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Origyptian Wrote:
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> DUNE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Damage to the GG walls and the so called Great
> > Step.
> >
> > As previously said i believe the GG was
> designed
> > to facilitate the movement of stones and other
> > ancillary equipment in the construction of the
> > pyramid , therefore the damaged and other
> markings
> > to the walls are consistent with some sort of
> > machinery operating throughout its length,
> breadth
> > and height .
> > You would also get the odd accident, as any
> > building site does, so could the great step be
> the
> > product of one of those accidents.
> > There are three possible scenarios for the
> damage
> > to the great step.
> > 1. it was a genuine accident where they dropped
> a
> > block from above during construction.
> > 2 it was damaged when whoever opened up that
> > passage to the RC, and let a lump of masonry
> fall
> > onto the step.
> > 3 it was purposely hacked out for some other
> > reason.
> >
> > In view of how the forced entrance into the
> RC's
> > lines up directly over the great step i favour
> > that scenario.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Hi DUNE, I am under the impression that those four
> hollow black arrows in the photo are pointing to
> cement repairs made to seal the holes that
> originally held iron bars that served to support a
> scaffold or ladder assembly for ascending to that
> portal to the RCs at the top of the GG.

Hi Ori

Yes thats a good point, i was thinking they had something to do with the guys who originally hacked out the hole, but of course you may be right that they could have imbedded iron bar supports for a fixed ladder in modern times.
>

> Regarding your point #1, I agree it's possible
> that a large block dropped from a distance might
> be able to cause that kind of damage on the Great
> Step. It's an amazing coincidence that it happened
> to hit the center edge of the Great Step. I'm
> wondering how likely it is that the builders
> wouldn't have tried to smooth it out and/or repair
> it with other smaller block patches in the middle
> of that construction process.

Well , it then implies that this damage was done after all the work was completed , in that no one of any consequence cared about making repairs to the step, it then further suggests the people who broke into the RC were your proverbial Tomb Robbers ,
and like you say , why did they start over that side , only for them to swing right to find the chamber,it therefore supports my 2nd point that a large chunk from above was the cause of the damage, as for the specific shape of the steps damage, granite can shatter in all sorts of different ways , so i would not read to much in how it looked, and don't forget , in the 100's of years that its been open to who knows who,and who knows what amount of chips have been hacked off for souvenir hunters , as we can see how the KC sarcophagus has ended up.


It's equally
> puzzling why the builders wouldn't have covered
> that permanent surface with a protective surface
> during construction. After all, it's not like the
> Great Step was "hidden" like the blocks in the
> RCs, where no humans were thought to ever pass
> through. If anything, the traditional scenario has
> the Great Step in a position of prime real estate
> within the funerary paradigm, and so you'd think
> the builders would have taken steps to protect
> that particular surface just as we'd expect the
> threshold at any grand entrance to be protected
> when moving large, potentially damaging objects
> across it.
>
As i say, i think the damage was done after the pyramid was finished.


> Regarding your point #2, how might such a stone
> have been yanked out of that socket leading to the
> RCs? I am not aware of any chisel marks on the
> surrounding blocks up there that would reveal a
> surface on that block that could be levered out of
> that socket just as we do see such chiseling
> around the other portals to various chambers and
> passages such as leading to the SC, the portal in
> the center of the QC Niche, the entrance to the
> Antechamber from the Great Step, and the south
> wall of the Antechamber leading to the KC. How
> could such a large stone at the top of the GG be
> grabbed and pullled out after it had been
> installed into place and sealed there by the force
> of the blocks above that impinge down on it? If
> the block, itself, was chiseled from the vantage
> point of a makeshift scaffolding or ladder, the
> pieces would be too small to cause such punctate
> damage on the Step.

Well their known method of splitting rock is to drive a wedge into the rock , they may have chisel'd out a channel around the edge and then banged in some wedges on one edge and split of a big chunk, better that way than endless chipping away at it, so a chunk of rock about 16" square would impart quite a force by the time it hit that granite from right up there.



When do you suppose that
> entrance to the RCs was created? For that matter,
> why not just remove the block on the south wall
> that leads directly to the RC rather than remove a
> block on the east wall thereby requiring an
> awkward immediate right turn to be chiseled into
> the masonry?
>
Yea , as i said, probably tomb robbers at a later time, maybe they just got confused with their direction, wasn't their first route the same direction as the Antechamber ?, maybe they forgot the KC was off to the right at the end of that passage ?


> Regarding your point #3, I think that is the most
> likely of your 3 scenarios. I don't think the
> traditional notion that it is simply wear and tear
> from early-day tourists makes any sense. Anyone
> who climbed up the GG clearly would have
> recognized the far easier path was to first step
> onto one of the side benches and then step onto
> the Great Step from the side rather than directly
> onto the center of the Step from the GG floor.
> This point was made very clearly by Morton Edgar.
> Rather, I also don't think that pattern of damage
> is due to ropes during construction. It's too
> erratic and assymetric and not of the organized,
> pre-planned style that represents the quality of
> work done by the original buildres. I think it's
> more likely that the gouge in the Great Step was
> was hacked out by pillagers, possibly during the
> process of removing large and heavy valuable
> materials and/or objects they found in the
> Antechamber and KC.


Surely if there was something so big in the Kings chamber that they wanted to remove, and it required them to enlarged the opening, why do we find the entrance into the Kings chamber untouched ?


DPP

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Re: Pyramid Construction 739 Lee McGiffen 16-Dec-16 10:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 706 DUNE 16-Dec-16 12:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 643 DUNE 16-Dec-16 14:10
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Re: Pyramid Construction 669 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:29
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Re: Pyramid Construction 557 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:25
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Re: Block Construction 656 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 752 loveritas 11-Dec-16 22:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 708 DScribr 11-Dec-16 23:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 674 loveritas 12-Dec-16 01:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 719 DScribr 12-Dec-16 14:31
More Sand 699 loveritas 12-Dec-16 22:11
Re: More Sand 678 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:19
Re: More Sand 695 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 00:15
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Re: Where is the Sand 707 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:34
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Re: More Sand 676 DUNE 16-Dec-16 15:38
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Re: More Sand 670 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:12
Re: More Sand 638 DUNE 16-Dec-16 20:04
Re: More Sand 711 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 17:01
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Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 684 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:41
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 634 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:49
Re: More Sand 625 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:17
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Re: Popular Posters 648 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:18
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Re: More Sand 645 Thanos5150 15-Dec-16 17:39
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Re: More Sand 636 Audrey 14-Dec-16 03:31
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Re: GOT brains??? 688 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:16
Re: GOT Sand??? 789 cladking 14-Dec-16 04:51
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Re: More Sand 582 loveritas 13-Dec-16 01:33
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Re: Pyramid Construction 647 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:19
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Re: Pyramid Construction 897 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 712 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 619 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 19:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 689 M. J. Thomas 12-Dec-16 11:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 683 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 17:24
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Re: Pyramid Construction 656 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 744 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 18:13
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Re: Pyramid Construction 703 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 671 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 649 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 631 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 659 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 17:31
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Re: Houdin's most critical error 645 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 18:52
Re: Houdin's most critical error 733 Warwick 14-Dec-16 19:14
Re: Houdin's most critical error 621 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 21:07
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Re: the $64,000.00 Question 599 DScribr 16-Dec-16 21:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 656 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:03
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Re: Where are the Taxonomies? 625 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:33
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 564 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 628 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 632 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:58
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Re: In A Cemetery 614 cladking 18-Dec-16 20:11
Re: In A Cemetery 631 DScribr 18-Dec-16 22:59
Re: In A Cemetery 593 cladking 19-Dec-16 00:52
Re: In A Cemetery 616 DScribr 19-Dec-16 01:32
Re: In A Cemetery 523 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:52
Re: In A Cemetery 629 DScribr 19-Dec-16 03:54
Re: In A Cemetery 669 Thanos5150 19-Dec-16 04:44
Re: In A Cemetery 575 M. J. Thomas 19-Dec-16 17:53
Re: In A Cemetery 563 cladking 19-Dec-16 17:59
Re: In A Cemetery 577 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 18:13
Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 610 DScribr 20-Dec-16 03:50
Re: Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 586 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:34
Re: In A Cemetery 603 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:23
Re: In A Cemetery 570 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:28
Re: In A Cemetery 558 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:52
Re: In A Cemetery 536 Corpuscles 20-Dec-16 11:58
Re: In A Cemetery 517 DUNE 20-Dec-16 15:06
Re: In A Cemetery 564 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:42
Re: In A Cemetery 595 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:49
Re: In A Cemetery 552 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 16:31
Re: In A Cemetery 506 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 16:49
Re: In A Cemetery 563 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:11
Re: In A Cemetery 554 cladking 20-Dec-16 19:46
Re: In A Cemetery 546 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 20:51
Re: In A Cemetery 577 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:56
Re: In A Cemetery 622 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:09
Re: In A Cemetery 558 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 536 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
Re: In A Cemetery 529 Warwick 21-Dec-16 23:01
Re: In A Cemetery 610 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:28
Re: In A Cemetery 545 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:07
Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 604 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 540 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
Re: He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 457 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:35
Re: In A Cemetery 620 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 501 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 600 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 625 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 622 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 636 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 600 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 616 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 596 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 627 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 613 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
Re: In A Cemetery 686 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:01
Re: In A Cemetery 668 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 586 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 506 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 534 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 650 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 643 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 583 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 688 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
Re: In A Cemetery 569 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
Re: In A Cemetery 606 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:49
Re: In A Cemetery 578 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
Re: In A Cemetery 604 cladking 21-Dec-16 14:44
Re: In A Cemetery 381 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-18 20:42
Re: In A Cemetery 504 DScribr 19-Dec-16 23:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 657 Sirius7237 14-Dec-16 23:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 734 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 592 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 03:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 663 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 04:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 676 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 700 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 15:35
Animal Fat for Lube?!? 674 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
Re: Animal Fat for Lube?!? 638 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 17:26
Re: Animal Fat reduces Friction-That's A Fact! 627 DScribr 15-Dec-16 20:13
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 616 Sirius7237 17-Dec-16 22:09
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 626 Steve Clayton 19-Dec-16 02:03
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 773 Sirius7237 19-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 598 Steve Clayton 20-Dec-16 17:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 482 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 587 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 659 cladking 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 618 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 613 cladking 12-Dec-16 15:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 636 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 633 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 615 cladking 12-Dec-16 02:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 594 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
Re: Accretion Layers 585 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 02:14
Re: G3 Exposed 760 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 03:53
Re: G3 Exposed 665 loveritas 12-Dec-16 04:44
Re: G3 Exposed 605 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:15
Re: G3 Exposed 830 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:39
Re: G3 Exposed 670 loveritas 12-Dec-16 06:17
Re: G3 Exposed 597 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:40
Re: G3 Exposed 592 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 781 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 04:02
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 635 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:12
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Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 656 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:38
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 834 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 656 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 593 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 583 DScribr 12-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 603 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 573 cladking 12-Dec-16 18:32
Re: Pyramid Construction 600 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 630 cladking 12-Dec-16 19:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 605 Warwick 12-Dec-16 19:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 561 cladking 12-Dec-16 20:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 599 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 581 cladking 13-Dec-16 20:29
NO 586 Warwick 13-Dec-16 21:54
Re: Pyramid Construction 616 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 626 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 621 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 578 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 636 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 568 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 631 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 617 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 633 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 639 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 522 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 621 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:13
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Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 600 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:27
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Re: Pyramid Construction 553 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 616 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 566 Warwick 14-Dec-16 20:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 592 cladking 14-Dec-16 20:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 578 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:39
Re: Pyramid Construction 665 cladking 15-Dec-16 01:48
correction 530 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:30
Re: correction 604 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:49
Re: correction 578 Warwick 16-Dec-16 20:05
Re: correction 557 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 20:27
Re: correction 571 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:10
Re: correction 562 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:50
NONE 456 DScribr 16-Dec-16 22:59
Re: correction 574 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:53
Re: 21st Century Westerner v 4th Dyn. Ancient Egyptian 568 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 23:28
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Re: correction 545 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 07:43
Re: correction 543 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 10:44
Re: correction 516 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 12:06
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Re: correction 472 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:31
Re: correction 585 Thanos5150 23-Dec-16 17:39
Re: correction 581 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 08:13
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Re: correction 590 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 16:49
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Re: correction 525 Thanos5150 24-Dec-16 16:52
Re: correction 513 Origyptian 24-Dec-16 18:12
Re: correction 593 Martin Stower 24-Dec-16 23:42
Re: correction 611 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 00:51
Re: correction 568 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 01:03
Re: correction 686 DUNE 27-Dec-16 18:09
Re: correction 665 DUNE 30-Dec-16 21:16
Re: correction 650 Thanos5150 30-Dec-16 23:58
Re: correction 771 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-16 07:38
Re: correction 540 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 14:44
Re: correction 554 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 555 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 523 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 540 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 681 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 558 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 723 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 570 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 561 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 523 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 492 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 523 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 604 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 510 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 609 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 583 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 609 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 610 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 544 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 642 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 520 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 525 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 571 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 547 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 542 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 617 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 443 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 576 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 543 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 518 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 484 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 559 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 548 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 517 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 563 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 501 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 509 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 594 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 386 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 569 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 610 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 562 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 613 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 491 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 532 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 531 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 606 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 572 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 613 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 614 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 597 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 464 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 576 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 478 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 595 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 560 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 535 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 606 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 715 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 610 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 592 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 587 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 596 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 626 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 548 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 652 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 695 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 628 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 635 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 613 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 613 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 509 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 601 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 628 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 610 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 632 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 625 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 691 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 630 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 665 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 688 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 568 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 510 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 365 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 440 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 418 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 357 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 429 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 421 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 496 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 383 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 364 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 370 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 364 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 348 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 370 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 451 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 372 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 391 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 385 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 450 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 385 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 385 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 331 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 377 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 357 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 342 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 358 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 372 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 371 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 361 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 433 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 332 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 389 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 376 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 361 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 382 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 397 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 411 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 403 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 379 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 415 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 406 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 375 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 411 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 409 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 414 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 408 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 345 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 381 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 378 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 344 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 394 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 372 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 347 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 415 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 366 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 376 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 381 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 425 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 406 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 365 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 424 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 394 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 415 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 419 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 399 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 373 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 398 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 377 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 422 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 366 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 379 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 397 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 371 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 380 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 343 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 378 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 417 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 412 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 377 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 391 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 388 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 383 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 398 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 502 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 446 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 384 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 399 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 404 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 472 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 440 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 390 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 428 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 413 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 384 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 431 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 368 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 338 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 404 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 400 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 342 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 337 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 431 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 437 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 421 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 389 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 380 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 395 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 431 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 442 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 342 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 362 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 368 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 420 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 400 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 361 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 369 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 398 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 371 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 394 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 405 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 504 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 358 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 391 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 379 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 400 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 471 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 379 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 353 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 364 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 358 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 348 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 359 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 369 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 450 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 425 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 390 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 372 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 399 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 403 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 468 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 374 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 367 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 371 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 353 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 372 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 363 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 373 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 372 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 420 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 343 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 355 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 350 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 330 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 326 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 370 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 317 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 343 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:22