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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Thanks. Now I think I see your point. The
> disconnect I see is that a "step" pyramid doesn't
> require a central "core tower" structure and vice
> versa. Djoser is a step but not a core tower
> pyramid.

The long standing idea is that Djoser's pyramid began as a mastaba and was enlarged and made into a stepped pyramid then enlarged again.

Looking at this model, if you remove the dotted accretion layer lines from above the mastaba within the first pyrmaid phase it is easy to see a structure eerily similar to what is found at Meidum. I assume this model was made by Lauer, but looking at the models made there are assumptions made based on the accretion layer model, yet at the center of these is a tower in which the layers are placed against. How are we to know the mastaba was not raised as tall as it practically could be, a tower, then the steps added around the structure like Meidum? Has it ever been verified the first pyrmaid was not actually a tower or is this just assumed? And these steps don't exactly inspire structural confidence that it was actually built step upon step as it is clearly separated from the layer behind it in some places:


> That satellite strikes me as a two or
> three step pyramid but not a core tower structure,
> and the other satellites show less hint of a core
> tower design, despite their state of disrepair.

I see a tower with a step built around it. Meidum bears this out:

Steps added around the tower core:


> A
> central core tower requires a 'seed within the
> fruit' perimeter which have not been identifed in
> all OK pyramids (afaik).

Please clarify.

> You say that all of the major pyramids with the
> internals sufficiently exposed show a central core
> tower design.
> I think it's interesting that not
> all OK pyramids' outer skins have collapsed, so
> perhaps the remaining pyramids that have not
> collapsed or degraded to reveal such internal core
> tower construction are still standing relatively
> intact because the builders opted
> for a strictly horizontal, and not core tower,
> design for those pyramids?

Possible, however, it does in fact appear G3 was built around a tower core. I think it is more likely the pyramids of Dahshur and Giza are just better made. If the Arabs didn't make the gash we wouldn't know what the core was of G3.

> And to be clear, I have no vested interest in
> whether any or all of them have the core tower
> design. In fact, such a design better supports
> adaption which I do strongly support, based on the
> physical evidence. It's just that I don't see the
> data as compelling for the core tower design being
> as widespread as you're suggesting.

Whether one wants to call them "stepped cores" or "tower cores", as I have shown in pictures, and Rigano verifies, what we have is every pyramid that is exposed and not a pile of rubble has a tower/stepped core.

> But assuming for the moment that most, if not all,
> of them do indeed have the core tower feature,
> what do you make of that? What are the
> implications to you if that were true?

As I have argued it raises the possibility some of these cores were made as stand alone structures and later converted to pyramids. Maybe many were originally made this way and later converted. The core at Meidum says to me it was made that way as a finished product and at some point later converted to a pyramid. This is obviously the best example. Petrie believed the pyramid layer of G3 was built over a pre-existing structure, which appears to be a tower core, that I have tried to bolster this case. The pyramids of Egypt aren't just building shapes, they are an ideology which at some point it is clear this ideology changed from one to the other. Maybe they first started building towers which when this ideology changed they converted them to pyramids and built new ones around this model.

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Pyramid Construction 6339 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 06:05
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 807 M. J. Thomas 11-Dec-16 11:10
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 759 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 699 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 674 Jon Ellison 11-Dec-16 12:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 638 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 570 DScribr 11-Dec-16 14:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 635 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 18:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 596 Lee McGiffen 16-Dec-16 10:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 557 DUNE 16-Dec-16 12:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 506 DUNE 16-Dec-16 14:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 626 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 555 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 651 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 599 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 577 sfbey 11-Dec-16 17:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 593 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 442 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 631 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 515 Warwick 11-Dec-16 20:56
Block Construction 553 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:23
Re: Block Construction 579 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:35
Re: Block Construction 579 randompHactor 11-Dec-16 21:53
Re: Block Construction 532 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 591 loveritas 11-Dec-16 22:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 572 DScribr 11-Dec-16 23:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 561 loveritas 12-Dec-16 01:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 570 DScribr 12-Dec-16 14:31
More Sand 578 loveritas 12-Dec-16 22:11
Re: More Sand 557 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:19
Re: More Sand 577 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 00:15
Re: More Sand 545 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:25
Re: More Sand 544 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:03
Re: More Sand 559 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 01:19
Where is the Sand 593 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:00
Re: Where is the Sand 562 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:15
Re: Where is the Sand 579 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:34
Re: More Sand 604 Audrey 13-Dec-16 03:50
Re: More Sand 553 cladking 13-Dec-16 04:43
Re: More Sand 601 Audrey 13-Dec-16 04:55
Re: More Sand 643 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 11:40
Re: More Sand 648 Audrey 14-Dec-16 02:43
Re: More Sand 657 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 10:39
Re: More Sand 564 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:19
Re: More Sand 591 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:03
Re: More Sand 525 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:19
Re: More Sand 602 Audrey 15-Dec-16 05:40
Re: More Sand 520 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 09:50
Re: More Sand 504 DUNE 15-Dec-16 11:35
Re: More Sand 519 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 12:38
Re: More Sand 538 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:10
Re: More Sand 560 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 14:52
Re: More Sand 520 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 14:33
Re: More Sand 488 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:17
Re: More Sand 517 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:35
Re: More Sand 500 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:45
Re: More Sand 554 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 16:02
Re: More Sand 514 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 16:25
Re: More Sand 457 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:00
Re: More Sand 405 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:20
Re: More Sand 543 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:38
Re: More Sand 519 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:48
Re: More Sand 559 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:27
Re: More Sand 501 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 14:41
Re: More Sand 575 DUNE 16-Dec-16 15:38
Re: More Sand 458 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 17:02
Re: More Sand 612 DUNE 16-Dec-16 17:15
Re: More Sand 533 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:12
Re: More Sand 527 DUNE 16-Dec-16 20:04
Re: More Sand 572 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 17:01
Re: More Sand 438 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:33
Chisel Marks Suggest..... 512 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:20
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 569 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:41
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 500 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:49
Re: More Sand 489 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:17
Re: More Sand 536 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 11:43
Popular Posters 601 loveritas 14-Dec-16 10:57
Re: Popular Posters 644 M. J. Thomas 14-Dec-16 13:52
Re: Popular Posters 528 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:18
Presumption Correction 638 loveritas 13-Dec-16 06:35
Re: Presumption Correction 598 Audrey 13-Dec-16 06:38
Re: More Sand 621 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 07:17
Re: More Sand 518 cladking 13-Dec-16 14:46
Re: More Sand 588 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 18:07
Re: More Sand 500 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 19:07
Re: More Sand 564 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:19
Re: More Sand 538 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 02:34
Re: More Sand 578 cladking 14-Dec-16 03:41
Re: More Sand 514 Thanos5150 15-Dec-16 17:39
Re: More Sand 577 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:16
Re: More Sand 520 Audrey 14-Dec-16 03:31
GOT Sand??? 572 DScribr 14-Dec-16 04:06
Re: GOT Sand??? 560 Audrey 14-Dec-16 04:36
Re: GOT brains??? 557 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:16
Re: GOT Sand??? 628 cladking 14-Dec-16 04:51
Who Ya' Gonna Call? 582 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:51
Re: More Sand 455 loveritas 13-Dec-16 01:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 506 Steve Clayton 11-Dec-16 23:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 493 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 00:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 570 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 528 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 534 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 713 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 555 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 507 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 19:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 555 M. J. Thomas 12-Dec-16 11:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 520 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 17:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 543 M. J. Thomas 13-Dec-16 01:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 526 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 599 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 18:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 511 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 18:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 579 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 560 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 523 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 519 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 544 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 17:31
Houdin's most critical error 600 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:17
Re: Houdin's most critical error 498 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 18:52
Re: Houdin's most critical error 577 Warwick 14-Dec-16 19:14
Re: Houdin's most critical error 495 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 21:07
the $64,000.00 Question 549 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:35
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 488 DScribr 16-Dec-16 21:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 542 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 551 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:23
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 524 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 539 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 23:07
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 519 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 11:24
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 558 DUNE 18-Dec-16 12:14
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 515 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 17:05
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 589 DUNE 18-Dec-16 17:51
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 482 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 443 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 19:41
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 473 DUNE 19-Dec-16 21:29
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 425 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 22:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 524 DUNE 19-Dec-16 23:21
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 453 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:56
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 520 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 14:53
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 470 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:17
Where are the Taxonomies? 472 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: Where are the Taxonomies? 500 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:33
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 455 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 499 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 497 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:58
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 506 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:44
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 394 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 17:33
In A Cemetery 493 DScribr 18-Dec-16 20:06
Re: In A Cemetery 492 cladking 18-Dec-16 20:11
Re: In A Cemetery 484 DScribr 18-Dec-16 22:59
Re: In A Cemetery 484 cladking 19-Dec-16 00:52
Re: In A Cemetery 501 DScribr 19-Dec-16 01:32
Re: In A Cemetery 409 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:52
Re: In A Cemetery 513 DScribr 19-Dec-16 03:54
Re: In A Cemetery 556 Thanos5150 19-Dec-16 04:44
Re: In A Cemetery 462 M. J. Thomas 19-Dec-16 17:53
Re: In A Cemetery 464 cladking 19-Dec-16 17:59
Re: In A Cemetery 473 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 18:13
Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 488 DScribr 20-Dec-16 03:50
Re: Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 484 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:34
Re: In A Cemetery 501 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:23
Re: In A Cemetery 456 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:28
Re: In A Cemetery 455 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:52
Re: In A Cemetery 426 Corpuscles 20-Dec-16 11:58
Re: In A Cemetery 418 DUNE 20-Dec-16 15:06
Re: In A Cemetery 461 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:42
Re: In A Cemetery 493 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:49
Re: In A Cemetery 449 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 16:31
Re: In A Cemetery 408 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 16:49
Re: In A Cemetery 468 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:11
Re: In A Cemetery 450 cladking 20-Dec-16 19:46
Re: In A Cemetery 444 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 20:51
Re: In A Cemetery 461 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:56
Re: In A Cemetery 520 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:09
Re: In A Cemetery 447 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 432 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
Re: In A Cemetery 435 Warwick 21-Dec-16 23:01
Re: In A Cemetery 513 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:28
Re: In A Cemetery 427 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:07
Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 483 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 409 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
Re: He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 361 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:35
Re: In A Cemetery 522 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 384 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 499 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 495 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 517 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 523 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 476 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 518 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 485 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 515 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 510 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
Re: In A Cemetery 573 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:01
Re: In A Cemetery 536 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 487 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 396 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 427 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 550 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 519 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 479 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 582 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
Re: In A Cemetery 472 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
Re: In A Cemetery 479 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:49
Re: In A Cemetery 478 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
Re: In A Cemetery 486 cladking 21-Dec-16 14:44
Re: In A Cemetery 249 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-18 20:42
Re: In A Cemetery 395 DScribr 19-Dec-16 23:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 545 Sirius7237 14-Dec-16 23:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 582 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 469 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 03:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 541 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 04:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 509 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 547 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 15:35
Animal Fat for Lube?!? 532 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
Re: Animal Fat for Lube?!? 505 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 17:26
Re: Animal Fat reduces Friction-That's A Fact! 524 DScribr 15-Dec-16 20:13
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 500 Sirius7237 17-Dec-16 22:09
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 528 Steve Clayton 19-Dec-16 02:03
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 675 Sirius7237 19-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 472 Steve Clayton 20-Dec-16 17:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 378 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 484 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 531 cladking 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 512 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 500 cladking 12-Dec-16 15:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 512 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 520 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 502 cladking 12-Dec-16 02:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 484 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
Re: Accretion Layers 466 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 02:14
Re: G3 Exposed 620 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 03:53
Re: G3 Exposed 566 loveritas 12-Dec-16 04:44
Re: G3 Exposed 503 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:15
Re: G3 Exposed 676 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:39
Re: G3 Exposed 560 loveritas 12-Dec-16 06:17
Re: G3 Exposed 459 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:40
Re: G3 Exposed 489 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 628 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 04:02
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 523 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:12
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 539 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:21
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 551 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:38
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 674 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 540 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 456 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 482 DScribr 12-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 504 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 464 cladking 12-Dec-16 18:32
Re: Pyramid Construction 498 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 531 cladking 12-Dec-16 19:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 491 Warwick 12-Dec-16 19:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 438 cladking 12-Dec-16 20:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 479 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 472 cladking 13-Dec-16 20:29
NO 452 Warwick 13-Dec-16 21:54
Re: Pyramid Construction 495 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 514 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 502 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 468 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 536 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 459 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 495 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 516 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 528 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 535 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 421 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 499 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:13
Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 556 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:06
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 502 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:27
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction-Webster's is not...... 506 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 446 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 482 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 468 Warwick 14-Dec-16 20:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 480 cladking 14-Dec-16 20:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 478 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:39
Re: Pyramid Construction 550 cladking 15-Dec-16 01:48
correction 389 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:30
Re: correction 496 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:49
Re: correction 455 Warwick 16-Dec-16 20:05
Re: correction 439 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 20:27
Re: correction 450 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:10
Re: correction 468 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:50
NONE 340 DScribr 16-Dec-16 22:59
Re: correction 453 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:53
Re: 21st Century Westerner v 4th Dyn. Ancient Egyptian 465 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 23:28
Re: correction 489 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 16:20
Re: correction 415 DocKnowles 22-Dec-16 20:22
Re: correction 466 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 21:00
Re: correction 505 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 06:43
Re: correction 447 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 07:43
Re: correction 427 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 10:44
Re: correction 417 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 12:06
Re: correction 442 cladking 23-Dec-16 14:26
Re: correction 450 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 15:41
Re: correction 475 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:13
Re: correction 371 Origyptian 23-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 351 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:31
Re: correction 487 Thanos5150 23-Dec-16 17:39
Re: correction 470 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 08:13
Re: correction 453 cladking 24-Dec-16 15:18
Re: correction 482 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 16:49
Re: correction 421 cladking 24-Dec-16 17:24
Re: correction 411 Thanos5150 24-Dec-16 16:52
Re: correction 396 Origyptian 24-Dec-16 18:12
Re: correction 475 Martin Stower 24-Dec-16 23:42
Re: correction 481 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 00:51
Re: correction 458 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 01:03
Re: correction 579 DUNE 27-Dec-16 18:09
Re: correction 554 DUNE 30-Dec-16 21:16
Re: correction 504 Thanos5150 30-Dec-16 23:58
Re: correction 655 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-16 07:38
Re: correction 417 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 14:44
Re: correction 402 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 420 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 419 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 420 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 576 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 453 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 572 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 425 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 456 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 415 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 368 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 419 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 490 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 408 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 493 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 473 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 482 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 490 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 420 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 500 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 384 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 424 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 461 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 449 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 428 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 485 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 340 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 455 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 433 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 419 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 378 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 411 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 430 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 397 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 451 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 385 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 411 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 468 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 286 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 438 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 491 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 448 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 487 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 370 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 425 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 424 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 475 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 433 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 473 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 491 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 454 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 365 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 463 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 378 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 472 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 446 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 423 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 487 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 600 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 478 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 482 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 477 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 469 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 514 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 404 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 504 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 541 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 489 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 514 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 494 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 482 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 401 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 500 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 519 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 504 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 508 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 524 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 557 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 528 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 564 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 571 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 468 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 387 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 259 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 301 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 299 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 251 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 302 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 308 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 357 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 269 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 258 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 250 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 252 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 224 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 243 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 317 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 259 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 261 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 263 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 298 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 259 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 254 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 228 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 255 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 243 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 241 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 247 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 237 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 241 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 229 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 285 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 232 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 260 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 262 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 254 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 270 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 291 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 262 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 271 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 267 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 289 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 286 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 260 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 292 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 283 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 283 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 293 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 237 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 258 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 250 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 237 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 264 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 260 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 240 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 271 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 264 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 267 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 256 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 295 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 284 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 242 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 270 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 259 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 282 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 281 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 273 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 260 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 269 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 260 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 267 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 268 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 257 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 261 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 263 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 262 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 243 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 265 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 273 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 301 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 254 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 281 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 250 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 262 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 286 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 360 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 321 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 256 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 283 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 280 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 351 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 285 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 277 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 287 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 300 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 267 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 310 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 257 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 234 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 287 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 262 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 237 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 239 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 304 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 261 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 284 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 257 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 269 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 283 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 271 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 291 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 240 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 259 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 255 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 296 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 270 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 246 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 268 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 290 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 259 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 272 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 263 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 357 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 246 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 287 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 257 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 286 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 334 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 260 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 243 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 269 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 249 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 249 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 234 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 270 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 331 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 303 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 268 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 265 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 281 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 302 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 317 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 264 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 256 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 246 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 243 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 261 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 252 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 265 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 261 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 292 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 223 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 247 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 220 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 228 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 218 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 254 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 214 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 224 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:22
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 260 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 19:15
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 240 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 22:17
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 225 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-18 00:04