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Audrey Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
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> > I really don't think dead lifting is a rational
> > explanation. I think the most credible method is
> > that they used water in conjunction with a
> > counterweight system such as the funicular which
> > is why I like your system. I admit, though, that I
> > don't accept the traditional timeline. I don't see
> > any evidence that the Dynastics had the
> > wherewithall to achieve that kind of work. As I've
> > said many times, I think it's very likely that the
> > Dynastic culture with its funerary context was
> > layered over structures that were already ancient
> > by the 3rd millennium BC.
>
> But using ropes and timbers are congruent with a
> time frame of 2500 b.c. They are the methods,
> tools and equipment the AE of that time would have.
>
> If you believe, as I do, that the time frame is
> way off, then ropes and timbers are not the
> obvious method of construction. In fact, they
> would be incongruent with an older construction
> time because we do not know what an older culture
> would have developed. And judging by the
> stonework, they had much more sophisticated
> methods than rope and timber.
>
> Besides, ropes and wood frames are not going to
> life the 50+ ton stones. Neither will a geyser.
> And how much water would be needed to float a 50+
> ton stone? How large would the raft have to be to
> hold such tonnage?
>
> Funiculars do not answer the problem of the moving
> the larger stones into place. They had the
> equipment to make extraordinary stone cuts but
> used basic primitive ropes and timbers? This is a
> contradiction not only in skill, but also in
> method and equipment.
>
> And there is nothing to show they had pulleys. I
> should believe they had pulleys but not the wheel?
> A pulley goes round and round. Oh damn it, the
> pulley came off and look at it roll across the
> stones. Gee, wonder if we could use that rolling
> thing in other ways. They didn't think of that!
> Not very observant, were they?

I agree with everything you said. I am not convinced that those pyramids were built with the main tools being wood, rope, and copper. When I referred to "the most credible method", I was only considering the scenario of the traditional timeline. In other words, if we are talking about the best chance of achieving such a thing during the Dynastic period, then using a funicular system seems the most rational proposal as opposed to long, massive construction ramps or dead lifting, e.g., using wooden cranes. But no matter what's proposed using the technology thought to be available during the Dynastic period, it's by no means sufficient.

So I completely agree that such a counterbalance system does not address the entire challenge. It doesn't address the method of quarrying, shaping, transporting, lifting, and precision positioning slabs of solid granite up to 80 tons from Aswan. It doesn't address the complex block shapes in the Ascending Passage. It doesn't address why there is essentially zero physical evidence that such work was done within the traditional timeline. It doesn't address a lot of challenges that remain unreconciled. This is why I'm on record for years suggesting what I consider to be the far more likely possibility that those monuments are far older than the Dynastic period and are the result of technologies used so long ago that subsequent cultures have had time to experience technological amnesia and, instead, have invented the funerary context as a means to explain what, to them, was otherwise inexplicable.

And regarding the "wheel", they had the potters wheel but not a pulley and wheeled vehicle? And it took them 1000 years to evolve that potters wheel from being hand driven to being foot driven? No inscription or painting of any pulleys or wheeled vehicles?

In addition, no tombs with any presence of the tools or methods, or any inscriptions or graphics of anything remotely hinting of any credible details about the construction of those pyramids? Nothing in any historic document or tomb in any surrounding culture, or among the millions of merchants, travelers, tourist, etc., who might have witnessed such massive, high technology projects openly visible from the Nile during those centuries when those pyramids were allegedly constructed? Not any hint of any details about such activity within the tomb of any pharaoh, designer, architect, project managers, mason, quarryman, etc., to represent their skills and accomplishments in their audition to the afterlife?

In my opinion, all of that strongly supports the notion that the Dynastics had very limited engineering acumen.

H.G. Wells' Eloi come to mind.

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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03-Mar-18 13:50 by Origyptian.

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Pyramid Construction 7094 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 06:05
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 993 M. J. Thomas 11-Dec-16 11:10
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 900 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 837 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 809 Jon Ellison 11-Dec-16 12:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 776 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 681 DScribr 11-Dec-16 14:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 751 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 18:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 726 Lee McGiffen 16-Dec-16 10:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 693 DUNE 16-Dec-16 12:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 628 DUNE 16-Dec-16 14:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 768 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 656 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 766 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 706 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 695 sfbey 11-Dec-16 17:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 697 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 544 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 786 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 625 Warwick 11-Dec-16 20:56
Block Construction 662 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:23
Re: Block Construction 690 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:35
Re: Block Construction 719 randompHactor 11-Dec-16 21:53
Re: Block Construction 643 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 741 loveritas 11-Dec-16 22:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 693 DScribr 11-Dec-16 23:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 661 loveritas 12-Dec-16 01:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 706 DScribr 12-Dec-16 14:31
More Sand 685 loveritas 12-Dec-16 22:11
Re: More Sand 666 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:19
Re: More Sand 682 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 00:15
Re: More Sand 677 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:25
Re: More Sand 678 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:03
Re: More Sand 677 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 01:19
Where is the Sand 701 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:00
Re: Where is the Sand 681 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:15
Re: Where is the Sand 694 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:34
Re: More Sand 733 Audrey 13-Dec-16 03:50
Re: More Sand 654 cladking 13-Dec-16 04:43
Re: More Sand 727 Audrey 13-Dec-16 04:55
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Re: More Sand 769 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 10:39
Re: More Sand 707 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:19
Re: More Sand 702 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:03
Re: More Sand 673 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:19
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Re: More Sand 620 DUNE 15-Dec-16 11:35
Re: More Sand 634 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 12:38
Re: More Sand 676 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:10
Re: More Sand 669 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 14:52
Re: More Sand 622 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 14:33
Re: More Sand 615 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:17
Re: More Sand 645 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:35
Re: More Sand 623 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:45
Re: More Sand 698 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 16:02
Re: More Sand 630 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 16:25
Re: More Sand 599 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:00
Re: More Sand 534 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:20
Re: More Sand 664 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:38
Re: More Sand 618 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:48
Re: More Sand 681 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:27
Re: More Sand 618 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 14:41
Re: More Sand 662 DUNE 16-Dec-16 15:38
Re: More Sand 592 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 17:02
Re: More Sand 742 DUNE 16-Dec-16 17:15
Re: More Sand 656 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:12
Re: More Sand 625 DUNE 16-Dec-16 20:04
Re: More Sand 699 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 17:01
Re: More Sand 562 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:33
Chisel Marks Suggest..... 649 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:20
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 670 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:41
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 622 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:49
Re: More Sand 614 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:17
Re: More Sand 637 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 11:43
Popular Posters 718 loveritas 14-Dec-16 10:57
Re: Popular Posters 768 M. J. Thomas 14-Dec-16 13:52
Re: Popular Posters 634 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:18
Presumption Correction 772 loveritas 13-Dec-16 06:35
Re: Presumption Correction 724 Audrey 13-Dec-16 06:38
Re: More Sand 723 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 07:17
Re: More Sand 645 cladking 13-Dec-16 14:46
Re: More Sand 694 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 18:07
Re: More Sand 616 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 19:07
Re: More Sand 710 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:19
Re: More Sand 672 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 02:34
Re: More Sand 699 cladking 14-Dec-16 03:41
Re: More Sand 631 Thanos5150 15-Dec-16 17:39
Re: More Sand 695 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:16
Re: More Sand 622 Audrey 14-Dec-16 03:31
GOT Sand??? 676 DScribr 14-Dec-16 04:06
Re: GOT Sand??? 707 Audrey 14-Dec-16 04:36
Re: GOT brains??? 674 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:16
Re: GOT Sand??? 776 cladking 14-Dec-16 04:51
Who Ya' Gonna Call? 700 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:51
Re: More Sand 572 loveritas 13-Dec-16 01:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 610 Steve Clayton 11-Dec-16 23:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 601 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 00:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 685 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 635 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 650 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 879 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 701 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 607 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 19:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 676 M. J. Thomas 12-Dec-16 11:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 671 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 17:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 671 M. J. Thomas 13-Dec-16 01:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 646 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 731 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 18:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 628 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 18:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 692 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 660 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 636 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 621 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 647 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 17:31
Houdin's most critical error 724 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:17
Re: Houdin's most critical error 635 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 18:52
Re: Houdin's most critical error 720 Warwick 14-Dec-16 19:14
Re: Houdin's most critical error 612 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 21:07
the $64,000.00 Question 687 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:35
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 590 DScribr 16-Dec-16 21:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 645 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 698 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:23
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 625 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 641 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 23:07
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 610 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 11:24
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 670 DUNE 18-Dec-16 12:14
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 608 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 17:05
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 700 DUNE 18-Dec-16 17:51
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 575 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 530 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 19:41
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 577 DUNE 19-Dec-16 21:29
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 512 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 22:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 617 DUNE 19-Dec-16 23:21
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 543 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:56
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 618 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 14:53
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 568 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:17
Where are the Taxonomies? 603 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: Where are the Taxonomies? 615 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:33
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 556 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 616 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 621 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:58
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 619 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:44
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 497 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 17:33
In A Cemetery 613 DScribr 18-Dec-16 20:06
Re: In A Cemetery 601 cladking 18-Dec-16 20:11
Re: In A Cemetery 620 DScribr 18-Dec-16 22:59
Re: In A Cemetery 583 cladking 19-Dec-16 00:52
Re: In A Cemetery 607 DScribr 19-Dec-16 01:32
Re: In A Cemetery 512 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:52
Re: In A Cemetery 619 DScribr 19-Dec-16 03:54
Re: In A Cemetery 658 Thanos5150 19-Dec-16 04:44
Re: In A Cemetery 565 M. J. Thomas 19-Dec-16 17:53
Re: In A Cemetery 552 cladking 19-Dec-16 17:59
Re: In A Cemetery 568 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 18:13
Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 596 DScribr 20-Dec-16 03:50
Re: Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 575 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:34
Re: In A Cemetery 592 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:23
Re: In A Cemetery 560 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:28
Re: In A Cemetery 549 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:52
Re: In A Cemetery 526 Corpuscles 20-Dec-16 11:58
Re: In A Cemetery 508 DUNE 20-Dec-16 15:06
Re: In A Cemetery 552 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:42
Re: In A Cemetery 582 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:49
Re: In A Cemetery 542 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 16:31
Re: In A Cemetery 495 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 16:49
Re: In A Cemetery 553 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:11
Re: In A Cemetery 543 cladking 20-Dec-16 19:46
Re: In A Cemetery 535 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 20:51
Re: In A Cemetery 563 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:56
Re: In A Cemetery 611 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:09
Re: In A Cemetery 546 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 527 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
Re: In A Cemetery 516 Warwick 21-Dec-16 23:01
Re: In A Cemetery 600 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:28
Re: In A Cemetery 534 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:07
Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 594 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 526 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
Re: He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 447 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:35
Re: In A Cemetery 608 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 491 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 590 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 616 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 609 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 621 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 590 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 605 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 585 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 618 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 602 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
Re: In A Cemetery 674 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:01
Re: In A Cemetery 658 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 575 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 496 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 522 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 639 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 632 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 570 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 678 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
Re: In A Cemetery 560 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
Re: In A Cemetery 596 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:49
Re: In A Cemetery 566 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
Re: In A Cemetery 592 cladking 21-Dec-16 14:44
Re: In A Cemetery 360 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-18 20:42
Re: In A Cemetery 494 DScribr 19-Dec-16 23:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 645 Sirius7237 14-Dec-16 23:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 723 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 581 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 03:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 652 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 04:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 664 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 691 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 15:35
Animal Fat for Lube?!? 664 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
Re: Animal Fat for Lube?!? 626 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 17:26
Re: Animal Fat reduces Friction-That's A Fact! 614 DScribr 15-Dec-16 20:13
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 605 Sirius7237 17-Dec-16 22:09
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 615 Steve Clayton 19-Dec-16 02:03
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 762 Sirius7237 19-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 585 Steve Clayton 20-Dec-16 17:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 472 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 577 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 648 cladking 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 604 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 603 cladking 12-Dec-16 15:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 623 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 624 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 604 cladking 12-Dec-16 02:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 582 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
Re: Accretion Layers 574 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 02:14
Re: G3 Exposed 748 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 03:53
Re: G3 Exposed 652 loveritas 12-Dec-16 04:44
Re: G3 Exposed 593 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:15
Re: G3 Exposed 819 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:39
Re: G3 Exposed 659 loveritas 12-Dec-16 06:17
Re: G3 Exposed 588 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:40
Re: G3 Exposed 579 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 771 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 04:02
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 626 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:12
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 657 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:21
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 646 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:38
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 823 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 642 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 581 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 573 DScribr 12-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 593 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 561 cladking 12-Dec-16 18:32
Re: Pyramid Construction 588 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 618 cladking 12-Dec-16 19:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 593 Warwick 12-Dec-16 19:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 551 cladking 12-Dec-16 20:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 576 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 572 cladking 13-Dec-16 20:29
NO 574 Warwick 13-Dec-16 21:54
Re: Pyramid Construction 606 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 617 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 610 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 568 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 625 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 557 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 620 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 607 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 621 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 630 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 510 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 605 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:13
Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 644 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:06
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 591 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:27
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction-Webster's is not...... 607 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 543 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 606 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 555 Warwick 14-Dec-16 20:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 583 cladking 14-Dec-16 20:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 567 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:39
Re: Pyramid Construction 654 cladking 15-Dec-16 01:48
correction 509 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:30
Re: correction 595 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:49
Re: correction 566 Warwick 16-Dec-16 20:05
Re: correction 546 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 20:27
Re: correction 562 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:10
Re: correction 552 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:50
NONE 444 DScribr 16-Dec-16 22:59
Re: correction 564 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:53
Re: 21st Century Westerner v 4th Dyn. Ancient Egyptian 557 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 23:28
Re: correction 580 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 16:20
Re: correction 511 DocKnowles 22-Dec-16 20:22
Re: correction 572 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 21:00
Re: correction 591 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 06:43
Re: correction 534 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 07:43
Re: correction 533 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 10:44
Re: correction 506 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 12:06
Re: correction 530 cladking 23-Dec-16 14:26
Re: correction 550 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 15:41
Re: correction 574 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:13
Re: correction 494 Origyptian 23-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 463 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:31
Re: correction 574 Thanos5150 23-Dec-16 17:39
Re: correction 572 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 08:13
Re: correction 553 cladking 24-Dec-16 15:18
Re: correction 579 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 16:49
Re: correction 547 cladking 24-Dec-16 17:24
Re: correction 512 Thanos5150 24-Dec-16 16:52
Re: correction 502 Origyptian 24-Dec-16 18:12
Re: correction 583 Martin Stower 24-Dec-16 23:42
Re: correction 600 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 00:51
Re: correction 555 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 01:03
Re: correction 676 DUNE 27-Dec-16 18:09
Re: correction 654 DUNE 30-Dec-16 21:16
Re: correction 639 Thanos5150 30-Dec-16 23:58
Re: correction 760 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-16 07:38
Re: correction 529 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 14:44
Re: correction 542 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 538 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 513 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 530 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 672 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 548 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 709 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 557 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 550 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 513 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 480 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 512 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 593 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 497 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 598 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 571 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 600 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 598 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 532 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 632 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 510 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 511 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 561 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 536 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 532 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 607 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 434 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 567 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 533 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 507 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 474 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 546 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 536 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 506 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 554 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 487 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 498 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 576 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 375 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 547 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 600 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 552 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 603 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 482 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 521 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 522 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 590 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 561 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 600 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 601 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 580 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 453 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 565 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 469 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 583 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 549 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 520 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 593 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 703 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 590 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 580 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 575 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 584 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 615 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 533 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 634 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 683 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 613 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 623 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 603 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 600 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 497 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 590 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 615 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 597 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 619 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 614 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 677 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 618 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 652 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 675 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 554 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 498 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 349 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 428 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 406 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 345 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 417 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 406 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 476 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 369 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 353 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 358 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 350 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 338 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 356 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 436 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 358 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 381 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 371 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 426 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 369 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 364 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 321 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 366 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 344 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 331 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 346 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 354 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 359 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 343 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 420 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 321 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 373 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 358 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 346 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 369 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 382 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 391 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 383 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 367 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 393 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 390 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 364 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 398 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 387 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 401 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 395 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 334 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 371 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 367 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 331 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 381 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 360 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 331 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 394 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 349 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 364 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 371 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 411 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 391 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 353 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 403 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 382 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 396 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 407 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 387 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 360 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 380 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 363 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 408 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 354 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 367 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 370 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 360 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 359 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 330 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 364 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 403 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 398 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 361 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 378 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 376 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 367 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 382 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 490 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 429 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 368 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 383 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 383 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 461 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 425 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 378 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 411 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 400 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 374 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 415 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 350 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 322 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 386 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 387 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 326 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 324 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 419 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 412 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 406 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 374 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 365 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 376 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 415 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 427 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 330 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 347 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 357 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 398 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 386 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 346 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 358 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 376 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 354 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 377 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 387 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 491 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 344 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 376 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 366 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 384 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 457 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 362 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 335 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 350 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 341 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 334 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 346 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 354 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 439 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 412 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 376 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 354 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 387 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 391 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 452 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 356 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 353 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 357 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 337 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 360 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 343 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 358 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 360 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 401 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 326 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 339 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 337 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 318 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 313 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 356 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 304 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 322 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:22
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 363 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 19:15
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 326 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 22:17