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Audrey Wrote:
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> If you did not intend to use the PT's to support
> your viewpoint, then why did you mention them?
> What was your objective in specifying PT's? You
> used them, coffin texts and the Book of the Dead
> in the same paragraph that you began with "Who
> said there were no "verifiable historic
> records"?
You were obviously using the PT's as
> historic records.

Jon:
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Answer me this. Why would anyone in the absence of verifiable historic records assume that the great pyramid of Giza had any religious or spiritual significance? Could it be that the ONLY frame of reference available to them at the time was religious and spiritual? The very same culture that identified fossils of millions of year old extinct species as victims of the great flood. The only frame of reference they had was religion
and the bible, so why not?

Jon is saying that because he believes there are no "historical records" of what a pyramid's function was this led religious antiquarians to impose their Biblical "frame of reference" on the pyramids hence the only reason why today it is believed they had any religious or spiritual significance. This is not true hence my responding:

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Jon: "Answer me this. Why would anyone in the absence of verifiable historic records assume that the great pyramid of Giza had any religious or spiritual significance?"

Me:
Who said there were no "verifiable historic records"? What is it do you think the AE wrote all over their cemetery walls? The cemetery itself isn't a "verifiable historic record"? What is the PT? The Book of the Dead? The Coffin Texts? 3,000yrs of AE writing, architecture, and culture does not count as a "verifiable historic record"? You are woefully uninformed.

And did it not occur to you that despite this absence of "verifiable historic records" this is exactly the significance it had to the AE themselves? Why did they think of it this way? Apparently you do not understand somehow that antiquarians didn't just stumble upon the pyramids one day and make all this stuff up. The PT, for example, was actually written inside of pyramids you know:


Hmmm.

According to the AE, the pyramids, at least in the time of Unas and after, were resurrection machines and served as the engine for the pharaohs cycle of death and rebirth which in general was the foundation of their belief system for thousands of years. We impose this as "religion", and in the true sense of the word it was, but to them this was the reality of the physical world and the afterlife beyond just "faith", and was an integral component of the natural laws of the universe. Before some of your fingers start blindly clacking away to naysay without reading the rest of what is said, regardless of whether the great pyramids were built as "tombs" or not, there is no doubt the AE were convinced the purpose of these pyramids were connected to the afterlife and to facilitate resurrection. No antiquarians required.

A better question to ask- if the great pyramids (or their core structures) were in fact there prior to the OK-what was it about them that made them come to this belief? They would have went inside and seen something that had a profound effect on them that radically changed their outlook on the natural world prompting them to believe that this thing was a "machine" that could facilitate resurrection and their passage through the afterlife. Wonder what it was.

Or, to consider they built them within the Dynastic period-what the hell made them think building these things would work? For the pharoah-a living god who obviously the people knew was just a man. Yet despite the fact they kept getting robbed within decades after completion they just kept doing the same dumb thing over and over again for hundreds of years? Doesn't make much sense, does it?

Jon: "Could it be that the ONLY frame of reference available to them at the time was religious and spiritual? The very same culture that identified fossils of millions of year old extinct species as victims of the great flood. The only frame of reference they had was religion and the bible, so why not?"

Me:
Lol. Uhh....no. See above. And do you think the Bible was also Herodotus's, or any of the other Greek writers, "frame of reference"? Or how about the AE they got this information from? This may be your frame of reference, or antiquarian's frame of reference, but it wasn't the ancient's frame of reference who for thousands of years, right or wrong, also thought they served a funerary function. Again, antiquarians not need apply.

What does any of this have to do with "who built what and when"? Jon doesn't say anything about it. I don't say anything about it. Now lets read and compare Origyptian's response:
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Thanos, when were the PT written and by whom? What's "verifiable" about that? If you can't "verify" who wrote the PT, or that the PT was written at the time of construction, or that the PT accurately reflects events they've been interpreted as describing, then the PT is also irrelevant to the original purpose and date of construction. Are we also to believe the universe was created in 6 days and is only 6000 years old simply because "it was written"?

Now yours:
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? Did the AE write "all over their cemetery walls" of the construction of the pyramids. No, they didn't.
"3,000yrs of AE writing" hold no records of construction.
? How exactly does "architecture, and culture" show a historic record of actual construction.
? Exactly what "significance" did the pyramids have to the AE. Where is this written?
? How do you know what the OK AE thought. How do you know what the builders thought? You presume too much.
? How do you know the PT "actually written inside of pyramids" was written at the time of construction.

Despite the fact you even quote me obviously you did not even read what was originally said and were just going off Origyptian's misguided comments.

I am confident the fault is neither my own nor Jon's here.

[snip]

Stupid is as stupid does.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 17-Dec-16 22:27 by Thanos5150.

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Pyramid Construction 6074 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 06:05
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 769 M. J. Thomas 11-Dec-16 11:10
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 714 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 645 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 646 Jon Ellison 11-Dec-16 12:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 608 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 543 DScribr 11-Dec-16 14:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 608 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 18:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 561 Lee McGiffen 16-Dec-16 10:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 530 DUNE 16-Dec-16 12:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 483 DUNE 16-Dec-16 14:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 595 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 529 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 615 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 574 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 547 sfbey 11-Dec-16 17:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 566 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 414 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 564 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 487 Warwick 11-Dec-16 20:56
Block Construction 524 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:23
Re: Block Construction 547 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:35
Re: Block Construction 549 randompHactor 11-Dec-16 21:53
Re: Block Construction 511 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 557 loveritas 11-Dec-16 22:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 530 DScribr 11-Dec-16 23:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 538 loveritas 12-Dec-16 01:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 538 DScribr 12-Dec-16 14:31
More Sand 553 loveritas 12-Dec-16 22:11
Re: More Sand 534 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:19
Re: More Sand 554 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 00:15
Re: More Sand 517 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:25
Re: More Sand 511 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:03
Re: More Sand 524 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 01:19
Where is the Sand 562 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:00
Re: Where is the Sand 528 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:15
Re: Where is the Sand 516 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:34
Re: More Sand 577 Audrey 13-Dec-16 03:50
Re: More Sand 527 cladking 13-Dec-16 04:43
Re: More Sand 572 Audrey 13-Dec-16 04:55
Re: More Sand 613 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 11:40
Re: More Sand 622 Audrey 14-Dec-16 02:43
Re: More Sand 632 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 10:39
Re: More Sand 533 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:19
Re: More Sand 565 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:03
Re: More Sand 488 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 03:19
Re: More Sand 573 Audrey 15-Dec-16 05:40
Re: More Sand 480 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 09:50
Re: More Sand 469 DUNE 15-Dec-16 11:35
Re: More Sand 485 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 12:38
Re: More Sand 509 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:10
Re: More Sand 525 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 14:52
Re: More Sand 497 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 14:33
Re: More Sand 463 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:17
Re: More Sand 485 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:35
Re: More Sand 470 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 15:45
Re: More Sand 517 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 16:02
Re: More Sand 482 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 16:25
Re: More Sand 431 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:00
Re: More Sand 377 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:20
Re: More Sand 512 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:38
Re: More Sand 496 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:48
Re: More Sand 531 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:27
Re: More Sand 475 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 14:41
Re: More Sand 550 DUNE 16-Dec-16 15:38
Re: More Sand 417 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 17:02
Re: More Sand 564 DUNE 16-Dec-16 17:15
Re: More Sand 505 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:12
Re: More Sand 502 DUNE 16-Dec-16 20:04
Re: More Sand 540 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 17:01
Re: More Sand 411 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:33
Chisel Marks Suggest..... 468 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:20
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 536 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:41
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 471 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:49
Re: More Sand 456 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:17
Re: More Sand 505 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 11:43
Popular Posters 571 loveritas 14-Dec-16 10:57
Re: Popular Posters 596 M. J. Thomas 14-Dec-16 13:52
Re: Popular Posters 499 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:18
Presumption Correction 612 loveritas 13-Dec-16 06:35
Re: Presumption Correction 566 Audrey 13-Dec-16 06:38
Re: More Sand 591 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 07:17
Re: More Sand 472 cladking 13-Dec-16 14:46
Re: More Sand 561 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 18:07
Re: More Sand 467 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 19:07
Re: More Sand 522 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:19
Re: More Sand 508 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 02:34
Re: More Sand 539 cladking 14-Dec-16 03:41
Re: More Sand 474 Thanos5150 15-Dec-16 17:39
Re: More Sand 522 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:16
Re: More Sand 491 Audrey 14-Dec-16 03:31
GOT Sand??? 542 DScribr 14-Dec-16 04:06
Re: GOT Sand??? 529 Audrey 14-Dec-16 04:36
Re: GOT brains??? 526 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:16
Re: GOT Sand??? 577 cladking 14-Dec-16 04:51
Who Ya' Gonna Call? 546 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:51
Re: More Sand 423 loveritas 13-Dec-16 01:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 460 Steve Clayton 11-Dec-16 23:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 465 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 00:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 511 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 502 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 500 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 676 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 513 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 477 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 19:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 520 M. J. Thomas 12-Dec-16 11:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 491 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 17:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 510 M. J. Thomas 13-Dec-16 01:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 503 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 570 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 18:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 484 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 18:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 541 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 527 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 489 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 500 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 517 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 17:31
Houdin's most critical error 562 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:17
Re: Houdin's most critical error 470 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 18:52
Re: Houdin's most critical error 542 Warwick 14-Dec-16 19:14
Re: Houdin's most critical error 467 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 21:07
the $64,000.00 Question 510 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:35
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 464 DScribr 16-Dec-16 21:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 507 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 523 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:23
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 489 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 514 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 23:07
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 499 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 11:24
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 522 DUNE 18-Dec-16 12:14
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 488 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 17:05
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 561 DUNE 18-Dec-16 17:51
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 464 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 419 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 19:41
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 454 DUNE 19-Dec-16 21:29
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 406 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 22:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 501 DUNE 19-Dec-16 23:21
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 431 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:56
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 487 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 14:53
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 453 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:17
Where are the Taxonomies? 431 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: Where are the Taxonomies? 463 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:33
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 429 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 475 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 472 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:58
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 478 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:44
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 372 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 17:33
In A Cemetery 465 DScribr 18-Dec-16 20:06
Re: In A Cemetery 455 cladking 18-Dec-16 20:11
Re: In A Cemetery 460 DScribr 18-Dec-16 22:59
Re: In A Cemetery 462 cladking 19-Dec-16 00:52
Re: In A Cemetery 473 DScribr 19-Dec-16 01:32
Re: In A Cemetery 387 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:52
Re: In A Cemetery 480 DScribr 19-Dec-16 03:54
Re: In A Cemetery 528 Thanos5150 19-Dec-16 04:44
Re: In A Cemetery 440 M. J. Thomas 19-Dec-16 17:53
Re: In A Cemetery 447 cladking 19-Dec-16 17:59
Re: In A Cemetery 453 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 18:13
Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 448 DScribr 20-Dec-16 03:50
Re: Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 463 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:34
Re: In A Cemetery 483 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:23
Re: In A Cemetery 432 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:28
Re: In A Cemetery 434 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:52
Re: In A Cemetery 404 Corpuscles 20-Dec-16 11:58
Re: In A Cemetery 387 DUNE 20-Dec-16 15:06
Re: In A Cemetery 440 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:42
Re: In A Cemetery 468 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:49
Re: In A Cemetery 420 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 16:31
Re: In A Cemetery 381 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 16:49
Re: In A Cemetery 449 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:11
Re: In A Cemetery 426 cladking 20-Dec-16 19:46
Re: In A Cemetery 423 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 20:51
Re: In A Cemetery 440 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:56
Re: In A Cemetery 498 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:09
Re: In A Cemetery 424 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 405 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
Re: In A Cemetery 412 Warwick 21-Dec-16 23:01
Re: In A Cemetery 485 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:28
Re: In A Cemetery 398 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:07
Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 452 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 370 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
Re: He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 347 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:35
Re: In A Cemetery 497 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 363 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 477 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 471 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 493 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 499 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 443 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 501 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 445 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 493 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 487 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
Re: In A Cemetery 543 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:01
Re: In A Cemetery 506 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 458 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 375 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 402 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 529 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 493 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 452 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 554 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
Re: In A Cemetery 449 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
Re: In A Cemetery 451 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:49
Re: In A Cemetery 455 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
Re: In A Cemetery 463 cladking 21-Dec-16 14:44
Re: In A Cemetery 223 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-18 20:42
Re: In A Cemetery 367 DScribr 19-Dec-16 23:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 513 Sirius7237 14-Dec-16 23:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 551 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 445 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 03:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 517 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 04:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 476 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 506 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 15:35
Animal Fat for Lube?!? 500 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
Re: Animal Fat for Lube?!? 476 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 17:26
Re: Animal Fat reduces Friction-That's A Fact! 503 DScribr 15-Dec-16 20:13
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 479 Sirius7237 17-Dec-16 22:09
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 503 Steve Clayton 19-Dec-16 02:03
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 650 Sirius7237 19-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 447 Steve Clayton 20-Dec-16 17:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 359 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 464 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 505 cladking 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 484 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 473 cladking 12-Dec-16 15:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 481 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 499 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 472 cladking 12-Dec-16 02:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 463 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
Re: Accretion Layers 446 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 02:14
Re: G3 Exposed 588 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 03:53
Re: G3 Exposed 536 loveritas 12-Dec-16 04:44
Re: G3 Exposed 481 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:15
Re: G3 Exposed 638 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:39
Re: G3 Exposed 527 loveritas 12-Dec-16 06:17
Re: G3 Exposed 430 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:40
Re: G3 Exposed 471 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 586 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 04:02
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 496 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:12
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 512 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:21
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 501 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:38
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 632 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 515 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 431 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 459 DScribr 12-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 483 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 441 cladking 12-Dec-16 18:32
Re: Pyramid Construction 467 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 503 cladking 12-Dec-16 19:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 471 Warwick 12-Dec-16 19:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 420 cladking 12-Dec-16 20:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 458 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 448 cladking 13-Dec-16 20:29
NO 422 Warwick 13-Dec-16 21:54
Re: Pyramid Construction 467 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 489 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 479 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 443 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 498 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 434 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 464 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 489 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 508 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 509 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 403 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 464 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:13
Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 534 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:06
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 480 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:27
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction-Webster's is not...... 473 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 429 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 460 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 450 Warwick 14-Dec-16 20:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 460 cladking 14-Dec-16 20:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 454 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:39
Re: Pyramid Construction 504 cladking 15-Dec-16 01:48
correction 355 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:30
Re: correction 444 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:49
Re: correction 426 Warwick 16-Dec-16 20:05
Re: correction 404 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 20:27
Re: correction 414 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:10
Re: correction 446 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:50
NONE 314 DScribr 16-Dec-16 22:59
Re: correction 427 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:53
Re: 21st Century Westerner v 4th Dyn. Ancient Egyptian 440 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 23:28
Re: correction 469 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 16:20
Re: correction 376 DocKnowles 22-Dec-16 20:22
Re: correction 431 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 21:00
Re: correction 472 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 06:43
Re: correction 409 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 07:43
Re: correction 402 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 10:44
Re: correction 387 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 12:06
Re: correction 417 cladking 23-Dec-16 14:26
Re: correction 411 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 15:41
Re: correction 438 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:13
Re: correction 338 Origyptian 23-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 315 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:31
Re: correction 465 Thanos5150 23-Dec-16 17:39
Re: correction 442 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 08:13
Re: correction 430 cladking 24-Dec-16 15:18
Re: correction 451 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 16:49
Re: correction 387 cladking 24-Dec-16 17:24
Re: correction 370 Thanos5150 24-Dec-16 16:52
Re: correction 366 Origyptian 24-Dec-16 18:12
Re: correction 432 Martin Stower 24-Dec-16 23:42
Re: correction 447 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 00:51
Re: correction 429 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 01:03
Re: correction 544 DUNE 27-Dec-16 18:09
Re: correction 515 DUNE 30-Dec-16 21:16
Re: correction 462 Thanos5150 30-Dec-16 23:58
Re: correction 613 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-16 07:38
Re: correction 377 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 14:44
Re: correction 367 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 385 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 398 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 394 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 536 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 413 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 525 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 397 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 431 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 371 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 336 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 398 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 448 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 381 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 464 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 427 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 441 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 456 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 389 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 466 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 336 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 402 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 439 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 425 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 400 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 444 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 316 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 423 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 397 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 386 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 357 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 382 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 404 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 373 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 418 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 363 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 367 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 444 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 263 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 403 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 459 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 424 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 436 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 336 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 404 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 406 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 426 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 402 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 434 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 432 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 419 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 333 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 438 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 349 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 442 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 419 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 392 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 455 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 565 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 459 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 442 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 450 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 449 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 471 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 379 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 473 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 497 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 447 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 464 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 456 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 446 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 359 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 483 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 473 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 482 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 478 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 502 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 520 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 506 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 537 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 530 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 446 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 352 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 227 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 262 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 251 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 225 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 270 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 268 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 311 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 247 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 230 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 222 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 236 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 203 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 222 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 285 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 230 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 230 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 243 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 272 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 236 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 236 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 210 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 235 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 220 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 223 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 227 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 218 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 221 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 208 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 253 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 217 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 238 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 224 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 226 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 234 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 265 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 242 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 231 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 234 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 257 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 257 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 239 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 265 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 250 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 255 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 236 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 218 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 239 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 221 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 201 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 237 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 230 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 215 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 242 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 237 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 235 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 229 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 262 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 257 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 215 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 237 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 223 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 241 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 246 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 242 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 235 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 245 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 231 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 234 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 243 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 234 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 236 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 229 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 225 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 223 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 234 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 239 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 271 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 232 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 253 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 228 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 234 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 266 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 317 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 272 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 226 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 252 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 248 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 284 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 259 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 248 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 251 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 262 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 239 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 259 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 216 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 216 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 261 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 234 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 208 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 211 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 265 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 238 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 245 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 229 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 247 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 261 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 243 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 246 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 215 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 239 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 234 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 252 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 248 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 225 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 239 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 253 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 224 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 243 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 233 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 314 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 208 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 254 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 231 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 259 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 283 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 229 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 222 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 241 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 223 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 227 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 211 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 244 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 278 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 263 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 229 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 238 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 249 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 282 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 243 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 242 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 240 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 223 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 219 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 238 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 229 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 239 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 234 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 257 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 201 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 223 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 198 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 193 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 196 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 232 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 190 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 202 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:22
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 239 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 19:15