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Steve Clayton Wrote:
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> Dr. Trog
> Dr. Troglodyte ​wrote
> Date: April 03, 2018 07:08PM
> ​>​Hello Steve Clayton; you wrote: ”…The
> average mans weight is approx. 185 to 200
> lbs…”
>
> ​>​This statement references no informed
> source for the above assumption. Studies* indicate
> the body mass mean for “Non-elite”
> ​>​>males at Giza during the Old Kingdom to be
> 62.2 kg (132.72 lbs), a negative difference of
> nearly 60 pounds [average] per
> ​>​>constructor.
>
> ​>​Calculations influenced by the posted
> information are approximately 31% in error.
>
> ​>​*Egyptian Body Size: A Regional and
> Worldwide Comparison, Michelle H. Raxter,
> University of South Florida, 2011
>
>
>
> ​Hello ​Dr. Troglodyte​,
>
> I am happy to have you chime in. The exercise is,
> to see how practical using an (shaduf) inverted
> lever​, is when attempting to lift an average
> Pyramid stone. As the stone is 5,000lbs. (2.5
> tons) and the poll is 20 ft. long. The fulcrum
> point is at 75 percent. As you can see in the
> drawing below, converted to inches, it requires
> 1,666 lbs. to reach equilibrium. Using your
> ancient Egyptians @ 133 lbs., it would require
> 12.5 men hanging from the rope. Correct me if I am
> wrong, the Pyramid steps are only 2.5 - 3.0 feet
> wide. Placing a counterweight on one end, as used
> in a Shaduf, is impracticable, as you will need to
> lift that counterweight, using the opposite end.
> The levers mechanical advantage is now working
> against you.
>
> Possibly, there is some other method or
> combination, which would work better? If you only
> have 2.5 feet on on end, it drops down to 5 men.
> Still, you need to control the lift. The pole is
>
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Hello Steve Clayton:

Here, specifically, a number of erroneous assumptions regarding the ”means and methods” have been made. Petrie (Corrected Great Pyramid Course Elevations and Plate 8) illustrates the largest course of the Great Pyramid, above the base courses, is the 35th (+/- 49.5 inches thick average). This course represents approximately 50% of the stone required for the entire Pyramid’s construction. Likely to this level earthen and mud brick ramps were utilized to maneuver (‘lift’) the bulk of the large core and casing stones.

Above the 35th course, the majority of the stone units are approximately one (1) cubit high [Petrie] and weigh approximately one (1) ton [see Smith’s ratio, h:w:l = 1.0:1.33:2.0 cubits]; approximately 45.77% less than the speculated 5,000 pounds above (”…5,000lbs. (2.5 tons)…” The employment of ‘Shadfu crews’ (assuming the application) would have been most productive above this level.

Regarding these proposed Shadfu crews, the presumption of a single crew, of any size, is lacking; as is the area of the necessary staging zones (”…steps…only 2.5 - 3.0 feet wide…”). Two (2), perhaps four (4), crews (working on two levels of +/- 1 cubit apart vertically) could potentially operate independent machines on a single stone, simultaneously. Staging zones, placed strategically, would enable transportation at numerous locations on the structure.

Dr. Troglodyte

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Pyramid Construction 8112 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 06:05
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 1183 M. J. Thomas 11-Dec-16 11:10
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 1078 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 1001 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 970 Jon Ellison 11-Dec-16 12:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 984 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 998 DScribr 11-Dec-16 14:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 913 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 18:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 889 Lee McGiffen 16-Dec-16 10:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 1014 DUNE 16-Dec-16 12:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 807 DUNE 16-Dec-16 14:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 935 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 820 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 930 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 859 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 860 sfbey 11-Dec-16 17:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 848 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 712 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 963 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 791 Warwick 11-Dec-16 20:56
Block Construction 860 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:23
Re: Block Construction 862 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:35
Re: Block Construction 877 randompHactor 11-Dec-16 21:53
Re: Block Construction 878 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 910 loveritas 11-Dec-16 22:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 874 DScribr 11-Dec-16 23:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 822 loveritas 12-Dec-16 01:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 989 DScribr 12-Dec-16 14:31
More Sand 854 loveritas 12-Dec-16 22:11
Re: More Sand 820 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:19
Re: More Sand 844 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 00:15
Re: More Sand 837 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:25
Re: More Sand 848 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:03
Re: More Sand 840 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 01:19
Where is the Sand 860 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:00
Re: Where is the Sand 857 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:15
Re: Where is the Sand 868 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:34
Re: More Sand 899 Audrey 13-Dec-16 03:50
Re: More Sand 828 cladking 13-Dec-16 04:43
Re: More Sand 894 Audrey 13-Dec-16 04:55
Re: More Sand 929 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 11:40
Re: More Sand 940 Audrey 14-Dec-16 02:43
Re: More Sand 941 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 10:39
Re: More Sand 870 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:19
Re: More Sand 868 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:03
Re: More Sand 839 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:19
Re: More Sand 913 Audrey 15-Dec-16 05:40
Re: More Sand 867 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 09:50
Re: More Sand 771 DUNE 15-Dec-16 11:35
Re: More Sand 883 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 12:38
Re: More Sand 847 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:10
Re: More Sand 833 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 14:52
Re: More Sand 794 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 14:33
Re: More Sand 773 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:17
Re: More Sand 824 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:35
Re: More Sand 785 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:45
Re: More Sand 862 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 16:02
Re: More Sand 902 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 16:25
Re: More Sand 833 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:00
Re: More Sand 709 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:20
Re: More Sand 831 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:38
Re: More Sand 803 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:48
Re: More Sand 835 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:27
Re: More Sand 793 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 14:41
Re: More Sand 819 DUNE 16-Dec-16 15:38
Re: More Sand 786 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 17:02
Re: More Sand 911 DUNE 16-Dec-16 17:15
Re: More Sand 943 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:12
Re: More Sand 777 DUNE 16-Dec-16 20:04
Re: More Sand 871 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 17:01
Re: More Sand 791 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:33
Chisel Marks Suggest..... 827 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:20
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 851 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:41
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 771 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:49
Re: More Sand 776 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:17
Re: More Sand 800 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 11:43
Popular Posters 1074 loveritas 14-Dec-16 10:57
Re: Popular Posters 1003 M. J. Thomas 14-Dec-16 13:52
Re: Popular Posters 806 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:18
Presumption Correction 1102 loveritas 13-Dec-16 06:35
Re: Presumption Correction 898 Audrey 13-Dec-16 06:38
Re: More Sand 889 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 07:17
Re: More Sand 827 cladking 13-Dec-16 14:46
Re: More Sand 866 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 18:07
Re: More Sand 771 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 19:07
Re: More Sand 900 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:19
Re: More Sand 853 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 02:34
Re: More Sand 886 cladking 14-Dec-16 03:41
Re: More Sand 827 Thanos5150 15-Dec-16 17:39
Re: More Sand 863 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:16
Re: More Sand 778 Audrey 14-Dec-16 03:31
GOT Sand??? 838 DScribr 14-Dec-16 04:06
Re: GOT Sand??? 885 Audrey 14-Dec-16 04:36
Re: GOT brains??? 1080 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:16
Re: GOT Sand??? 946 cladking 14-Dec-16 04:51
Who Ya' Gonna Call? 859 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:51
Re: More Sand 877 loveritas 13-Dec-16 01:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 770 Steve Clayton 11-Dec-16 23:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 747 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 00:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 861 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 807 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 830 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 1148 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 874 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 764 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 19:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 826 M. J. Thomas 12-Dec-16 11:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 838 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 17:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 846 M. J. Thomas 13-Dec-16 01:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 812 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 1431 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 18:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 797 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 18:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 861 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 953 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 813 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 788 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 815 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 17:31
Houdin's most critical error 937 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:17
Re: Houdin's most critical error 822 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 18:52
Re: Houdin's most critical error 887 Warwick 14-Dec-16 19:14
Re: Houdin's most critical error 792 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 21:07
the \$64,000.00 Question 858 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:35
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question 757 DScribr 16-Dec-16 21:03
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question 793 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:03
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question 853 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:23
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question 781 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:43
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question 802 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 23:07
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 778 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 11:24
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 851 DUNE 18-Dec-16 12:14
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 766 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 17:05
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 845 DUNE 18-Dec-16 17:51
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 733 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:47
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 696 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 19:41
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 738 DUNE 19-Dec-16 21:29
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 662 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 22:47
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 840 DUNE 19-Dec-16 23:21
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 700 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:56
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 890 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 14:53
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 720 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:17
Where are the Taxonomies? 771 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: Where are the Taxonomies? 785 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:33
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 716 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 772 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:43
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 817 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:58
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 786 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:44
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 643 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 17:33
In A Cemetery 793 DScribr 18-Dec-16 20:06
Re: In A Cemetery 777 cladking 18-Dec-16 20:11
Re: In A Cemetery 805 DScribr 18-Dec-16 22:59
Re: In A Cemetery 736 cladking 19-Dec-16 00:52
Re: In A Cemetery 789 DScribr 19-Dec-16 01:32
Re: In A Cemetery 681 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:52
Re: In A Cemetery 799 DScribr 19-Dec-16 03:54
Re: In A Cemetery 833 Thanos5150 19-Dec-16 04:44
Re: In A Cemetery 723 M. J. Thomas 19-Dec-16 17:53
Re: In A Cemetery 717 cladking 19-Dec-16 17:59
Re: In A Cemetery 734 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 18:13
Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 779 DScribr 20-Dec-16 03:50
Re: Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 736 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:34
Re: In A Cemetery 760 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:23
Re: In A Cemetery 729 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:28
Re: In A Cemetery 711 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:52
Re: In A Cemetery 680 Corpuscles 20-Dec-16 11:58
Re: In A Cemetery 674 DUNE 20-Dec-16 15:06
Re: In A Cemetery 917 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:42
Re: In A Cemetery 763 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:49
Re: In A Cemetery 715 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 16:31
Re: In A Cemetery 653 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 16:49
Re: In A Cemetery 710 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:11
Re: In A Cemetery 710 cladking 20-Dec-16 19:46
Re: In A Cemetery 697 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 20:51
Re: In A Cemetery 729 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:56
Re: In A Cemetery 781 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:09
Re: In A Cemetery 694 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 698 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
Re: In A Cemetery 682 Warwick 21-Dec-16 23:01
Re: In A Cemetery 757 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:28
Re: In A Cemetery 763 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:07
Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 736 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 688 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
Re: He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 595 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:35
Re: In A Cemetery 765 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 633 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 778 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 786 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 949 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 791 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 744 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 765 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 737 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 771 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 910 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
Re: In A Cemetery 986 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:01
Re: In A Cemetery 947 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 733 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 647 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 697 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 1001 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 873 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 744 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 876 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
Re: In A Cemetery 701 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
Re: In A Cemetery 763 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:49
Re: In A Cemetery 803 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
Re: In A Cemetery 757 cladking 21-Dec-16 14:44
Re: In A Cemetery 524 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-18 20:42
Re: In A Cemetery 667 DScribr 19-Dec-16 23:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 793 Sirius7237 14-Dec-16 23:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 875 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 729 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 03:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 939 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 04:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 830 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 871 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 15:35
Animal Fat for Lube?!? 826 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
Re: Animal Fat for Lube?!? 786 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 17:26
Re: Animal Fat reduces Friction-That's A Fact! 790 DScribr 15-Dec-16 20:13
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 793 Sirius7237 17-Dec-16 22:09
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 774 Steve Clayton 19-Dec-16 02:03
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 929 Sirius7237 19-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 736 Steve Clayton 20-Dec-16 17:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 628 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 727 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 806 cladking 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 756 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 768 cladking 12-Dec-16 15:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 788 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 948 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 933 cladking 12-Dec-16 02:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 756 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
Re: Accretion Layers 762 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 02:14
Re: G3 Exposed 1007 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 03:53
Re: G3 Exposed 976 loveritas 12-Dec-16 04:44
Re: G3 Exposed 738 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:15
Re: G3 Exposed 1080 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:39
Re: G3 Exposed 832 loveritas 12-Dec-16 06:17
Re: G3 Exposed 776 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:40
Re: G3 Exposed 738 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 1117 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 04:02
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 886 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:12
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 816 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:21
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 793 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:38
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 1254 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 880 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 729 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 727 DScribr 12-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 872 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 820 cladking 12-Dec-16 18:32
Re: Pyramid Construction 750 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 780 cladking 12-Dec-16 19:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 767 Warwick 12-Dec-16 19:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 709 cladking 12-Dec-16 20:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 777 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 730 cladking 13-Dec-16 20:29
NO 729 Warwick 13-Dec-16 21:54
Re: Pyramid Construction 761 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 764 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 988 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 720 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 864 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 717 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 766 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 775 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 851 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 784 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 668 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 767 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:13
Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 804 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:06
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction-Webster's is not...... 799 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 694 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 766 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 707 Warwick 14-Dec-16 20:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 731 cladking 14-Dec-16 20:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 723 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:39
Re: Pyramid Construction 821 cladking 15-Dec-16 01:48
correction 674 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:30
Re: correction 822 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:49
Re: correction 725 Warwick 16-Dec-16 20:05
Re: correction 692 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 20:27
Re: correction 694 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:10
Re: correction 702 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:50
NONE 627 DScribr 16-Dec-16 22:59
Re: correction 725 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:53
Re: 21st Century Westerner v 4th Dyn. Ancient Egyptian 874 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 23:28
Re: correction 730 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 16:20
Re: correction 735 DocKnowles 22-Dec-16 20:22
Re: correction 728 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 21:00
Re: correction 748 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 06:43
Re: correction 694 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 07:43
Re: correction 690 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 10:44
Re: correction 671 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 12:06
Re: correction 686 cladking 23-Dec-16 14:26
Re: correction 706 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 15:41
Re: correction 757 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:13
Re: correction 634 Origyptian 23-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 618 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:31
Re: correction 726 Thanos5150 23-Dec-16 17:39
Re: correction 718 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 08:13
Re: correction 690 cladking 24-Dec-16 15:18
Re: correction 843 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 16:49
Re: correction 693 cladking 24-Dec-16 17:24
Re: correction 691 Thanos5150 24-Dec-16 16:52
Re: correction 744 Origyptian 24-Dec-16 18:12
Re: correction 739 Martin Stower 24-Dec-16 23:42
Re: correction 1005 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 00:51
Re: correction 738 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 01:03
Re: correction 828 DUNE 27-Dec-16 18:09
Re: correction 819 DUNE 30-Dec-16 21:16
Re: correction 796 Thanos5150 30-Dec-16 23:58
Re: correction 931 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-16 07:38
Re: correction 681 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 14:44
Re: correction 703 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 698 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 678 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 687 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 814 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 693 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 885 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 722 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 725 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 673 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 641 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 663 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 760 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 947 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 742 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 747 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 786 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 767 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 685 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 787 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Re: Egypto-illogic. 673 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 747 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 691 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 696 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 784 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 599 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 716 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 756 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 670 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 633 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 720 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 719 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 661 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 721 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 655 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 651 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 748 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 538 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 724 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 751 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 702 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 784 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 641 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 692 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 681 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 771 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 712 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 969 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 772 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 745 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 606 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 734 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 636 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 1100 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 710 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 720 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 747 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 862 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 758 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 730 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 731 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 748 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 809 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 714 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 895 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 852 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 769 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 797 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 771 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
thank you for the opportunity 775 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 784 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 756 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 781 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 775 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 824 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 762 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 810 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 835 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 715 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 685 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 502 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 594 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 731 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 518 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 580 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 576 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 633 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 536 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 508 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 516 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 492 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 486 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 505 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 620 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 517 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 519 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 526 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 594 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 541 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 527 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 489 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 510 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 502 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 496 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 511 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 659 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 517 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 530 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 569 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 472 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 531 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 579 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 497 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 546 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 539 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 592 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 535 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 515 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 594 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 549 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 512 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 547 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 575 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 733 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 585 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 492 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 619 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 521 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 483 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 533 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 536 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 485 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 556 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 507 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 509 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 515 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 577 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 543 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 601 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 556 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 531 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 569 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 557 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 556 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 506 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 559 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 544 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 563 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 514 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 523 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 738 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 507 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 534 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 479 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 524 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 559 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 615 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 519 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 543 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 535 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 536 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 536 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 649 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 619 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 525 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 550 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 555 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 618 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 588 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 532 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 577 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 560 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 529 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 563 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 516 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 486 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 553 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 553 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 490 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 492 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 586 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 603 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 572 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 535 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 539 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 555 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 624 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 619 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 480 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 502 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 509 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 569 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 557 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 505 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 514 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 531 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 525 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 555 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 722 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 658 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 521 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 530 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 536 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 714 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 716 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 516 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 574 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 510 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 534 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 582 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 515 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 507 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 590 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 573 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 536 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 524 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 545 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 535 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 611 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 542 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 672 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 516 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 502 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 608 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 501 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 502 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 522 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 575 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 469 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 507 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 491 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 543 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 471 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 546 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 462 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 505 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:22
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 524 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 19:15