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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Thanks. Now I think I see your point. The
> disconnect I see is that a "step" pyramid doesn't
> require a central "core tower" structure and vice
> versa. Djoser is a step but not a core tower
> pyramid.

The long standing idea is that Djoser's pyramid began as a mastaba and was enlarged and made into a stepped pyramid then enlarged again.

Looking at this model, if you remove the dotted accretion layer lines from above the mastaba within the first pyrmaid phase it is easy to see a structure eerily similar to what is found at Meidum. I assume this model was made by Lauer, but looking at the models made there are assumptions made based on the accretion layer model, yet at the center of these is a tower in which the layers are placed against. How are we to know the mastaba was not raised as tall as it practically could be, a tower, then the steps added around the structure like Meidum? Has it ever been verified the first pyrmaid was not actually a tower or is this just assumed? And these steps don't exactly inspire structural confidence that it was actually built step upon step as it is clearly separated from the layer behind it in some places:


> That satellite strikes me as a two or
> three step pyramid but not a core tower structure,
> and the other satellites show less hint of a core
> tower design, despite their state of disrepair.

I see a tower with a step built around it. Meidum bears this out:

Steps added around the tower core:


> A
> central core tower requires a 'seed within the
> fruit' perimeter which have not been identifed in
> all OK pyramids (afaik).

Please clarify.

> You say that all of the major pyramids with the
> internals sufficiently exposed show a central core
> tower design.
> I think it's interesting that not
> all OK pyramids' outer skins have collapsed, so
> perhaps the remaining pyramids that have not
> collapsed or degraded to reveal such internal core
> tower construction are still standing relatively
> intact because the builders opted
> for a strictly horizontal, and not core tower,
> design for those pyramids?

Possible, however, it does in fact appear G3 was built around a tower core. I think it is more likely the pyramids of Dahshur and Giza are just better made. If the Arabs didn't make the gash we wouldn't know what the core was of G3.

> And to be clear, I have no vested interest in
> whether any or all of them have the core tower
> design. In fact, such a design better supports
> adaption which I do strongly support, based on the
> physical evidence. It's just that I don't see the
> data as compelling for the core tower design being
> as widespread as you're suggesting.

Whether one wants to call them "stepped cores" or "tower cores", as I have shown in pictures, and Rigano verifies, what we have is every pyramid that is exposed and not a pile of rubble has a tower/stepped core.

> But assuming for the moment that most, if not all,
> of them do indeed have the core tower feature,
> what do you make of that? What are the
> implications to you if that were true?

As I have argued it raises the possibility some of these cores were made as stand alone structures and later converted to pyramids. Maybe many were originally made this way and later converted. The core at Meidum says to me it was made that way as a finished product and at some point later converted to a pyramid. This is obviously the best example. Petrie believed the pyramid layer of G3 was built over a pre-existing structure, which appears to be a tower core, that I have tried to bolster this case. The pyramids of Egypt aren't just building shapes, they are an ideology which at some point it is clear this ideology changed from one to the other. Maybe they first started building towers which when this ideology changed they converted them to pyramids and built new ones around this model.

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Pyramid Construction 6549 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 06:05
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 858 M. J. Thomas 11-Dec-16 11:10
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 808 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 761 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 717 Jon Ellison 11-Dec-16 12:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 690 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 605 DScribr 11-Dec-16 14:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 671 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 18:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 642 Lee McGiffen 16-Dec-16 10:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 595 DUNE 16-Dec-16 12:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 543 DUNE 16-Dec-16 14:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 676 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 586 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 685 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 631 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 619 sfbey 11-Dec-16 17:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 628 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 476 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 679 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 566 Warwick 11-Dec-16 20:56
Block Construction 585 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:23
Re: Block Construction 615 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:35
Re: Block Construction 639 randompHactor 11-Dec-16 21:53
Re: Block Construction 554 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 653 loveritas 11-Dec-16 22:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 628 DScribr 11-Dec-16 23:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 592 loveritas 12-Dec-16 01:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 622 DScribr 12-Dec-16 14:31
More Sand 611 loveritas 12-Dec-16 22:11
Re: More Sand 588 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:19
Re: More Sand 611 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 00:15
Re: More Sand 613 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:25
Re: More Sand 599 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:03
Re: More Sand 616 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 01:19
Where is the Sand 627 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:00
Re: Where is the Sand 609 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:15
Re: Where is the Sand 633 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:34
Re: More Sand 656 Audrey 13-Dec-16 03:50
Re: More Sand 586 cladking 13-Dec-16 04:43
Re: More Sand 650 Audrey 13-Dec-16 04:55
Re: More Sand 677 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 11:40
Re: More Sand 693 Audrey 14-Dec-16 02:43
Re: More Sand 698 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 10:39
Re: More Sand 645 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:19
Re: More Sand 627 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:03
Re: More Sand 603 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:19
Re: More Sand 634 Audrey 15-Dec-16 05:40
Re: More Sand 574 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 09:50
Re: More Sand 548 DUNE 15-Dec-16 11:35
Re: More Sand 546 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 12:38
Re: More Sand 569 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:10
Re: More Sand 597 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 14:52
Re: More Sand 551 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 14:33
Re: More Sand 520 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:17
Re: More Sand 561 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:35
Re: More Sand 533 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:45
Re: More Sand 613 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 16:02
Re: More Sand 563 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 16:25
Re: More Sand 515 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:00
Re: More Sand 451 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:20
Re: More Sand 572 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:38
Re: More Sand 546 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:48
Re: More Sand 610 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:27
Re: More Sand 540 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 14:41
Re: More Sand 594 DUNE 16-Dec-16 15:38
Re: More Sand 498 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 17:02
Re: More Sand 645 DUNE 16-Dec-16 17:15
Re: More Sand 587 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:12
Re: More Sand 557 DUNE 16-Dec-16 20:04
Re: More Sand 600 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 17:01
Re: More Sand 483 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:33
Chisel Marks Suggest..... 564 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:20
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 614 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:41
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 532 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:49
Re: More Sand 524 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:17
Re: More Sand 567 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 11:43
Popular Posters 634 loveritas 14-Dec-16 10:57
Re: Popular Posters 676 M. J. Thomas 14-Dec-16 13:52
Re: Popular Posters 561 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:18
Presumption Correction 684 loveritas 13-Dec-16 06:35
Re: Presumption Correction 650 Audrey 13-Dec-16 06:38
Re: More Sand 652 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 07:17
Re: More Sand 574 cladking 13-Dec-16 14:46
Re: More Sand 635 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 18:07
Re: More Sand 541 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 19:07
Re: More Sand 645 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:19
Re: More Sand 573 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 02:34
Re: More Sand 615 cladking 14-Dec-16 03:41
Re: More Sand 542 Thanos5150 15-Dec-16 17:39
Re: More Sand 613 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:16
Re: More Sand 553 Audrey 14-Dec-16 03:31
GOT Sand??? 606 DScribr 14-Dec-16 04:06
Re: GOT Sand??? 616 Audrey 14-Dec-16 04:36
Re: GOT brains??? 610 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:16
Re: GOT Sand??? 684 cladking 14-Dec-16 04:51
Who Ya' Gonna Call? 618 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:51
Re: More Sand 503 loveritas 13-Dec-16 01:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 540 Steve Clayton 11-Dec-16 23:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 543 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 00:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 612 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 575 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 585 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 783 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 609 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 540 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 19:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 616 M. J. Thomas 12-Dec-16 11:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 586 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 17:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 599 M. J. Thomas 13-Dec-16 01:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 584 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 632 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 18:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 560 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 18:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 607 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 590 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 562 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 548 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 573 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 17:31
Houdin's most critical error 642 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:17
Re: Houdin's most critical error 534 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 18:52
Re: Houdin's most critical error 632 Warwick 14-Dec-16 19:14
Re: Houdin's most critical error 550 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 21:07
the $64,000.00 Question 603 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:35
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 517 DScribr 16-Dec-16 21:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 581 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 614 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:23
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 556 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 574 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 23:07
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 542 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 11:24
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 603 DUNE 18-Dec-16 12:14
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 543 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 17:05
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 643 DUNE 18-Dec-16 17:51
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 503 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 463 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 19:41
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 503 DUNE 19-Dec-16 21:29
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 445 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 22:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 546 DUNE 19-Dec-16 23:21
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 475 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:56
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 549 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 14:53
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 498 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:17
Where are the Taxonomies? 507 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: Where are the Taxonomies? 537 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:33
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 495 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 541 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 548 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:58
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 556 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:44
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 428 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 17:33
In A Cemetery 546 DScribr 18-Dec-16 20:06
Re: In A Cemetery 539 cladking 18-Dec-16 20:11
Re: In A Cemetery 540 DScribr 18-Dec-16 22:59
Re: In A Cemetery 514 cladking 19-Dec-16 00:52
Re: In A Cemetery 534 DScribr 19-Dec-16 01:32
Re: In A Cemetery 431 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:52
Re: In A Cemetery 554 DScribr 19-Dec-16 03:54
Re: In A Cemetery 590 Thanos5150 19-Dec-16 04:44
Re: In A Cemetery 501 M. J. Thomas 19-Dec-16 17:53
Re: In A Cemetery 486 cladking 19-Dec-16 17:59
Re: In A Cemetery 495 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 18:13
Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 525 DScribr 20-Dec-16 03:50
Re: Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 508 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:34
Re: In A Cemetery 523 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:23
Re: In A Cemetery 492 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:28
Re: In A Cemetery 484 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:52
Re: In A Cemetery 458 Corpuscles 20-Dec-16 11:58
Re: In A Cemetery 438 DUNE 20-Dec-16 15:06
Re: In A Cemetery 482 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:42
Re: In A Cemetery 515 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:49
Re: In A Cemetery 477 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 16:31
Re: In A Cemetery 428 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 16:49
Re: In A Cemetery 488 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:11
Re: In A Cemetery 479 cladking 20-Dec-16 19:46
Re: In A Cemetery 470 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 20:51
Re: In A Cemetery 488 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:56
Re: In A Cemetery 551 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:09
Re: In A Cemetery 470 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 452 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
Re: In A Cemetery 461 Warwick 21-Dec-16 23:01
Re: In A Cemetery 532 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:28
Re: In A Cemetery 461 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:07
Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 520 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 457 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
Re: He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 380 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:35
Re: In A Cemetery 548 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 406 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 525 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 520 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 538 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 550 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 498 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 538 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 510 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 536 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 541 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
Re: In A Cemetery 600 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:01
Re: In A Cemetery 576 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 509 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 431 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 462 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 579 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 545 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 509 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 620 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
Re: In A Cemetery 493 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
Re: In A Cemetery 514 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:49
Re: In A Cemetery 499 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
Re: In A Cemetery 519 cladking 21-Dec-16 14:44
Re: In A Cemetery 271 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-18 20:42
Re: In A Cemetery 422 DScribr 19-Dec-16 23:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 578 Sirius7237 14-Dec-16 23:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 648 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 515 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 03:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 565 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 04:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 565 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 594 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 15:35
Animal Fat for Lube?!? 568 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
Re: Animal Fat for Lube?!? 570 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 17:26
Re: Animal Fat reduces Friction-That's A Fact! 546 DScribr 15-Dec-16 20:13
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 531 Sirius7237 17-Dec-16 22:09
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 550 Steve Clayton 19-Dec-16 02:03
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 696 Sirius7237 19-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 497 Steve Clayton 20-Dec-16 17:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 409 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 508 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 578 cladking 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 538 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 540 cladking 12-Dec-16 15:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 558 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 552 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 530 cladking 12-Dec-16 02:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 510 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
Re: Accretion Layers 504 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 02:14
Re: G3 Exposed 658 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 03:53
Re: G3 Exposed 597 loveritas 12-Dec-16 04:44
Re: G3 Exposed 524 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:15
Re: G3 Exposed 737 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:39
Re: G3 Exposed 600 loveritas 12-Dec-16 06:17
Re: G3 Exposed 514 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:40
Re: G3 Exposed 510 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 681 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 04:02
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 559 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:12
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 592 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:21
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 577 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:38
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 721 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 571 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 494 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 506 DScribr 12-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 525 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 492 cladking 12-Dec-16 18:32
Re: Pyramid Construction 518 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 552 cladking 12-Dec-16 19:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 532 Warwick 12-Dec-16 19:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 460 cladking 12-Dec-16 20:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 502 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 514 cladking 13-Dec-16 20:29
NO 515 Warwick 13-Dec-16 21:54
Re: Pyramid Construction 537 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 556 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 529 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 507 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 557 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 500 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 520 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 536 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 552 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 575 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 441 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 536 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:13
Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 578 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:06
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 524 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:27
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction-Webster's is not...... 533 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 476 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 548 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 489 Warwick 14-Dec-16 20:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 501 cladking 14-Dec-16 20:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 501 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:39
Re: Pyramid Construction 591 cladking 15-Dec-16 01:48
correction 424 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:30
Re: correction 530 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:49
Re: correction 498 Warwick 16-Dec-16 20:05
Re: correction 475 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 20:27
Re: correction 493 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:10
Re: correction 486 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:50
NONE 380 DScribr 16-Dec-16 22:59
Re: correction 485 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:53
Re: 21st Century Westerner v 4th Dyn. Ancient Egyptian 500 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 23:28
Re: correction 511 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 16:20
Re: correction 439 DocKnowles 22-Dec-16 20:22
Re: correction 498 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 21:00
Re: correction 525 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 06:43
Re: correction 468 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 07:43
Re: correction 458 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 10:44
Re: correction 446 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 12:06
Re: correction 473 cladking 23-Dec-16 14:26
Re: correction 475 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 15:41
Re: correction 505 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:13
Re: correction 403 Origyptian 23-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 371 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:31
Re: correction 508 Thanos5150 23-Dec-16 17:39
Re: correction 517 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 08:13
Re: correction 495 cladking 24-Dec-16 15:18
Re: correction 522 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 16:49
Re: correction 451 cladking 24-Dec-16 17:24
Re: correction 442 Thanos5150 24-Dec-16 16:52
Re: correction 430 Origyptian 24-Dec-16 18:12
Re: correction 517 Martin Stower 24-Dec-16 23:42
Re: correction 523 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 00:51
Re: correction 486 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 01:03
Re: correction 609 DUNE 27-Dec-16 18:09
Re: correction 594 DUNE 30-Dec-16 21:16
Re: correction 552 Thanos5150 30-Dec-16 23:58
Re: correction 691 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-16 07:38
Re: correction 466 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 14:44
Re: correction 432 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 454 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 454 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 458 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 597 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 486 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 612 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 482 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 492 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 435 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 401 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 443 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 523 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 438 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 540 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 496 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 522 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 525 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 458 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 567 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 420 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 446 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 490 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 470 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 461 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 527 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 369 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 500 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 459 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 439 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 408 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 466 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 471 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 421 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 482 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 407 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 439 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 501 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 315 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 470 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 526 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 481 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 531 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 402 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 450 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 444 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 503 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 471 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 523 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 526 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 492 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 387 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 490 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 401 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 496 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 473 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 458 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 521 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 625 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 511 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 507 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 502 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 518 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 539 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 466 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 548 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 598 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 522 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 543 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 529 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 533 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 432 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 522 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 544 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 536 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 550 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 555 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 592 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 551 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 594 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 601 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 498 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 419 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 289 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 345 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 326 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 282 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 331 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 334 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 386 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 302 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 278 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 301 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 275 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 257 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 277 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 340 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 289 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 294 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 298 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 324 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 288 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 287 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 260 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 279 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 277 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 272 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 278 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 266 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 276 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 266 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 330 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 255 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 299 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 283 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 273 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 295 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 310 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 308 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 301 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 292 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 319 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 312 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 292 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 326 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 307 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 325 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 327 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 258 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 290 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 283 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 258 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 287 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 294 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 272 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 306 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 287 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 292 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 286 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 324 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 310 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 270 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 318 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 286 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 320 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 332 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 305 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 282 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 296 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 286 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 302 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 286 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 285 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 296 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 288 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 294 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 264 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 296 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 311 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 323 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 279 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 304 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 278 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 292 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 308 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 389 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 348 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 290 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 316 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 308 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 381 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 338 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 300 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 333 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 329 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 294 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 336 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 283 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 264 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 321 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 299 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 257 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 256 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 337 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 293 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 319 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 313 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 298 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 306 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 316 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 331 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 261 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 278 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 276 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 321 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 308 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 271 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 288 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 311 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 280 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 304 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 299 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 400 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 275 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 310 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 305 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 316 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 398 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 283 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 264 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 291 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 280 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 268 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 265 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 289 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 363 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 343 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 297 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 286 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 329 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 323 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 371 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 284 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 285 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 280 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 271 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 293 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 275 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 295 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 290 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 339 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 266 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 269 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 252 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 250 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 241 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 296 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 245 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 257 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:22
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 289 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 19:15
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 263 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 22:17
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 245 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-18 00:04