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Steve Clayton Wrote:
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> You are missing the point...
>
> Anything you can do to a 40 ton counter weight,
> grease this and grease that, can be done to the 40
> ton stone. No need for this ridiculous
> contraption. The fact that others have entertained
> this unworkable concept, lends nothing to an ill
> conceived concept. It sounds as though you are
> entertaining the , " I have no idea, therefore it
> must have been Aliens." Propose this concept to
> any Physics teacher, and hear what he has to say.
>
> You are lifting one weight, 40 tons, to help you
> lift another weight of 40 tons. This is something
> I would expect to see in the "Dumb and Dumber"
> movie.

You're missing the point. Ramps are wholly debunked based on the physical evidence but there are still five primary points of simple logic that show they would not and likely could not have been used. Ramps are inane based on this logic, common sense, and the physical evidence. They also are historically and culturally inappropriate. They didn't even have the word "ramp".

However, logic does not dictate against counterweights. Indeed, every single primary reason not to use ramps DOESN'T apply to counterweights.

1.,= Ramps are difficult to build, remove, rebuild to install cladding, and remove again. They require extreme effort. The grand gallery actually is a void and this void required LESS stone. Without the void they'd have had that much more stone to lift.

2.,= There is limited room for men on ramps. With all the traffic they'd have to build enormous ramps. This isn't an issue for men working on the flat pyramid top to pull the counterweight back up. They could use far more men than necessary so the guy with the hangover didn't stop the lift and traffic.

3.,= A man dragging a stone on a ramp can barely drag more than his own weight and he has to lift his own weight up the pyramid. Working on a flat surface men didn't need to lift their own weight so they could lift much more.

4.,= On a ramp your feet fall off behind you. You can't get a good purchase to put your strength into it. On a flat surface you can pull much harder.

5.,= On a ramp there is a continual tradeoff between a low friction surface for the load and high friction for the draggers. In the grand gallery friction could be reduced to very low levels as the men worked in comfort with first aid and supplies right at hand.

Egyptologists have got to climb down from their ramps and high horses. They missed it. There were no ramps. Get over it already. The builders were not bumpkins and probably not superstitious like Egyptologists and modern people.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

Subject Views Written By Posted
Pyramid Construction 7446 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 06:05
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 1081 M. J. Thomas 11-Dec-16 11:10
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 972 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 905 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 870 Jon Ellison 11-Dec-16 12:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 877 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 753 DScribr 11-Dec-16 14:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 814 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 18:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 785 Lee McGiffen 16-Dec-16 10:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 765 DUNE 16-Dec-16 12:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 699 DUNE 16-Dec-16 14:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 841 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 720 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 828 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 763 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 762 sfbey 11-Dec-16 17:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 751 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 613 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 846 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 684 Warwick 11-Dec-16 20:56
Block Construction 728 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:23
Re: Block Construction 766 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:35
Re: Block Construction 779 randompHactor 11-Dec-16 21:53
Re: Block Construction 706 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 799 loveritas 11-Dec-16 22:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 761 DScribr 11-Dec-16 23:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 726 loveritas 12-Dec-16 01:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 769 DScribr 12-Dec-16 14:31
More Sand 752 loveritas 12-Dec-16 22:11
Re: More Sand 724 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:19
Re: More Sand 747 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 00:15
Re: More Sand 739 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:25
Re: More Sand 736 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:03
Re: More Sand 739 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 01:19
Where is the Sand 760 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:00
Re: Where is the Sand 755 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:15
Re: Where is the Sand 757 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:34
Re: More Sand 798 Audrey 13-Dec-16 03:50
Re: More Sand 720 cladking 13-Dec-16 04:43
Re: More Sand 790 Audrey 13-Dec-16 04:55
Re: More Sand 832 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 11:40
Re: More Sand 837 Audrey 14-Dec-16 02:43
Re: More Sand 833 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 10:39
Re: More Sand 774 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:19
Re: More Sand 769 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:03
Re: More Sand 742 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:19
Re: More Sand 789 Audrey 15-Dec-16 05:40
Re: More Sand 741 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 09:50
Re: More Sand 681 DUNE 15-Dec-16 11:35
Re: More Sand 703 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 12:38
Re: More Sand 740 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:10
Re: More Sand 731 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 14:52
Re: More Sand 694 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 14:33
Re: More Sand 675 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:17
Re: More Sand 712 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:35
Re: More Sand 687 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:45
Re: More Sand 761 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 16:02
Re: More Sand 705 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 16:25
Re: More Sand 669 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:00
Re: More Sand 601 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:20
Re: More Sand 730 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:38
Re: More Sand 701 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:48
Re: More Sand 738 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:27
Re: More Sand 692 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 14:41
Re: More Sand 716 DUNE 16-Dec-16 15:38
Re: More Sand 663 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 17:02
Re: More Sand 810 DUNE 16-Dec-16 17:15
Re: More Sand 726 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:12
Re: More Sand 686 DUNE 16-Dec-16 20:04
Re: More Sand 770 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 17:01
Re: More Sand 618 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:33
Chisel Marks Suggest..... 723 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:20
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 742 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:41
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 679 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:49
Re: More Sand 683 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:17
Re: More Sand 698 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 11:43
Popular Posters 814 loveritas 14-Dec-16 10:57
Re: Popular Posters 844 M. J. Thomas 14-Dec-16 13:52
Re: Popular Posters 696 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:18
Presumption Correction 835 loveritas 13-Dec-16 06:35
Re: Presumption Correction 789 Audrey 13-Dec-16 06:38
Re: More Sand 784 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 07:17
Re: More Sand 711 cladking 13-Dec-16 14:46
Re: More Sand 765 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 18:07
Re: More Sand 680 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 19:07
Re: More Sand 784 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:19
Re: More Sand 746 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 02:34
Re: More Sand 776 cladking 14-Dec-16 03:41
Re: More Sand 717 Thanos5150 15-Dec-16 17:39
Re: More Sand 756 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:16
Re: More Sand 684 Audrey 14-Dec-16 03:31
GOT Sand??? 740 DScribr 14-Dec-16 04:06
Re: GOT Sand??? 773 Audrey 14-Dec-16 04:36
Re: GOT brains??? 735 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:16
Re: GOT Sand??? 841 cladking 14-Dec-16 04:51
Who Ya' Gonna Call? 764 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:51
Re: More Sand 626 loveritas 13-Dec-16 01:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 672 Steve Clayton 11-Dec-16 23:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 656 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 00:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 749 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 696 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 721 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 958 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 758 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 669 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 19:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 733 M. J. Thomas 12-Dec-16 11:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 740 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 17:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 748 M. J. Thomas 13-Dec-16 01:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 708 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 822 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 18:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 688 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 18:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 751 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 718 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 700 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 683 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 708 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 17:31
Houdin's most critical error 793 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:17
Re: Houdin's most critical error 699 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 18:52
Re: Houdin's most critical error 790 Warwick 14-Dec-16 19:14
Re: Houdin's most critical error 676 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 21:07
the \$64,000.00 Question 754 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:35
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question 650 DScribr 16-Dec-16 21:03
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question 699 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:03
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question 758 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:23
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question 688 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:43
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question 704 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 23:07
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 683 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 11:24
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 735 DUNE 18-Dec-16 12:14
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 669 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 17:05
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 754 DUNE 18-Dec-16 17:51
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 640 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:47
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 595 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 19:41
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 631 DUNE 19-Dec-16 21:29
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 574 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 22:47
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 672 DUNE 19-Dec-16 23:21
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 609 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:56
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 670 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 14:53
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 621 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:17
Where are the Taxonomies? 665 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: Where are the Taxonomies? 688 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:33
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 621 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 672 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:43
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 677 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:58
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 683 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:44
Re: the \$64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 552 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 17:33
In A Cemetery 676 DScribr 18-Dec-16 20:06
Re: In A Cemetery 667 cladking 18-Dec-16 20:11
Re: In A Cemetery 685 DScribr 18-Dec-16 22:59
Re: In A Cemetery 637 cladking 19-Dec-16 00:52
Re: In A Cemetery 664 DScribr 19-Dec-16 01:32
Re: In A Cemetery 582 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:52
Re: In A Cemetery 685 DScribr 19-Dec-16 03:54
Re: In A Cemetery 721 Thanos5150 19-Dec-16 04:44
Re: In A Cemetery 634 M. J. Thomas 19-Dec-16 17:53
Re: In A Cemetery 620 cladking 19-Dec-16 17:59
Re: In A Cemetery 627 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 18:13
Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 657 DScribr 20-Dec-16 03:50
Re: Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 639 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:34
Re: In A Cemetery 654 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:23
Re: In A Cemetery 631 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:28
Re: In A Cemetery 620 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:52
Re: In A Cemetery 580 Corpuscles 20-Dec-16 11:58
Re: In A Cemetery 571 DUNE 20-Dec-16 15:06
Re: In A Cemetery 635 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:42
Re: In A Cemetery 639 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:49
Re: In A Cemetery 607 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 16:31
Re: In A Cemetery 551 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 16:49
Re: In A Cemetery 613 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:11
Re: In A Cemetery 605 cladking 20-Dec-16 19:46
Re: In A Cemetery 605 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 20:51
Re: In A Cemetery 621 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:56
Re: In A Cemetery 675 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:09
Re: In A Cemetery 600 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 579 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
Re: In A Cemetery 575 Warwick 21-Dec-16 23:01
Re: In A Cemetery 659 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:28
Re: In A Cemetery 601 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:07
Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 642 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 596 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
Re: He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 499 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:35
Re: In A Cemetery 666 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 545 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 654 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 673 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 669 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 682 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 646 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 665 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 645 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 677 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 666 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
Re: In A Cemetery 739 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:01
Re: In A Cemetery 726 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 633 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 560 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 581 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 705 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 705 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 631 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 744 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
Re: In A Cemetery 616 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
Re: In A Cemetery 654 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:49
Re: In A Cemetery 628 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
Re: In A Cemetery 654 cladking 21-Dec-16 14:44
Re: In A Cemetery 428 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-18 20:42
Re: In A Cemetery 559 DScribr 19-Dec-16 23:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 704 Sirius7237 14-Dec-16 23:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 784 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 633 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 03:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 717 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 04:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 728 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 747 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 15:35
Animal Fat for Lube?!? 723 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
Re: Animal Fat for Lube?!? 690 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 17:26
Re: Animal Fat reduces Friction-That's A Fact! 696 DScribr 15-Dec-16 20:13
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 657 Sirius7237 17-Dec-16 22:09
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 685 Steve Clayton 19-Dec-16 02:03
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 817 Sirius7237 19-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 645 Steve Clayton 20-Dec-16 17:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 537 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 633 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 710 cladking 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 664 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 669 cladking 12-Dec-16 15:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 692 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 685 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 676 cladking 12-Dec-16 02:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 645 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
Re: Accretion Layers 630 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 02:14
Re: G3 Exposed 825 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 03:53
Re: G3 Exposed 710 loveritas 12-Dec-16 04:44
Re: G3 Exposed 649 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:15
Re: G3 Exposed 906 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:39
Re: G3 Exposed 727 loveritas 12-Dec-16 06:17
Re: G3 Exposed 647 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:40
Re: G3 Exposed 646 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 848 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 04:02
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 689 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:12
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 726 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:21
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 701 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:38
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 902 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 715 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 639 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 634 DScribr 12-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 644 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 617 cladking 12-Dec-16 18:32
Re: Pyramid Construction 654 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 683 cladking 12-Dec-16 19:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 659 Warwick 12-Dec-16 19:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 614 cladking 12-Dec-16 20:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 660 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 637 cladking 13-Dec-16 20:29
NO 632 Warwick 13-Dec-16 21:54
Re: Pyramid Construction 663 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 673 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 669 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 625 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 690 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 613 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 675 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 673 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 675 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 687 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 570 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 669 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:13
Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 705 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:06
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 649 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:27
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction-Webster's is not...... 663 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 599 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 672 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 619 Warwick 14-Dec-16 20:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 634 cladking 14-Dec-16 20:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 626 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:39
Re: Pyramid Construction 713 cladking 15-Dec-16 01:48
correction 572 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:30
Re: correction 649 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:49
Re: correction 615 Warwick 16-Dec-16 20:05
Re: correction 601 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 20:27
Re: correction 609 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:10
Re: correction 606 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:50
NONE 506 DScribr 16-Dec-16 22:59
Re: correction 624 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:53
Re: 21st Century Westerner v 4th Dyn. Ancient Egyptian 618 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 23:28
Re: correction 637 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 16:20
Re: correction 566 DocKnowles 22-Dec-16 20:22
Re: correction 635 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 21:00
Re: correction 646 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 06:43
Re: correction 600 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 07:43
Re: correction 585 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 10:44
Re: correction 564 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 12:06
Re: correction 597 cladking 23-Dec-16 14:26
Re: correction 613 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 15:41
Re: correction 642 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:13
Re: correction 548 Origyptian 23-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 520 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:31
Re: correction 635 Thanos5150 23-Dec-16 17:39
Re: correction 621 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 08:13
Re: correction 604 cladking 24-Dec-16 15:18
Re: correction 669 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 16:49
Re: correction 603 cladking 24-Dec-16 17:24
Re: correction 569 Thanos5150 24-Dec-16 16:52
Re: correction 559 Origyptian 24-Dec-16 18:12
Re: correction 648 Martin Stower 24-Dec-16 23:42
Re: correction 669 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 00:51
Re: correction 608 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 01:03
Re: correction 731 DUNE 27-Dec-16 18:09
Re: correction 713 DUNE 30-Dec-16 21:16
Re: correction 701 Thanos5150 30-Dec-16 23:58
Re: correction 821 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-16 07:38
Re: correction 585 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 14:44
Re: correction 604 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 599 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 563 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 584 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 721 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 596 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 776 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 614 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 609 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 570 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 532 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 567 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 649 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 576 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 651 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 631 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 664 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 655 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 589 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 696 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 561 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 568 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 631 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 594 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 587 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 670 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 492 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 618 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 585 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 560 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 534 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 601 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 596 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 561 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 608 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 553 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 552 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 642 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 437 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 632 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 655 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 603 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 662 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 538 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 582 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 580 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 656 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 612 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 669 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 659 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 642 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 507 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 622 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 521 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 675 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 613 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 587 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 649 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 765 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 658 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 639 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 630 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 647 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 697 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 608 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 704 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 742 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 671 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 680 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 657 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 665 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 554 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 645 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 681 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 660 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 684 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 675 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 736 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 670 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 708 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 733 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 618 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 565 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 410 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 489 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 491 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 402 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 484 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 465 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 535 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 442 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 406 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 414 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 403 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 393 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 413 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 494 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 424 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 432 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 430 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 500 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 428 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 430 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 381 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 416 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 405 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 394 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 410 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 419 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 419 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 402 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 477 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 372 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 431 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 419 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 404 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 434 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 447 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 456 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 447 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 418 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 463 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 447 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 419 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 454 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 468 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 467 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 460 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 394 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 421 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 425 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 391 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 444 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 428 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 397 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 457 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 411 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 417 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 422 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 475 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 451 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 407 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 469 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 437 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 462 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 464 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 445 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 416 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 440 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 440 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 464 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 414 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 425 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 451 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 408 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 440 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 386 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 423 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 459 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 468 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 421 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 448 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 441 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 433 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 444 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 547 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 498 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 435 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 445 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 457 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 519 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 499 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 431 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 472 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 470 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 427 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 470 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 415 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 381 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 449 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 450 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 384 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 390 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 472 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 509 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 471 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 434 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 420 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 447 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 478 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 500 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 379 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 405 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 419 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 475 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 443 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 405 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 422 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 438 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 421 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 454 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 459 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 552 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 411 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 443 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 425 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 445 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 519 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 419 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 395 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 400 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 405 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 406 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 406 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 411 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 499 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 471 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 439 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 416 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 449 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 447 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 510 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 426 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 418 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 412 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 391 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 411 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 404 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 413 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 417 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 476 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 380 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 396 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 403 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 381 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 369 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 425 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 371 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 392 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:22
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 424 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 19:15
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 393 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 22:17
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 365 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-18 00:04
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