> > Here we have a document written by a guy
> > associated with Giza naming a 4th Dynasty
> > Khufu, as well as a 4th Dynasty vizier named
> > Ankh-haf, including such mundane things as
> > accounting ledgers, yet this is "evidence of
> > nothing" and is more reasonable to assume it
> > written "hundreds if not thousands of years"
> > by "whoever" talking about completely different
> > people and/or different times and/or may just be
> a forgery? Got it. Makes perfect sense.
> I didn't say any of that, got it?
> I think the dating of Wadi al-Jarf is
> circumstantial, not a drop of science to support
> it. It's dated by the Khufu cartouche, period.
> > "The titles of Ankh-haf and his wife,
> > Hetepheres, suggest that they are
> relatives of
> > Khufu, particularly as the Eastern Cemetery
> > consists of the burials of Khufu's family."
> Why don't they carbon date something to back up
> their suggestions?
> A house of cards waiting for a breeze.
Corp : M Stower provided information on the intention to do so. Often theseresults are not published immediately or put up on the internet
> > One of Ankh-haf's wife's titles was ""priestess
> of Snefru" in which Sneferu's cartouche is also
> found inside apart from this inscription. One of
> > Ankh-haf's titles is "eldest [king's) son of
> his body" which Flentye notes:
> > "Hetepheres' connection to Snefru could also
> > link Ankh-haf as "eldest [king's] son of his
> body" to that king, possibly as a son".
> Grasping at straws, guesswork. That's why they
> can't decide who the father was.
> > Of note, see Fig 7 p297 the Khufu cartouche
> > on a relief in the tomb of Meretites (the other
> > tomb the paper talks about) which her and her
> > husband bear the titles of "priest of Khufu"
> > "priestess of Khufu".
> Now if they only had some proof of who Khufu was.
> And don't give me that 'context' crap. The context
> was gathered after the fact to bolster
> their guesses.
> > But this isn't to nitpick over who Ankh-haf was
> > related to or not as the point is that this
> person is well attested to have existed in the
> 4th Dynasty which by any standard falls sometime
> > within the reigns of Khufu and Khafre.
> How is it well attested? What else attests it
> other than it's distance from something, which is
> no standard at all. This may be good enough for
> you, but for others it is nothing. Not a drop of
> science, only conjecture that is touted as fact.
> There really isn't anything about you that is alt.
> You continually recite the status quo and insult
> those who don't. Personally, I think Egyptology's
> standards are so low they barely exist beyond
> their pottery catalog.
Hi Audrey , associated "alt"sidekicks, and All
I note both Thanos and M Stower have gone to some trouble/effort to educate you (us all) about what is known or dervived about the papyri.
In selected sections of you reply above you harp on about the "absence of science" the "guesswork" the ori-ish "standards are so low", "grasping at straws" "proof of who Khufu was" and so on....
So, given you "alts" apparently don't stoop to such deplorble levels and have "science", you don't guess , and have "higher standards" then I am very interested in what all that amounts to?
What do you think the closer to the truth situation is? (SERIOUS ENQUIRY or questions!)
Whilst seeming to deny it above do you think the papyri are FAKE?
- Where did the blank papyrus come from how did they manufacture it and falsely age it, what science evidence have you got for that? None?
- Who was the hieropglyph & hieratic expert Eygptologist familiar with Ankh-haf and associated information that could forge it ALL to fool all (except you and Ori) and have them 6 examples displayed in airtight glass in Cairo museum?
- When do you think the authentic papyri was dated to? What is the basis of that (you know with your science without guesswork) "alt" methods?
- Do you think there was another period in AE when there was a ..Ankh-haf .. a Khufu.. and a Sneferu all existed in another era?
When was that prior to circa 2550 BCE or was it after? When exact (higher standards) time range please?
- Are you suggesting those original persons existed at a different time? If so when!!!!!????? (science!, no guesswork or low brow standards, please!) ?
Or is it you don't even have a clue, or even capable of a guess, and have no other "alt" standard than to nay say and expect all information to be made publicly available on the internet for alt experts and if it isn't it cannot exist?
How do you call yourself "alt" when you have no alternatives!?
In anticipation of some real high standards