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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
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> ...
> We are world's apart here.

Yes, apparently for the foreseeable future, at least on the star alignment front, so we need to agree to disagree.



> > And I'm sure you understand that if a
> > monument at the 30N latitude was intended to point
> > to the celestial north, the passage would be built
> > at a 30 degree angle and not at 26.5 with the
> > hopes of catching a brief glimpse of a nearby star
> > during its off-axis excursion.
>
> If they built it at this time and this is where
> Thuban was they would have little choice other
> than to align it this way. Also, as I said before,
> an interesting thought is this "divine angle" as
> it were was derived at Abydos/Thinis which the
> celestial pole would have been c. 26.5. And,
> again, its not a "nearby star", just "any 'ol
> star" as you keep trying to make it out to be, its
> the pole star. This is significant.

It's called the "pole star" only because it's the star that's the closest (ergo most "nearby") to the pole, but it was not aligned with the pole. In fact it wasn't even the closest to the pole at that time (not for a couple more centuries would it be the closest it would get to the north pole). So I still don't understand why the builders would be interested in Thuban at its lowest excursion at 26.5 degrees (a full 3.5 degrees off-axis) rather than focus on the celestial north pole at 30 degrees. Surely if they could calculate the cardinal points without a physically visual delineation of them, they certainly should have been able to calculate the celestial north pole without needing an "X" star to (sort of) mark the spot (and how did they measure that, exactly?). After all, G1 is only 2'28" off exact cardinal alignment. That's only 0.04 degree error which is 2 orders of magnitude higher precision than the huge 3.5 degree off-axis tolerance provided by Thuban, so it seems clear that they did not need a visual north star but, instead, were quite capable of calculating the true north pole.

So why point at Thuban only at the time of day when it's specifically at 26.5 degrees above the horizon since, in the course of a single day, it would have revolved a full 360 deg around the north pole in a circle that varies from 26.5 degrees to 33.5 degrees above the horizon. Why not pick any other angle within that excursion rather than the actual pole angle of 30 deg? By the way, a 3.5 degree off-axis error circumscribes a path that's about 1.5" in diameter measured at arm's length against the sky. That's a significant error, according to known G1 engineering precision.

In my opinion, this entire narrative clearly reveals a hypothesis in which (for reasons unknown to me) the builders would be far more interested in the position of that off-axis (by 3.5 degrees) star at a specific time of day than they were in the north pole angle. So what's so important about Thuban that they wanted to capture that position during that specific time of day when it was at that particular angle in its excursion around the north polar axis rather than just capture the north polar axis itself? And how were they able to somehow capture that star position (presumably at night), capture it mathematically or structurally such that they could spend an untold number of years constructing a passage over 100m long (presumably during the day), much of which goes into bedrock. I still need a bit more rationale to understand the motive behind that very complex engineering project before I can give it the credibility you seem to think it deserves.

Abydos is at latitude 26.18, Thinis is at 26.33; neither are at 26.5.



> > Well, that may be one logic, but then when you
> > consider that many pyramid causeways are at the
> > same 4.6 degree incline, what so you suppose is so
> > "logical to conclude" about what they are
> > pointing at?
>
> No, I don't as the causeways were set at this
> angle to achieve a certain rise and run and have
> no implied stellar function regardless. You are
> attempting to create a circular argument that if
> we apply this logic to one set therefore it must
> apply to all which depending on their function
> there is no reason to believe they were designed
> for the same purpose.
>
> And the only reason why you make these arguments
> is because once again it implies a date you do not
> want. If the LC built the pyramids hundreds of
> thousands of years ago do you not think it
> possible they too used stellar markers to align
> the pyramids and DP? Regardless of when, it seems
> obvious they did.

And once again, please stop trying to visit my intentions and just mind the words being posted. You keep insisting you know what I "want" but you do not. It is as if you are the one who "wants" me to want a different scenario, and perhaps that's because it's difficult to find the logic that would justify the star alignment scenario in the first place.

My only point is that since there are other consistent angles throughout ancient Egyptian architecture, it seems like cherry-picking to claim that one angle necessarily "points to" something in the sky while other angles do not, without providing a logical rule that discerns a reason for that discretion. I haven't seen anyone present such logic yet. In fact, we've already heard arguments regarding the possibility of a friction-related function for passage angle which has nothing to do with star alignment.



> > I hear you, and I disagree with that notion. Why
> > point at the closest star rather than the
> > celestial pole itself?
>
> Its the closest fixed point to sight a line.

But it's not a fixed point at all. An off-axis star is in constant motion as it circumscribes the north pole. It makes a complete 360 degree revolution about that pole every 24 hours. Thuban would have been a moving target during every second of every day. And considering that when Thuban may have been visible during apart od the day in 3000 BC, it would have been a full 3.5 degrees off-axis in its excursion (30N lat vs. 26.5 deg DP), that's quite a large movement for such an allegedly "fixed point". How do you think the builders were able to capture the position and angle of that "fixed point" during that specific time each day and during the many years it likely took to build that passage? Surely no one believes Thuban would have been visible as a "fixed point" in that same position in the sky during the entire construction of that 100m passage.



> > Again, many things are designed to tilt at a
> > certain angle, but that doesn't necessarily mean
> > they're all designed to "point at" something.
>
> Then you understand the point I make above about
> the causeways.

I do not. Sorry. Just because the DP is steeper than those 4.6 degree causeways does not mean it is pointing to something while the others are not. So what is the rationale that makes you believe the DP is pointing at something?



> > Aside from all those causeways at 4.6 degrees,
> > modern stairways often show a standard incline
> > between 30 and 37 degrees, so what are they
> > "pointing at"? A standard ramp for a wheelchair is
> > about 5 degrees; what's it pointing at?
> >
> > What's the GG/AP pointing at? What do the inclined
> > gabled roof blocks point at? what do the walls of
> > the pyramids point at?
> >
> > Where do you draw the line at whether something is
> > "pointing at" something vs. has an inherent
> > function that simply requires that level of incline?
>
> Like this you mean:
>

No idea what you mean by that. I see no reason to believe the incline in your diagram is necessarily intended to point to anything in particular.



> There are many aspects of the construction of G1
> in particular that are seen to encode certain
> "sacred geometry", calendrical data, earth
> measures, ect which coupled with the extreme
> precision of some aspects of its construction
> imply they did little by accident which would
> include the various angles of the shafts and
> passages. While some of this may in fact just be
> practical, again, the DP is a feature found in all
> the great pyramids, aligned in the same direction
> towards the celestial pole with roughly the same
> angle in which all are aligned to the cardinal
> points with G1 in particular being unusually
> accurate for the latter. It is more than
> coincidence or just its size and scope that G1
> inspires the imagination the way it does.
>
> > So, do you prefer Orion over Cygnus?
>
> Sorry, for what? Without even knowing what your
> point is I would automatically choose Orion
> because this is favored not just by the AE but all
> ancient cultures. Anyone can look up at the sky
> anywhere in the world and see it sticking out like
> a sore thumb so it is no wonder why ancient
> peoples would have been fascinated by it.

I'm talking about Collins' Cygnus correlation.

And I beg to differ about your take on Orion's visibility. In a very clear sky, you'd be hard pressed to see many or the most common consetllations. The sky is simply too full of stars to discern most of those constellations. You actually need a polluted sky to (even if just water vapor) to visualize them, otherwise they become too obscured with the background star noise.

If we are "worlds apart here", it's because I do not yet understand:

    ...the fixation of the builders on the star that's close to, but not quite at, the celestial north pole

    ...the fixation of the builders on the star closest to the north pole, but not at a time when the star would be the closest it would ever get to the north pole (a few hundred years into the future)

    ...the fixation on Thuban during the time of day it is in that particular angle during its 360 deg excursion around the polar axis (during which Thuban would be as high as 33.5 degrees above the horizon).

    ...the method used by the builders to capture that position at that time of day (presumably at night?)

    ...the method used by the builders for using that position (captured during night time) as a guide to construct the passage (presumably during the day)

    ...the method used by the builders to capture Thuban's position during the untold number of years required to build that passage and maintain such inexplicable precision along its 100m length from entrance to deep into bedrock.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 24-Feb-17 17:51 by Origyptian.

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a Question.. 357 Warwick 10-Feb-17 18:52
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Re: Ditch... ...horse... ...cart. 185 Origyptian 23-Feb-17 04:41
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Re: Ditch... ...horse... ...cart. 231 Origyptian 22-Feb-17 16:25
Let's all have a go 154 Warwick 22-Feb-17 17:50
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Re: Let's all have a go 265 cladking 22-Feb-17 20:22
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Re: Let's all have a go 150 Origyptian 23-Feb-17 20:00
Re: Ditch... ...horse... ...cart. 199 cladking 22-Feb-17 18:58
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Re: Ditch... ...horse... ...cart. 299 cladking 16-Feb-17 21:15
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Re: that's easy 312 cladking 06-Feb-17 21:34
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Re: that's easy 333 Graham Chase 02-Feb-17 19:03
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Re: that's easy 290 Origyptian 02-Feb-17 22:24
Re: that's easy 324 Origyptian 02-Feb-17 22:35
correction 194 Warwick 03-Feb-17 18:46
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Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 290 Origyptian 01-Feb-17 02:52
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 345 DUNE 01-Feb-17 21:05
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 260 molder 02-Feb-17 12:14
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 296 Origyptian 02-Feb-17 14:29
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 322 eyeofhorus33 02-Feb-17 19:04
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 304 Steve Clayton 02-Feb-17 20:20
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 303 eyeofhorus33 02-Feb-17 21:50
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 230 Warwick 02-Feb-17 22:07
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 288 Origyptian 02-Feb-17 23:07
twisting and turning 254 Warwick 03-Feb-17 17:52
Re: twisting and turning 385 Origyptian 04-Feb-17 02:58
Re: twisting and turning 342 Warwick 04-Feb-17 20:49
Re: twisting and turning 288 Origyptian 05-Feb-17 23:22
Re: twisting and turning 294 Martin Stower 06-Feb-17 01:54
Re: twisting and turning 316 Warwick 06-Feb-17 17:13
Re: twisting and turning 324 cladking 06-Feb-17 17:31
Re: twisting and turning 281 Warwick 06-Feb-17 17:54
From here it looks like the backstroke. 271 cladking 06-Feb-17 18:22
Re: From here it looks like the backstroke. 289 Warwick 06-Feb-17 18:28
Re: twisting and turning 289 Origyptian 06-Feb-17 19:14
More twisting nd turning 288 Warwick 06-Feb-17 19:30
Re: twisting and turning 296 Thunderbird 06-Feb-17 19:44
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 278 Origyptian 02-Feb-17 23:03
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 306 Warwick 03-Feb-17 18:36
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 300 Martin Stower 03-Feb-17 21:48
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 289 Warwick 03-Feb-17 21:56
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 309 Steve Clayton 02-Feb-17 19:22
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 369 drew 07-Feb-17 00:24
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 358 Manu 17-Feb-17 18:22
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 237 Dr. Troglodyte 18-Feb-17 21:21
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 289 Manu 18-Feb-17 21:33
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 162 Origyptian 19-Feb-17 17:41
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 184 Manu 19-Feb-17 18:21
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 269 Origyptian 19-Feb-17 19:04
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 168 Manu 19-Feb-17 20:53
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 258 Thanos5150 19-Feb-17 21:26
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 209 Manu 19-Feb-17 22:10
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 258 Thanos5150 19-Feb-17 23:53
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 252 Manu 20-Feb-17 04:55
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 283 Origyptian 20-Feb-17 15:23
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 260 Manu 20-Feb-17 16:09
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 252 Origyptian 20-Feb-17 16:51
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 185 Manu 21-Feb-17 13:44
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 330 Origyptian 21-Feb-17 15:30
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 188 Manu 21-Feb-17 16:27
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 251 Origyptian 21-Feb-17 18:03
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 294 Audrey 22-Feb-17 01:16
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 247 Thanos5150 22-Feb-17 03:51
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 295 SandyJesse 24-Feb-17 02:33
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 304 Thanos5150 20-Feb-17 20:32
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 230 Thanos5150 20-Feb-17 21:56
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 269 Warwick 20-Feb-17 22:11
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 162 cladking 20-Feb-17 22:43
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 168 Warwick 21-Feb-17 17:50
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 224 cladking 21-Feb-17 20:06
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 223 Warwick 21-Feb-17 20:25
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 233 Manu 21-Feb-17 13:55
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 157 Manu 21-Feb-17 13:50
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 178 Thanos5150 21-Feb-17 23:39
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 323 Audrey 20-Feb-17 20:54
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 202 Jon Ellison 20-Feb-17 21:53
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 166 Manu 21-Feb-17 14:00
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 252 Audrey 22-Feb-17 00:21
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 102 Jon Ellison 22-Feb-17 00:42
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 173 Jon Ellison 22-Feb-17 00:59
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 229 Thanos5150 22-Feb-17 01:46
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 170 Audrey 22-Feb-17 03:24
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 228 Thanos5150 22-Feb-17 03:44
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 253 Audrey 23-Feb-17 01:30
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 165 Thanos5150 23-Feb-17 02:31
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 300 Audrey 23-Feb-17 04:11
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 222 Thanos5150 23-Feb-17 17:28
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 214 Origyptian 23-Feb-17 04:24
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 309 Thanos5150 23-Feb-17 17:31
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 164 Warwick 23-Feb-17 18:08
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 247 Thanos5150 23-Feb-17 18:42
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 185 Jon Ellison 22-Feb-17 09:18
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 275 Audrey 22-Feb-17 18:02
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 273 Audrey 22-Feb-17 02:05
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 228 Origyptian 22-Feb-17 15:09
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 263 Audrey 23-Feb-17 01:32
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 231 Thanos5150 23-Feb-17 02:41
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 224 Origyptian 23-Feb-17 04:00
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 228 Audrey 23-Feb-17 04:17
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 304 Origyptian 23-Feb-17 04:55
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 270 Jon Ellison 23-Feb-17 11:33
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 277 Origyptian 23-Feb-17 14:22
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 257 Jon Ellison 23-Feb-17 16:48
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 190 Origyptian 23-Feb-17 16:52
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 148 Jon Ellison 23-Feb-17 17:03
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 230 Origyptian 23-Feb-17 17:13
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 214 Thanos5150 23-Feb-17 18:24
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 243 Origyptian 23-Feb-17 18:34
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 230 Warwick 23-Feb-17 18:43
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 283 Origyptian 23-Feb-17 19:52
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 252 Thanos5150 23-Feb-17 20:14
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 261 Thanos5150 23-Feb-17 20:57
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 218 Origyptian 23-Feb-17 21:05
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 152 Thanos5150 23-Feb-17 21:56
a really awesome post 247 Warwick 24-Feb-17 17:21
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 178 Warwick 24-Feb-17 17:30
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 198 Origyptian 24-Feb-17 19:07
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 235 Thanos5150 23-Feb-17 19:56
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 178 Origyptian 23-Feb-17 20:50
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 262 Thanos5150 23-Feb-17 17:09
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 243 Origyptian 23-Feb-17 18:19
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 238 Thanos5150 23-Feb-17 19:07
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 311 Origyptian 23-Feb-17 20:31
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 259 Thanos5150 23-Feb-17 21:47
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 248 Origyptian 24-Feb-17 17:20
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 314 Thanos5150 24-Feb-17 20:41
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 299 Thanos5150 24-Feb-17 21:04
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 237 Origyptian 24-Feb-17 21:25
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 243 Thanos5150 25-Feb-17 01:25
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 299 Origyptian 24-Feb-17 21:13
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 369 Thanos5150 24-Feb-17 21:54
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 260 Origyptian 24-Feb-17 22:07
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 239 Thanos5150 25-Feb-17 01:40
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 301 Audrey 25-Feb-17 19:54
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 433 Origyptian 25-Feb-17 21:30
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 401 Audrey 25-Feb-17 16:49
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 442 Thanos5150 25-Feb-17 18:09
I see all the stars. ;) 214 cladking 25-Feb-17 18:17
quote of the month 309 Warwick 24-Feb-17 17:41
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 258 Origyptian 20-Feb-17 03:09
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 191 Thanos5150 20-Feb-17 04:26
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 300 Thanos5150 20-Feb-17 05:08
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 287 Origyptian 20-Feb-17 14:53
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 263 Thanos5150 20-Feb-17 22:28
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 210 Warwick 20-Feb-17 22:44
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 263 Origyptian 20-Feb-17 22:57
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 426 Thanos5150 20-Feb-17 23:40
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 311 Warwick 21-Feb-17 18:47
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 307 cladking 21-Feb-17 19:56
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 271 Warwick 21-Feb-17 20:32
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 287 cladking 21-Feb-17 21:36
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 244 Thanos5150 22-Feb-17 03:31
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 176 Warwick 22-Feb-17 17:37
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 231 Origyptian 22-Feb-17 18:32
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 235 Warwick 22-Feb-17 18:39
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 202 Origyptian 22-Feb-17 19:15
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 365 Thanos5150 22-Feb-17 21:19
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 425 Thanos5150 23-Feb-17 22:31
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 259 Warwick 24-Feb-17 18:00
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 264 Thanos5150 24-Feb-17 19:37
Re: Equinoctial Pyramid Alignment 165 Origyptian 24-Feb-17 20:28
Angle, Orientation, time of year 263 Warwick 20-Feb-17 18:37
Re: Angle, Orientation, time of year 246 Thanos5150 20-Feb-17 23:14
Re: Angle, Orientation, time of year 168 Warwick 21-Feb-17 18:15
Re: Angle, Orientation, time of year 286 Thanos5150 22-Feb-17 03:07
Re: Angle, Orientation, time of year 312 Origyptian 22-Feb-17 05:00
Re: Angle, Orientation, time of year 306 Spiros 25-Feb-17 01:17


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