> M. J. Thomas Wrote:
> > Corpuscles Wrote:
> > > if there is one
> > > original cartouche up there then Creightons
> > theory
> > > crumbles faster than a house of cards in a
> > > hurricane!
> > I would dearly love for there to be a
> > Khufu cartouche in any one of the upper four
> > It would add greatly to my theory on how the
> > Pyramid was designed.
> > Regards,
> > Robin
> Hi Robin
> I have absolutely no intention for this post, to
> be taken in any way, as being condescending!
> However, it has occured to me that the members you
> have been conversing with overnight (my time) are
> SO knowledgeable about this subject, and also
> staggeringly gifted at hieroglyphics, that they
> might just be talking above your head a little.
> So maybe an absolute DUNCE (relatively) like me
> might help your (perhaps others) understanding a
> little? They will correct me where or if wrong.
> As you know there is the much talked about Khufu
> cartouche in Campbells Chamber (SW roof).
> Without the Lepsius alphabet.... Sieve Quail
> horned serpent Quail
> In Lady A chamber there are to my count 6
> cartouches (some partial) One of them disappears
> behind a granite roof slab ... it has the
> cartouche but only Quail Horned Serpent "fu". Now
> go looking and searching and see whether you can
> find any other king with name ending in "fu".
> After reviewing/studying intently statements made
> by G Hancock and J A West about their full day eye
> witness account of being there ( note SC and all
> of his collaborators have not been in there),
> particularly Graham,
> talks about this partial cartouche immediately
> before exclaiming that he saw hieratics continue
> deep into cracks in the masonry.
> My count is total of 12 part or full cartouches in
> the chambers. Most of them are khnum khuf.
> As you are likely aware there is at least other 5
> sites in Egypt & Sinai where again both Khufu and
> knnum Khuf are found together on stone (not
> counting kings lists where nomen "Khnum khuf"
> never appears)
> Also, the very recently found ancient papyri from
> Wadi el-Jarf has them together with his "horus"
> name too!
> Petrie even half a century after Vyse surmised
> they might have been co-regents.
> Vyse & Co only 20 years after Champollion cracked
> the bare basics of the language only had a source
> of two published works to copy from or learn a
> little bit about but they might also have crossed
> paths with the very young brilliant German
> Lepsius. Most likely relied on equally brilliant J
> G Wilkinsons first major work.
> At that stage (particularly if you look at the
> laters work the whole subject was so vague as for
> it to be impossible for gunpowder blasting nutters
> to get it all right and readable. As Merrell (or
> other) pointed out it has taken till 1990's for
> any settled understanding to emerge.
> Creighton, finally after years of arguement with
> the esteemed gentleman you have been conversing
> with finally realised this prior to publication !
> Horrah! No credit given! (Booo hiss) So he knew he
> had to find a way to get around this
> conundrum...?????.... so he invented the fantasy
> that Vyse found a secret cache of papyri that
> included all the gang names , the numbers also on
> the chambers walls ..everything and then copied
> Unbelievable!.... why?????
> Because those documents would nearly have been
> more important themselves than the find of Khufu's
> Pure figment of SC's deception (sorry if that word
> offends your sensibilities!).
> I hope that helps in some small way.
> Kindest regards
I saved this post under the heading "A Layman's Explanation".
Too Right , Mate