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Steve,

Haven't heard back from Dassualt yet but they are a huge corporation based in France and my e-mail is not a priority. They may consider it al lark or something as well but I did pose your objections to them.

I have had a chance to watch Khufu Revisited and mull over though. A couple of observations and please don`t consider me thick I am trying to figure out how an engineers in a software firm could have got it so wrong.

First of all there is definitely a system of rollers under the carriage that contains the counterweight in the GG. That would reduce friction significantly, also, I notice little bumkins lathering lubricant on the pulleys and ropes so I don`t think Dscribr`s idea of animal fat or some other lubricant is far fetched. So already we have relieved some of force required to reset. Also there is a series of ballast stones that run systematically down the ascending passage that the film describes as counterweight to the counterweight. So there would have been more than just manual labour in resetting the counterweight meaning a mechanical advantage.

It also looks like there are ropes leading from the team of 180 stinky-footers to the ramp system carrying the blocks from the storage area as well as to the counterweight. Is it possible that the 180 workers could be pulling on the carriage system for the storage area system at the same time the counterweight is pulling as well. This could easily increase net force on the blocks being lifted by close to double.

Consider also that the GG was at an angle 26 D from horizontal - correct me if I am wrong - then any thing shallower on the opposite would have required significantly less force to move if we take the force on the GG side to be cos26 D*cof*m*g and then add in the force exerted by the bumkins. A shallower angle of attack and a roller system on the storage platform carriage would have imparted even more force working to the systems advantage.

Also, I found the length of the gallery to be 153 ft. rather than the 140 you stated and I am not sure how you calculated the carriage to be 40ft long. That would be over a quarter the length of the gallery and that is not what I am seeing in the movie.

Hope this isn`t nit-picking but just some thoughts on how Houdin might have calculated his system and how the AE might have used other techniques to solve the counterweight problem.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 17-Dec-16 22:10 by Sirius7237.

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Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 816 M. J. Thomas 11-Dec-16 11:10
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Re: Pyramid Construction 647 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 577 DScribr 11-Dec-16 14:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 641 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 18:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 604 Lee McGiffen 16-Dec-16 10:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 564 DUNE 16-Dec-16 12:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 514 DUNE 16-Dec-16 14:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 635 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 563 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 661 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 607 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 586 sfbey 11-Dec-16 17:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 601 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 451 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 645 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 524 Warwick 11-Dec-16 20:56
Block Construction 562 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:23
Re: Block Construction 586 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:35
Re: Block Construction 597 randompHactor 11-Dec-16 21:53
Re: Block Construction 537 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 603 loveritas 11-Dec-16 22:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 586 DScribr 11-Dec-16 23:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 569 loveritas 12-Dec-16 01:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 580 DScribr 12-Dec-16 14:31
More Sand 585 loveritas 12-Dec-16 22:11
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Where is the Sand 598 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:00
Re: Where is the Sand 571 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:15
Re: Where is the Sand 589 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:34
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Re: More Sand 445 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:33
Chisel Marks Suggest..... 522 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:20
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 577 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:41
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 507 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:49
Re: More Sand 502 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:17
Re: More Sand 542 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 11:43
Popular Posters 610 loveritas 14-Dec-16 10:57
Re: Popular Posters 652 M. J. Thomas 14-Dec-16 13:52
Re: Popular Posters 536 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:18
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Re: More Sand 528 Audrey 14-Dec-16 03:31
GOT Sand??? 579 DScribr 14-Dec-16 04:06
Re: GOT Sand??? 567 Audrey 14-Dec-16 04:36
Re: GOT brains??? 567 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:16
Re: GOT Sand??? 638 cladking 14-Dec-16 04:51
Who Ya' Gonna Call? 590 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:51
Re: More Sand 469 loveritas 13-Dec-16 01:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 513 Steve Clayton 11-Dec-16 23:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 504 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 00:48
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Re: Pyramid Construction 567 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 515 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 19:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 564 M. J. Thomas 12-Dec-16 11:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 531 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 17:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 554 M. J. Thomas 13-Dec-16 01:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 534 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 607 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 18:13
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Re: Pyramid Construction 586 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 566 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 528 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 526 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 548 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 17:31
Houdin's most critical error 609 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:17
Re: Houdin's most critical error 507 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 18:52
Re: Houdin's most critical error 587 Warwick 14-Dec-16 19:14
Re: Houdin's most critical error 505 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 21:07
the $64,000.00 Question 561 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:35
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 490 DScribr 16-Dec-16 21:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 548 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 556 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:23
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 529 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 543 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 23:07
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 522 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 11:24
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 565 DUNE 18-Dec-16 12:14
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 520 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 17:05
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 597 DUNE 18-Dec-16 17:51
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 484 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 447 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 19:41
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 476 DUNE 19-Dec-16 21:29
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 428 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 22:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 526 DUNE 19-Dec-16 23:21
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 457 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:56
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 530 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 14:53
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 473 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:17
Where are the Taxonomies? 478 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: Where are the Taxonomies? 505 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:33
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 463 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 508 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 502 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:58
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 511 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:44
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 398 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 17:33
In A Cemetery 498 DScribr 18-Dec-16 20:06
Re: In A Cemetery 498 cladking 18-Dec-16 20:11
Re: In A Cemetery 487 DScribr 18-Dec-16 22:59
Re: In A Cemetery 489 cladking 19-Dec-16 00:52
Re: In A Cemetery 505 DScribr 19-Dec-16 01:32
Re: In A Cemetery 414 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:52
Re: In A Cemetery 518 DScribr 19-Dec-16 03:54
Re: In A Cemetery 562 Thanos5150 19-Dec-16 04:44
Re: In A Cemetery 467 M. J. Thomas 19-Dec-16 17:53
Re: In A Cemetery 470 cladking 19-Dec-16 17:59
Re: In A Cemetery 478 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 18:13
Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 489 DScribr 20-Dec-16 03:50
Re: Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 487 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:34
Re: In A Cemetery 504 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:23
Re: In A Cemetery 459 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:28
Re: In A Cemetery 458 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:52
Re: In A Cemetery 431 Corpuscles 20-Dec-16 11:58
Re: In A Cemetery 420 DUNE 20-Dec-16 15:06
Re: In A Cemetery 465 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:42
Re: In A Cemetery 497 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:49
Re: In A Cemetery 452 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 16:31
Re: In A Cemetery 411 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 16:49
Re: In A Cemetery 471 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:11
Re: In A Cemetery 453 cladking 20-Dec-16 19:46
Re: In A Cemetery 447 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 20:51
Re: In A Cemetery 467 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:56
Re: In A Cemetery 524 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:09
Re: In A Cemetery 451 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 436 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
Re: In A Cemetery 436 Warwick 21-Dec-16 23:01
Re: In A Cemetery 515 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:28
Re: In A Cemetery 431 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:07
Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 489 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 413 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
Re: He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 363 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:35
Re: In A Cemetery 525 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 388 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 502 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 503 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 520 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 527 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 480 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 520 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 489 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 517 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 513 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
Re: In A Cemetery 578 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:01
Re: In A Cemetery 542 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 490 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 406 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 431 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 554 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 523 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 482 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 587 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
Re: In A Cemetery 476 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
Re: In A Cemetery 483 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:49
Re: In A Cemetery 481 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
Re: In A Cemetery 490 cladking 21-Dec-16 14:44
Re: In A Cemetery 253 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-18 20:42
Re: In A Cemetery 398 DScribr 19-Dec-16 23:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 552 Sirius7237 14-Dec-16 23:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 599 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 477 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 03:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 546 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 04:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 522 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 560 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 15:35
Animal Fat for Lube?!? 542 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
Re: Animal Fat for Lube?!? 520 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 17:26
Re: Animal Fat reduces Friction-That's A Fact! 527 DScribr 15-Dec-16 20:13
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 502 Sirius7237 17-Dec-16 22:09
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 533 Steve Clayton 19-Dec-16 02:03
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 678 Sirius7237 19-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 476 Steve Clayton 20-Dec-16 17:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 382 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 487 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 538 cladking 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 521 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 508 cladking 12-Dec-16 15:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 524 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 522 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 505 cladking 12-Dec-16 02:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 489 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
Re: Accretion Layers 470 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 02:14
Re: G3 Exposed 622 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 03:53
Re: G3 Exposed 574 loveritas 12-Dec-16 04:44
Re: G3 Exposed 507 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:15
Re: G3 Exposed 690 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:39
Re: G3 Exposed 567 loveritas 12-Dec-16 06:17
Re: G3 Exposed 466 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:40
Re: G3 Exposed 493 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 632 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 04:02
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 531 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:12
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 547 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:21
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 555 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:38
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 678 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 543 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 460 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 486 DScribr 12-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 509 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 468 cladking 12-Dec-16 18:32
Re: Pyramid Construction 501 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 536 cladking 12-Dec-16 19:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 498 Warwick 12-Dec-16 19:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 442 cladking 12-Dec-16 20:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 483 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 480 cladking 13-Dec-16 20:29
NO 467 Warwick 13-Dec-16 21:54
Re: Pyramid Construction 504 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 522 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 505 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 476 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 542 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 464 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 497 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 518 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 534 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 539 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 426 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 508 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:13
Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 560 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:06
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 504 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:27
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction-Webster's is not...... 511 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 448 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 498 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 471 Warwick 14-Dec-16 20:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 482 cladking 14-Dec-16 20:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 483 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:39
Re: Pyramid Construction 561 cladking 15-Dec-16 01:48
correction 392 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:30
Re: correction 506 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:49
Re: correction 458 Warwick 16-Dec-16 20:05
Re: correction 450 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 20:27
Re: correction 461 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:10
Re: correction 470 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:50
NONE 342 DScribr 16-Dec-16 22:59
Re: correction 457 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:53
Re: 21st Century Westerner v 4th Dyn. Ancient Egyptian 469 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 23:28
Re: correction 493 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 16:20
Re: correction 419 DocKnowles 22-Dec-16 20:22
Re: correction 470 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 21:00
Re: correction 507 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 06:43
Re: correction 449 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 07:43
Re: correction 429 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 10:44
Re: correction 423 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 12:06
Re: correction 444 cladking 23-Dec-16 14:26
Re: correction 454 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 15:41
Re: correction 479 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:13
Re: correction 376 Origyptian 23-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 356 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:31
Re: correction 490 Thanos5150 23-Dec-16 17:39
Re: correction 475 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 08:13
Re: correction 457 cladking 24-Dec-16 15:18
Re: correction 486 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 16:49
Re: correction 425 cladking 24-Dec-16 17:24
Re: correction 422 Thanos5150 24-Dec-16 16:52
Re: correction 400 Origyptian 24-Dec-16 18:12
Re: correction 485 Martin Stower 24-Dec-16 23:42
Re: correction 486 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 00:51
Re: correction 466 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 01:03
Re: correction 584 DUNE 27-Dec-16 18:09
Re: correction 561 DUNE 30-Dec-16 21:16
Re: correction 513 Thanos5150 30-Dec-16 23:58
Re: correction 662 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-16 07:38
Re: correction 428 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 14:44
Re: correction 407 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 427 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 434 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 423 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 581 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 461 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 580 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 442 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 464 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 419 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 373 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 423 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 501 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 413 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 501 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 477 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 487 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 498 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 428 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 509 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 390 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 429 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 464 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 454 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 432 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 490 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 344 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 466 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 439 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 422 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 384 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 419 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 435 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 404 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 463 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 388 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 415 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 472 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 288 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 442 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 502 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 451 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 491 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 374 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 428 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 427 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 477 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 442 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 479 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 494 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 461 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 369 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 470 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 382 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 478 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 453 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 427 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 498 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 604 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 490 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 489 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 483 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 478 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 520 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 410 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 509 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 553 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 495 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 522 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 499 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 494 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 412 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 507 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 526 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 508 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 513 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 527 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 561 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 534 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 569 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 580 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 472 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 392 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 263 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 318 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 304 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 254 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 306 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 312 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 363 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 274 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 263 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 255 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 258 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 228 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 248 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 322 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 262 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 266 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 268 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 303 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 263 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 256 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 235 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 262 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 251 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 244 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 251 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 243 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 251 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 232 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 290 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 236 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 264 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 267 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 257 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 276 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 294 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 275 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 276 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 272 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 297 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 291 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 263 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 297 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 287 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 295 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 298 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 240 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 261 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 254 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 242 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 269 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 265 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 243 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 277 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 266 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 270 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 260 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 299 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 292 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 245 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 279 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 265 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 293 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 286 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 282 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 265 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 275 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 265 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 277 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 270 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 263 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 267 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 270 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 271 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 248 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 269 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 284 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 305 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 260 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 286 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 256 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 266 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 291 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 366 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 327 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 260 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 287 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 286 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 357 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 287 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 281 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 299 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 307 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 270 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 314 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 263 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 238 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 292 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 266 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 240 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 242 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 314 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 263 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 291 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 268 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 273 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 288 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 278 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 296 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 245 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 263 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 258 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 300 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 274 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 251 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 273 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 295 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 262 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 275 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 268 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 370 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 257 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 292 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 264 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 291 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 354 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 265 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 248 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 274 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 255 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 252 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 238 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 273 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 337 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 314 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 271 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 267 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 288 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 305 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 330 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 268 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 259 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 251 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 247 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 264 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 255 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 271 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 266 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 300 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 228 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 252 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 224 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 232 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 221 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 261 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 217 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 229 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:22
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 264 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 19:15
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 246 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 22:17
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 229 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-18 00:04
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 226 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 01:30
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