 238 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 214 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 253 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 228 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 233 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 259 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 219 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 256 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 215 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 237 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 227 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 210 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 335 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 192 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 316 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 293 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 245 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 249 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 212 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 206 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 205 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 262 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 217 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 216 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 220 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 264 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 234 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 217 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 217 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 347 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 339 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 281 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 252 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 270 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 208 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 270 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 247 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 227 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 230 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 251 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 230 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 268 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 251 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 237 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 211 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 211 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 267 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 231 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 230 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 250 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 193 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 284 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 134 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 260 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 149 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 228 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 223 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 216 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 213 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 241 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 254 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 131 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 118 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 200 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 281 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 140 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 250 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 214 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 205 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 253 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 163 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 196 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 222 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 155 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 226 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 141 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 218 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 143 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 212 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 225 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 135 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 202 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 130 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 163 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 172 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 398 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 210 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 210 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 267 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 312 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 236 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 218 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 269 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 349 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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