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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I might have missed it in your previous posts,
> but
> > where do we see a central tower in G3?
>
> You did. A photo of the gash:
> HERE. See
> Rigano, again,
> The Stepped Core Within p.2-7. See table 1 p4 which he has
> verified the "stepped" cores of the 4th-6th
> Dynasties. Medium is referred to often as a
> "stepped core" which I do not think is necessarily
> apt and prefer "tower core" in which I believe the
> steps seen in other pyramids were added after the
> tower core was laid first. Regardless, "tower" or
> "stepped" core, take your pick.
>
> > Bonnie Sampsell writes that Lepsius, and by
> > association Borchardt, were wrong about the
> broad
> > application of accretion and that many OK
> pyramids
> > were built strictly in horizontal layers as
> their
> > final design with no indication of an inner
> > perimeter that would define a central tower.

>
>
> I have shown pyramid after pyramid with tower
> ("stepped" if you prefer) core that shows this is
> clearly not the case. Again, refer to Rigano table
> 1. The only ones left are either "ruined" or
> "unknown".
>
> > She
> > cites that M&R didn’t find any evidence of
> > accretion in many OK stone pyramids including
> the
> > 3 Gizamids as well as Red, Userkaf, and Sahure.
> > According to Sampsell:
> >
> >
    Italians Vito Maragioglio and Celeste
    > > Rinaldi studied the architecture of many Old
    > > Kingdom pyramids in great detail. They paid
    > > particular attention to the issue of accretion
    > > layers. They found that for the most part the
    > > major pyramids at Dahshur and Giza were too
    > well
    > > preserved to reveal much about their interior
    > > structure, but in every place where they could
    > > examine portions of the nucleus of these
    > pyramids
    > > they saw only blocks laid horizontally rather
    > than
    > > on a slant. In fact, they found no evidence for
    > > any internal faces that could be associated
    > with
    > > accretion layers in any Dynasty IV or V
    > > pyramid.

    > > [www.catchpenny.org]
>
> Accretion layers are vertical rows of blocks added
> in layers. Like so:
> [www.catchpenny.org]
>
> This changed to adding horizontal rows, a
> "horizontal accretion layer" if you will, yet
> still around a tower core. Hence why when this
> layer has fallen and/or been removed time and
> again we are left with somthing like this:
> [fr.academic.ru]
> Or any number of pyramids I have posted pictures
> of the least of which the one I just posted from
> Saqqara from the 5th/6th Dynasty.
>
> > Also:
> >
> >
    Miroslav Verner excavated the
    > unfinished
    > > pyramid of Dynasty V king, Raneferef
    > [Neferefre].
    > > Verner reported that this pyramid provides
    > > absolutely no evidence of building by accretion
    > > layers saying: “If the [accretion] theory was
    > > valid, then...it should have been possible to
    > find
    > > -- as in cross section -- stone masonry
    > arranged
    > > on all four sides in parallel layers. It would
    > be
    > > as if an onion not circular, but square, had
    > been
    > > sliced across horizontally.
>
> I think you are confused. I have used Neferefre's
> pyramid as one of many examples of a tower core:
> [upload.wikimedia.org]
>
> It makes no difference whether the outer pyramid
> layer was laid vertically as an accretion layer or
> horizontally in rows.
>
> > and
> >
> >
    The reports of Maragioglio, Rinaldi, and
    > > Verner, taken in conjunction with personal
    > > observations made during several trip to Egypt,
    > > make me confident that the Dynasty IV pyramids
    > at
    > > both Dahshur and Giza were constructed using
    > the
    > > new method of horizontal courses rather than
    > with
    > > inclined accretion layers.
>
> And...?
>
> > Where do you see a central tower as being
> ‘the
> > only standard’ design in the OK pyramids?
>
> This would be one of the reasons now wouldn't it?
> Whether the outer pyramid layer was added in
> vertical or horizontal rows there is still a tower
> core at its center.

Thanks. Now I think I see your point. The disconnect I see is that a "step" pyramid doesn't require a central "core tower" structure and vice versa. Djoser is a step but not a core tower pyramid. That satellite strikes me as a two or three step pyramid but not a core tower structure, and the other satellites show less hint of a core tower design, despite their state of disrepair. A central core tower requires a 'seed within the fruit' perimeter which have not been identifed in all OK pyramids (afaik).

You say that all of the major pyramids with the internals sufficiently exposed show a central core tower design. I think it's interesting that not all OK pyramids' outer skins have collapsed, so perhaps the remaining pyramids that have not collapsed or degraded to reveal such internal core tower construction are still standing relatively intact because the builders opted for a strictly horizontal, and not core tower, design for those pyramids?

And to be clear, I have no vested interest in whether any or all of them have the core tower design. In fact, such a design better supports adaption which I do strongly support, based on the physical evidence. It's just that I don't see the data as compelling for the core tower design being as widespread as you're suggesting.

But assuming for the moment that most, if not all, of them do indeed have the core tower feature, what do you make of that? What are the implications to you if that were true?

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Re: In A Cemetery 614 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:09
Re: In A Cemetery 548 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 529 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
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Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 597 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 529 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
Re: He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 449 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:35
Re: In A Cemetery 609 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 492 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 593 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 617 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 612 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 622 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 592 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 607 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 587 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 619 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 604 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
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Re: In A Cemetery 660 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 577 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 498 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 523 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 641 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 634 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 571 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
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Re: In A Cemetery 562 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
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Re: In A Cemetery 569 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
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Re: Pyramid Construction 666 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
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Animal Fat for Lube?!? 665 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
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While Egyptology fiddles... 570 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
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Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 560 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 622 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 609 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
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Re: correction 763 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-16 07:38
Re: correction 531 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 14:44
Re: correction 545 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 544 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 514 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 532 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 673 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 549 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 712 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 559 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 552 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 516 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 481 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 514 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 595 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 498 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 600 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 574 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 602 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 600 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 534 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 633 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 512 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 513 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 565 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 539 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 535 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 610 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 435 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 568 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 535 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 508 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 475 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 547 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 539 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 507 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 555 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 491 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 499 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 581 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 376 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 556 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 603 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 554 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 605 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 483 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 524 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 523 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 596 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 563 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 602 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 604 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 583 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 456 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 567 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 470 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 586 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 551 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 523 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 596 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 706 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 595 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 583 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 578 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 587 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 618 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 537 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 639 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 686 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 617 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 627 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 606 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 604 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 501 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 592 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 620 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 600 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 624 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 616 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 682 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 620 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 654 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 679 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 558 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 503 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 354 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 431 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 409 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 348 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 421 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 410 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 480 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 373 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 355 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 362 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 352 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 340 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 361 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 440 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 361 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 383 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 374 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 433 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 373 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 370 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 324 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 368 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 348 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 333 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 348 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 361 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 362 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 346 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 424 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 323 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 379 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 361 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 350 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 372 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 386 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 395 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 389 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 370 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 401 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 394 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 366 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 402 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 391 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 404 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 397 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 336 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 373 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 370 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 335 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 385 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 363 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 334 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 399 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 354 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 367 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 373 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 414 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 398 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 356 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 409 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 385 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 399 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 410 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 389 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 364 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 385 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 367 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 411 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 358 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 370 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 375 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 363 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 362 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 333 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 366 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 406 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 401 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 368 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 382 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 379 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 371 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 387 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 495 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 432 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 373 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 386 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 389 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 465 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 429 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 381 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 418 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 405 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 376 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 420 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 355 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 326 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 393 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 391 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 332 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 327 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 421 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 423 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 409 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 378 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 369 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 381 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 420 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 431 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 333 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 350 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 360 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 404 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 389 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 351 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 363 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 382 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 357 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 380 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 393 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 493 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 349 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 379 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 369 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 388 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 461 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 365 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 340 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 353 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 344 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 338 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 349 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 359 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 442 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 415 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 381 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 358 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 391 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 394 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 458 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 361 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 355 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 360 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 340 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 363 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 349 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 363 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 362 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 404 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 328 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 341 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 339 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 320 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 316 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 359 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 310 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 330 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:22