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Audrey Wrote:
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> If you did not intend to use the PT's to support
> your viewpoint, then why did you mention them?
> What was your objective in specifying PT's? You
> used them, coffin texts and the Book of the Dead
> in the same paragraph that you began with "Who
> said there were no "verifiable historic
> records"?
You were obviously using the PT's as
> historic records.

Jon:
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Answer me this. Why would anyone in the absence of verifiable historic records assume that the great pyramid of Giza had any religious or spiritual significance? Could it be that the ONLY frame of reference available to them at the time was religious and spiritual? The very same culture that identified fossils of millions of year old extinct species as victims of the great flood. The only frame of reference they had was religion
and the bible, so why not?

Jon is saying that because he believes there are no "historical records" of what a pyramid's function was this led religious antiquarians to impose their Biblical "frame of reference" on the pyramids hence the only reason why today it is believed they had any religious or spiritual significance. This is not true hence my responding:

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Jon: "Answer me this. Why would anyone in the absence of verifiable historic records assume that the great pyramid of Giza had any religious or spiritual significance?"

Me:
Who said there were no "verifiable historic records"? What is it do you think the AE wrote all over their cemetery walls? The cemetery itself isn't a "verifiable historic record"? What is the PT? The Book of the Dead? The Coffin Texts? 3,000yrs of AE writing, architecture, and culture does not count as a "verifiable historic record"? You are woefully uninformed.

And did it not occur to you that despite this absence of "verifiable historic records" this is exactly the significance it had to the AE themselves? Why did they think of it this way? Apparently you do not understand somehow that antiquarians didn't just stumble upon the pyramids one day and make all this stuff up. The PT, for example, was actually written inside of pyramids you know:


Hmmm.

According to the AE, the pyramids, at least in the time of Unas and after, were resurrection machines and served as the engine for the pharaohs cycle of death and rebirth which in general was the foundation of their belief system for thousands of years. We impose this as "religion", and in the true sense of the word it was, but to them this was the reality of the physical world and the afterlife beyond just "faith", and was an integral component of the natural laws of the universe. Before some of your fingers start blindly clacking away to naysay without reading the rest of what is said, regardless of whether the great pyramids were built as "tombs" or not, there is no doubt the AE were convinced the purpose of these pyramids were connected to the afterlife and to facilitate resurrection. No antiquarians required.

A better question to ask- if the great pyramids (or their core structures) were in fact there prior to the OK-what was it about them that made them come to this belief? They would have went inside and seen something that had a profound effect on them that radically changed their outlook on the natural world prompting them to believe that this thing was a "machine" that could facilitate resurrection and their passage through the afterlife. Wonder what it was.

Or, to consider they built them within the Dynastic period-what the hell made them think building these things would work? For the pharoah-a living god who obviously the people knew was just a man. Yet despite the fact they kept getting robbed within decades after completion they just kept doing the same dumb thing over and over again for hundreds of years? Doesn't make much sense, does it?

Jon: "Could it be that the ONLY frame of reference available to them at the time was religious and spiritual? The very same culture that identified fossils of millions of year old extinct species as victims of the great flood. The only frame of reference they had was religion and the bible, so why not?"

Me:
Lol. Uhh....no. See above. And do you think the Bible was also Herodotus's, or any of the other Greek writers, "frame of reference"? Or how about the AE they got this information from? This may be your frame of reference, or antiquarian's frame of reference, but it wasn't the ancient's frame of reference who for thousands of years, right or wrong, also thought they served a funerary function. Again, antiquarians not need apply.

What does any of this have to do with "who built what and when"? Jon doesn't say anything about it. I don't say anything about it. Now lets read and compare Origyptian's response:
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Thanos, when were the PT written and by whom? What's "verifiable" about that? If you can't "verify" who wrote the PT, or that the PT was written at the time of construction, or that the PT accurately reflects events they've been interpreted as describing, then the PT is also irrelevant to the original purpose and date of construction. Are we also to believe the universe was created in 6 days and is only 6000 years old simply because "it was written"?

Now yours:
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? Did the AE write "all over their cemetery walls" of the construction of the pyramids. No, they didn't.
"3,000yrs of AE writing" hold no records of construction.
? How exactly does "architecture, and culture" show a historic record of actual construction.
? Exactly what "significance" did the pyramids have to the AE. Where is this written?
? How do you know what the OK AE thought. How do you know what the builders thought? You presume too much.
? How do you know the PT "actually written inside of pyramids" was written at the time of construction.

Despite the fact you even quote me obviously you did not even read what was originally said and were just going off Origyptian's misguided comments.

I am confident the fault is neither my own nor Jon's here.

[snip]

Stupid is as stupid does.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 17-Dec-16 22:27 by Thanos5150.

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Pyramid Construction 5934 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 06:05
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 736 M. J. Thomas 11-Dec-16 11:10
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 672 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 612 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 615 Jon Ellison 11-Dec-16 12:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 567 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 509 DScribr 11-Dec-16 14:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 575 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 18:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 531 Lee McGiffen 16-Dec-16 10:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 496 DUNE 16-Dec-16 12:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 452 DUNE 16-Dec-16 14:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 559 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 495 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 580 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 540 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 519 sfbey 11-Dec-16 17:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 530 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 383 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 528 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 459 Warwick 11-Dec-16 20:56
Block Construction 495 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:23
Re: Block Construction 517 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:35
Re: Block Construction 519 randompHactor 11-Dec-16 21:53
Re: Block Construction 480 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 523 loveritas 11-Dec-16 22:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 499 DScribr 11-Dec-16 23:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 505 loveritas 12-Dec-16 01:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 506 DScribr 12-Dec-16 14:31
More Sand 523 loveritas 12-Dec-16 22:11
Re: More Sand 504 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:19
Re: More Sand 519 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 00:15
Re: More Sand 485 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:25
Re: More Sand 477 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:03
Re: More Sand 493 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 01:19
Where is the Sand 529 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:00
Re: Where is the Sand 494 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:15
Re: Where is the Sand 485 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:34
Re: More Sand 544 Audrey 13-Dec-16 03:50
Re: More Sand 500 cladking 13-Dec-16 04:43
Re: More Sand 545 Audrey 13-Dec-16 04:55
Re: More Sand 582 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 11:40
Re: More Sand 581 Audrey 14-Dec-16 02:43
Re: More Sand 602 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 10:39
Re: More Sand 497 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:19
Re: More Sand 534 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:03
Re: More Sand 455 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:19
Re: More Sand 534 Audrey 15-Dec-16 05:40
Re: More Sand 450 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 09:50
Re: More Sand 439 DUNE 15-Dec-16 11:35
Re: More Sand 453 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 12:38
Re: More Sand 473 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:10
Re: More Sand 488 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 14:52
Re: More Sand 467 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 14:33
Re: More Sand 431 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:17
Re: More Sand 457 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:35
Re: More Sand 439 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:45
Re: More Sand 490 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 16:02
Re: More Sand 456 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 16:25
Re: More Sand 400 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:00
Re: More Sand 347 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:20
Re: More Sand 479 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:38
Re: More Sand 462 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:48
Re: More Sand 498 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:27
Re: More Sand 444 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 14:41
Re: More Sand 523 DUNE 16-Dec-16 15:38
Re: More Sand 387 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 17:02
Re: More Sand 519 DUNE 16-Dec-16 17:15
Re: More Sand 472 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:12
Re: More Sand 471 DUNE 16-Dec-16 20:04
Re: More Sand 508 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 17:01
Re: More Sand 385 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:33
Chisel Marks Suggest..... 436 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:20
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 503 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:41
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 441 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:49
Re: More Sand 424 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:17
Re: More Sand 476 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 11:43
Popular Posters 536 loveritas 14-Dec-16 10:57
Re: Popular Posters 560 M. J. Thomas 14-Dec-16 13:52
Re: Popular Posters 468 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:18
Presumption Correction 569 loveritas 13-Dec-16 06:35
Re: Presumption Correction 531 Audrey 13-Dec-16 06:38
Re: More Sand 558 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 07:17
Re: More Sand 436 cladking 13-Dec-16 14:46
Re: More Sand 528 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 18:07
Re: More Sand 433 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 19:07
Re: More Sand 485 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:19
Re: More Sand 474 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 02:34
Re: More Sand 502 cladking 14-Dec-16 03:41
Re: More Sand 445 Thanos5150 15-Dec-16 17:39
Re: More Sand 483 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:16
Re: More Sand 459 Audrey 14-Dec-16 03:31
GOT Sand??? 506 DScribr 14-Dec-16 04:06
Re: GOT Sand??? 495 Audrey 14-Dec-16 04:36
Re: GOT brains??? 492 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:16
Re: GOT Sand??? 541 cladking 14-Dec-16 04:51
Who Ya' Gonna Call? 509 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:51
Re: More Sand 386 loveritas 13-Dec-16 01:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 427 Steve Clayton 11-Dec-16 23:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 438 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 00:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 477 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 470 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 470 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 637 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 481 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 446 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 19:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 488 M. J. Thomas 12-Dec-16 11:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 462 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 17:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 479 M. J. Thomas 13-Dec-16 01:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 471 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 531 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 18:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 454 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 18:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 506 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 494 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 455 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 467 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 482 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 17:31
Houdin's most critical error 525 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:17
Re: Houdin's most critical error 441 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 18:52
Re: Houdin's most critical error 511 Warwick 14-Dec-16 19:14
Re: Houdin's most critical error 437 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 21:07
the $64,000.00 Question 474 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:35
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 437 DScribr 16-Dec-16 21:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 476 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 493 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:23
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 461 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 473 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 23:07
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 470 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 11:24
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 490 DUNE 18-Dec-16 12:14
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 457 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 17:05
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 526 DUNE 18-Dec-16 17:51
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 433 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 389 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 19:41
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 426 DUNE 19-Dec-16 21:29
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 372 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 22:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 470 DUNE 19-Dec-16 23:21
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 397 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:56
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 450 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 14:53
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 419 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:17
Where are the Taxonomies? 393 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: Where are the Taxonomies? 428 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:33
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 397 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 444 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 444 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:58
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 443 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:44
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 342 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 17:33
In A Cemetery 434 DScribr 18-Dec-16 20:06
Re: In A Cemetery 428 cladking 18-Dec-16 20:11
Re: In A Cemetery 432 DScribr 18-Dec-16 22:59
Re: In A Cemetery 434 cladking 19-Dec-16 00:52
Re: In A Cemetery 442 DScribr 19-Dec-16 01:32
Re: In A Cemetery 359 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:52
Re: In A Cemetery 450 DScribr 19-Dec-16 03:54
Re: In A Cemetery 496 Thanos5150 19-Dec-16 04:44
Re: In A Cemetery 409 M. J. Thomas 19-Dec-16 17:53
Re: In A Cemetery 416 cladking 19-Dec-16 17:59
Re: In A Cemetery 425 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 18:13
Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 415 DScribr 20-Dec-16 03:50
Re: Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 430 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:34
Re: In A Cemetery 455 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:23
Re: In A Cemetery 402 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:28
Re: In A Cemetery 408 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:52
Re: In A Cemetery 375 Corpuscles 20-Dec-16 11:58
Re: In A Cemetery 359 DUNE 20-Dec-16 15:06
Re: In A Cemetery 413 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:42
Re: In A Cemetery 439 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:49
Re: In A Cemetery 393 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 16:31
Re: In A Cemetery 353 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 16:49
Re: In A Cemetery 417 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:11
Re: In A Cemetery 398 cladking 20-Dec-16 19:46
Re: In A Cemetery 394 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 20:51
Re: In A Cemetery 410 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:56
Re: In A Cemetery 457 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:09
Re: In A Cemetery 394 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 371 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
Re: In A Cemetery 386 Warwick 21-Dec-16 23:01
Re: In A Cemetery 454 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:28
Re: In A Cemetery 361 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:07
Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 422 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 341 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
Re: He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 321 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:35
Re: In A Cemetery 468 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 334 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 445 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 438 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 463 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 468 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 410 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 473 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 412 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 462 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 454 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
Re: In A Cemetery 502 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:01
Re: In A Cemetery 474 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 429 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 345 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 374 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 500 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 461 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 422 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 520 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
Re: In A Cemetery 417 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
Re: In A Cemetery 419 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:49
Re: In A Cemetery 423 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
Re: In A Cemetery 430 cladking 21-Dec-16 14:44
Re: In A Cemetery 197 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-18 20:42
Re: In A Cemetery 340 DScribr 19-Dec-16 23:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 477 Sirius7237 14-Dec-16 23:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 512 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 413 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 03:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 486 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 04:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 443 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 467 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 15:35
Animal Fat for Lube?!? 470 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
Re: Animal Fat for Lube?!? 442 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 17:26
Re: Animal Fat reduces Friction-That's A Fact! 468 DScribr 15-Dec-16 20:13
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 444 Sirius7237 17-Dec-16 22:09
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 468 Steve Clayton 19-Dec-16 02:03
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 614 Sirius7237 19-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 407 Steve Clayton 20-Dec-16 17:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 329 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 433 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 474 cladking 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 457 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 442 cladking 12-Dec-16 15:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 450 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 468 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 442 cladking 12-Dec-16 02:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 427 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
Re: Accretion Layers 413 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 02:14
Re: G3 Exposed 554 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 03:53
Re: G3 Exposed 502 loveritas 12-Dec-16 04:44
Re: G3 Exposed 452 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:15
Re: G3 Exposed 596 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:39
Re: G3 Exposed 497 loveritas 12-Dec-16 06:17
Re: G3 Exposed 399 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:40
Re: G3 Exposed 442 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 545 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 04:02
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 464 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:12
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 480 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:21
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 463 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:38
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 585 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 479 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 400 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 428 DScribr 12-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 453 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 411 cladking 12-Dec-16 18:32
Re: Pyramid Construction 437 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 468 cladking 12-Dec-16 19:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 441 Warwick 12-Dec-16 19:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 390 cladking 12-Dec-16 20:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 427 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 420 cladking 13-Dec-16 20:29
NO 388 Warwick 13-Dec-16 21:54
Re: Pyramid Construction 434 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 455 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 448 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 411 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 465 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 404 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 435 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 454 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 477 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 482 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 370 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 434 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:13
Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 500 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:06
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 447 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:27
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction-Webster's is not...... 432 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 397 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 430 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 420 Warwick 14-Dec-16 20:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 428 cladking 14-Dec-16 20:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 419 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:39
Re: Pyramid Construction 475 cladking 15-Dec-16 01:48
correction 326 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:30
Re: correction 416 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:49
Re: correction 394 Warwick 16-Dec-16 20:05
Re: correction 373 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 20:27
Re: correction 384 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:10
Re: correction 412 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:50
NONE 285 DScribr 16-Dec-16 22:59
Re: correction 395 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:53
Re: 21st Century Westerner v 4th Dyn. Ancient Egyptian 409 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 23:28
Re: correction 441 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 16:20
Re: correction 349 DocKnowles 22-Dec-16 20:22
Re: correction 404 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 21:00
Re: correction 440 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 06:43
Re: correction 376 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 07:43
Re: correction 376 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 10:44
Re: correction 360 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 12:06
Re: correction 387 cladking 23-Dec-16 14:26
Re: correction 384 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 15:41
Re: correction 406 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:13
Re: correction 311 Origyptian 23-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 286 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:31
Re: correction 433 Thanos5150 23-Dec-16 17:39
Re: correction 408 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 08:13
Re: correction 399 cladking 24-Dec-16 15:18
Re: correction 413 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 16:49
Re: correction 356 cladking 24-Dec-16 17:24
Re: correction 339 Thanos5150 24-Dec-16 16:52
Re: correction 339 Origyptian 24-Dec-16 18:12
Re: correction 398 Martin Stower 24-Dec-16 23:42
Re: correction 418 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 00:51
Re: correction 403 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 01:03
Re: correction 516 DUNE 27-Dec-16 18:09
Re: correction 483 DUNE 30-Dec-16 21:16
Re: correction 432 Thanos5150 30-Dec-16 23:58
Re: correction 580 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-16 07:38
Re: correction 352 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 14:44
Re: correction 337 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 357 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 370 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 363 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 502 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 382 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 484 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 362 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 400 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 341 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 307 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 368 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 416 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 346 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 433 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 398 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 413 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 428 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 361 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 436 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 307 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 367 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 412 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 397 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 371 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 410 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 284 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 391 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 364 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 354 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 324 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 350 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 376 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 341 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 383 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 333 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 337 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 407 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 236 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 370 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 427 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 393 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 410 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 307 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 369 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 375 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 397 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 371 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 404 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 401 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 390 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 303 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 408 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 320 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 405 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 390 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 360 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 421 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 527 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 428 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 409 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 415 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 417 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 441 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 351 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 439 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 463 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 414 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 432 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 420 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 415 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 326 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 453 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 441 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 453 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 451 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 471 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 488 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 472 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 505 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 500 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 413 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 317 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 200 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 232 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 218 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 195 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 237 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 238 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 276 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 215 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 197 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 188 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 203 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 173 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 192 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 249 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 198 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 197 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 214 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 239 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 205 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 205 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 182 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 202 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 191 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 191 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 195 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 186 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 189 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 179 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 216 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 190 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 212 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 192 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 196 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 201 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 234 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 212 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 204 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 204 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 225 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 224 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 206 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 230 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 217 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 217 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 205 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 190 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 210 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 190 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 172 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 207 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 200 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 187 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 210 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 206 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 204 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 199 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 229 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 222 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 187 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 206 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 192 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 210 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 219 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 207 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 203 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 213 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 200 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 203 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 213 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 206 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 205 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 197 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 195 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 193 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 203 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 205 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 238 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 201 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 221 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 199 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 206 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 230 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 287 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 236 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 196 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 219 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 222 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 255 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 230 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 214 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 220 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 233 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 211 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 226 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 187 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 183 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 231 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 206 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 180 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 183 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 232 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 206 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 215 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 198 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 219 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 231 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 215 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 208 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 187 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 212 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 204 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 216 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 215 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 196 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 208 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 222 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 200 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 215 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 205 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 279 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 178 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 224 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 201 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 227 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 246 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 199 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 192 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 211 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 188 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 195 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 185 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 214 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 247 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 233 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 195 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 206 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 220 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 249 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 214 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 213 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 207 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 198 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 189 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 206 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 198 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 206 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 203 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 228 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 170 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 185 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 170 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 164 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 164 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 199 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 162 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 170 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:22
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 207 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 19:15