> Cladking wrote:
> >Logic says that on a gargantuan project that a
> highly efficient means must be used.
> OK Cladking, you have been telling me they lifted
> the stones one step at a time for years. Herodotus
> said they used levers, one step at a time. I have
> tried many different designs how that could be
> done. None of them worked, until now. My latest
> Sketchup design is quick and fool prof. No water
> involved. Before I exhibit this design for
> scrutiny, do you have the passage where Herodotus
> mentioned levers. I have read that here on the
> blog, though I do not know how accurate the word
> lever is.
> I have a little more to clean up in my model. If
> you have something, please let me know. I am
> excited to show this off. No ramps. For once, it
> musta been done this way... will have some
There are various translations and interpretations of Herodotus. I don't believe he ever used the word 'lever" though many people interpret "short timbers" or short pieces of wood" as "levers". Some people interpret the "machines that can be carried to other levels" as "levers" and I have seen "levers' appear in translations.
You certainly don't need water to lift stones 80' at a time. Men hauling on ropes from the tops of these "mounds" would be very efficient. However a great deal of work is required no matter how efficient they could be unless they had water at 80' and then there would be no work at all for humans since the natural phenomenon which lifted the water to 80' would do all the work.
I believe it's within the realm of reason to hypothesize men dragged the stones straight up the side 80' at a time but that the evidence suggests this didn't happen either and that it was water that lifted them.
There would have needed to have been about 8,000 men just to pull these stones up and there's no evidence for so many. There probably would have been "Overseers of Stone Lifters" and similar such occupations that are not in evidence.
I look forward to your drawings and thinking.