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Origyptian Wrote:
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> DUNE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Damage to the GG walls and the so called Great
> > Step.
> >
> > As previously said i believe the GG was
> designed
> > to facilitate the movement of stones and other
> > ancillary equipment in the construction of the
> > pyramid , therefore the damaged and other
> markings
> > to the walls are consistent with some sort of
> > machinery operating throughout its length,
> breadth
> > and height .
> > You would also get the odd accident, as any
> > building site does, so could the great step be
> the
> > product of one of those accidents.
> > There are three possible scenarios for the
> damage
> > to the great step.
> > 1. it was a genuine accident where they dropped
> a
> > block from above during construction.
> > 2 it was damaged when whoever opened up that
> > passage to the RC, and let a lump of masonry
> fall
> > onto the step.
> > 3 it was purposely hacked out for some other
> > reason.
> >
> > In view of how the forced entrance into the
> RC's
> > lines up directly over the great step i favour
> > that scenario.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Hi DUNE, I am under the impression that those four
> hollow black arrows in the photo are pointing to
> cement repairs made to seal the holes that
> originally held iron bars that served to support a
> scaffold or ladder assembly for ascending to that
> portal to the RCs at the top of the GG.

Hi Ori

Yes thats a good point, i was thinking they had something to do with the guys who originally hacked out the hole, but of course you may be right that they could have imbedded iron bar supports for a fixed ladder in modern times.
>

> Regarding your point #1, I agree it's possible
> that a large block dropped from a distance might
> be able to cause that kind of damage on the Great
> Step. It's an amazing coincidence that it happened
> to hit the center edge of the Great Step. I'm
> wondering how likely it is that the builders
> wouldn't have tried to smooth it out and/or repair
> it with other smaller block patches in the middle
> of that construction process.

Well , it then implies that this damage was done after all the work was completed , in that no one of any consequence cared about making repairs to the step, it then further suggests the people who broke into the RC were your proverbial Tomb Robbers ,
and like you say , why did they start over that side , only for them to swing right to find the chamber,it therefore supports my 2nd point that a large chunk from above was the cause of the damage, as for the specific shape of the steps damage, granite can shatter in all sorts of different ways , so i would not read to much in how it looked, and don't forget , in the 100's of years that its been open to who knows who,and who knows what amount of chips have been hacked off for souvenir hunters , as we can see how the KC sarcophagus has ended up.


It's equally
> puzzling why the builders wouldn't have covered
> that permanent surface with a protective surface
> during construction. After all, it's not like the
> Great Step was "hidden" like the blocks in the
> RCs, where no humans were thought to ever pass
> through. If anything, the traditional scenario has
> the Great Step in a position of prime real estate
> within the funerary paradigm, and so you'd think
> the builders would have taken steps to protect
> that particular surface just as we'd expect the
> threshold at any grand entrance to be protected
> when moving large, potentially damaging objects
> across it.
>
As i say, i think the damage was done after the pyramid was finished.


> Regarding your point #2, how might such a stone
> have been yanked out of that socket leading to the
> RCs? I am not aware of any chisel marks on the
> surrounding blocks up there that would reveal a
> surface on that block that could be levered out of
> that socket just as we do see such chiseling
> around the other portals to various chambers and
> passages such as leading to the SC, the portal in
> the center of the QC Niche, the entrance to the
> Antechamber from the Great Step, and the south
> wall of the Antechamber leading to the KC. How
> could such a large stone at the top of the GG be
> grabbed and pullled out after it had been
> installed into place and sealed there by the force
> of the blocks above that impinge down on it? If
> the block, itself, was chiseled from the vantage
> point of a makeshift scaffolding or ladder, the
> pieces would be too small to cause such punctate
> damage on the Step.

Well their known method of splitting rock is to drive a wedge into the rock , they may have chisel'd out a channel around the edge and then banged in some wedges on one edge and split of a big chunk, better that way than endless chipping away at it, so a chunk of rock about 16" square would impart quite a force by the time it hit that granite from right up there.



When do you suppose that
> entrance to the RCs was created? For that matter,
> why not just remove the block on the south wall
> that leads directly to the RC rather than remove a
> block on the east wall thereby requiring an
> awkward immediate right turn to be chiseled into
> the masonry?
>
Yea , as i said, probably tomb robbers at a later time, maybe they just got confused with their direction, wasn't their first route the same direction as the Antechamber ?, maybe they forgot the KC was off to the right at the end of that passage ?


> Regarding your point #3, I think that is the most
> likely of your 3 scenarios. I don't think the
> traditional notion that it is simply wear and tear
> from early-day tourists makes any sense. Anyone
> who climbed up the GG clearly would have
> recognized the far easier path was to first step
> onto one of the side benches and then step onto
> the Great Step from the side rather than directly
> onto the center of the Step from the GG floor.
> This point was made very clearly by Morton Edgar.
> Rather, I also don't think that pattern of damage
> is due to ropes during construction. It's too
> erratic and assymetric and not of the organized,
> pre-planned style that represents the quality of
> work done by the original buildres. I think it's
> more likely that the gouge in the Great Step was
> was hacked out by pillagers, possibly during the
> process of removing large and heavy valuable
> materials and/or objects they found in the
> Antechamber and KC.


Surely if there was something so big in the Kings chamber that they wanted to remove, and it required them to enlarged the opening, why do we find the entrance into the Kings chamber untouched ?


DPP

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Re: Pyramid Construction 694 DUNE 16-Dec-16 12:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 629 DUNE 16-Dec-16 14:10
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Re: Pyramid Construction 766 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:15
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Re: Block Construction 644 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 742 loveritas 11-Dec-16 22:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 694 DScribr 11-Dec-16 23:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 662 loveritas 12-Dec-16 01:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 707 DScribr 12-Dec-16 14:31
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Re: More Sand 666 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:19
Re: More Sand 683 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 00:15
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Re: More Sand 678 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 01:19
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Re: More Sand 626 DUNE 16-Dec-16 20:04
Re: More Sand 700 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 17:01
Re: More Sand 562 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:33
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Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 671 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:41
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 623 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:49
Re: More Sand 615 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:17
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Re: Popular Posters 634 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:18
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Re: More Sand 723 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 07:17
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Re: More Sand 632 Thanos5150 15-Dec-16 17:39
Re: More Sand 696 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:16
Re: More Sand 622 Audrey 14-Dec-16 03:31
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Re: GOT Sand??? 709 Audrey 14-Dec-16 04:36
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Re: GOT Sand??? 776 cladking 14-Dec-16 04:51
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Re: Pyramid Construction 650 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 882 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 702 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 608 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 19:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 677 M. J. Thomas 12-Dec-16 11:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 671 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 17:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 672 M. J. Thomas 13-Dec-16 01:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 646 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 732 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 18:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 630 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 18:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 692 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 661 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 636 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 621 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:41
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Re: Houdin's most critical error 721 Warwick 14-Dec-16 19:14
Re: Houdin's most critical error 612 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 21:07
the $64,000.00 Question 688 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:35
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 591 DScribr 16-Dec-16 21:03
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Re: Where are the Taxonomies? 616 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:33
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 556 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 617 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 621 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:58
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In A Cemetery 615 DScribr 18-Dec-16 20:06
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Re: In A Cemetery 620 DScribr 18-Dec-16 22:59
Re: In A Cemetery 584 cladking 19-Dec-16 00:52
Re: In A Cemetery 608 DScribr 19-Dec-16 01:32
Re: In A Cemetery 513 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:52
Re: In A Cemetery 619 DScribr 19-Dec-16 03:54
Re: In A Cemetery 659 Thanos5150 19-Dec-16 04:44
Re: In A Cemetery 565 M. J. Thomas 19-Dec-16 17:53
Re: In A Cemetery 553 cladking 19-Dec-16 17:59
Re: In A Cemetery 568 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 18:13
Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 596 DScribr 20-Dec-16 03:50
Re: Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 576 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:34
Re: In A Cemetery 593 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:23
Re: In A Cemetery 561 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:28
Re: In A Cemetery 549 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:52
Re: In A Cemetery 527 Corpuscles 20-Dec-16 11:58
Re: In A Cemetery 508 DUNE 20-Dec-16 15:06
Re: In A Cemetery 552 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:42
Re: In A Cemetery 582 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:49
Re: In A Cemetery 542 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 16:31
Re: In A Cemetery 496 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 16:49
Re: In A Cemetery 554 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:11
Re: In A Cemetery 544 cladking 20-Dec-16 19:46
Re: In A Cemetery 536 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 20:51
Re: In A Cemetery 563 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:56
Re: In A Cemetery 612 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:09
Re: In A Cemetery 547 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 528 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
Re: In A Cemetery 516 Warwick 21-Dec-16 23:01
Re: In A Cemetery 602 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:28
Re: In A Cemetery 534 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:07
Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 596 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 528 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
Re: He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 448 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:35
Re: In A Cemetery 608 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 491 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 590 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 616 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 611 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 621 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 591 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 606 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 586 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 618 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 603 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
Re: In A Cemetery 675 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:01
Re: In A Cemetery 658 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 576 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 497 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 522 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 640 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 633 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 570 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 680 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
Re: In A Cemetery 561 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
Re: In A Cemetery 596 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:49
Re: In A Cemetery 567 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
Re: In A Cemetery 593 cladking 21-Dec-16 14:44
Re: In A Cemetery 363 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-18 20:42
Re: In A Cemetery 495 DScribr 19-Dec-16 23:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 646 Sirius7237 14-Dec-16 23:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 725 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 582 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 03:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 652 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 04:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 664 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 691 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 15:35
Animal Fat for Lube?!? 664 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
Re: Animal Fat for Lube?!? 626 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 17:26
Re: Animal Fat reduces Friction-That's A Fact! 615 DScribr 15-Dec-16 20:13
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 605 Sirius7237 17-Dec-16 22:09
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 616 Steve Clayton 19-Dec-16 02:03
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 763 Sirius7237 19-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 586 Steve Clayton 20-Dec-16 17:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 472 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 578 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 648 cladking 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 605 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 603 cladking 12-Dec-16 15:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 624 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 625 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 604 cladking 12-Dec-16 02:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 582 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
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Re: G3 Exposed 581 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
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Re: Pyramid Construction 575 DScribr 12-Dec-16 17:28
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Re: Pyramid Construction 594 Warwick 12-Dec-16 19:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 551 cladking 12-Dec-16 20:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 583 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 572 cladking 13-Dec-16 20:29
NO 574 Warwick 13-Dec-16 21:54
Re: Pyramid Construction 606 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 617 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 611 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 569 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 626 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 558 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 621 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 608 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 622 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 630 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 511 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 605 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:13
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Re: Pyramid Construction 583 cladking 14-Dec-16 20:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 568 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:39
Re: Pyramid Construction 656 cladking 15-Dec-16 01:48
correction 511 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:30
Re: correction 596 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:49
Re: correction 567 Warwick 16-Dec-16 20:05
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Re: correction 562 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:10
Re: correction 553 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:50
NONE 444 DScribr 16-Dec-16 22:59
Re: correction 564 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:53
Re: 21st Century Westerner v 4th Dyn. Ancient Egyptian 558 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 23:28
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Re: correction 555 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 01:03
Re: correction 677 DUNE 27-Dec-16 18:09
Re: correction 654 DUNE 30-Dec-16 21:16
Re: correction 641 Thanos5150 30-Dec-16 23:58
Re: correction 762 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-16 07:38
Re: correction 529 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 14:44
Re: correction 543 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 542 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 513 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 531 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 672 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 548 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 711 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 558 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 551 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 514 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 480 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 513 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 594 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 497 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 598 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 572 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 600 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 599 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 533 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 632 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 511 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 512 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 562 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 537 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 533 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 608 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 434 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 567 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 534 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 507 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 474 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 546 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 537 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 506 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 554 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 488 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 498 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 579 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 375 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 553 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 602 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 552 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 603 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 482 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 522 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 522 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 593 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 562 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 601 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 601 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 582 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 455 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 565 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 469 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 584 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 550 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 522 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 595 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 705 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 593 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 582 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 577 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 586 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 616 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 535 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 637 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 684 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 616 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 625 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 605 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 602 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 499 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 591 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 619 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 599 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 623 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 615 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 680 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 619 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 653 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 678 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 556 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 502 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 352 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 430 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 408 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 347 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 420 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 409 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 477 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 371 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 354 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 359 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 351 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 339 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 357 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 438 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 360 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 382 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 373 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 432 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 372 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 368 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 323 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 367 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 346 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 332 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 347 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 358 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 361 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 344 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 422 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 322 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 376 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 360 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 349 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 371 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 385 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 393 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 387 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 369 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 397 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 392 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 365 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 400 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 390 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 403 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 396 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 335 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 372 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 369 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 333 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 383 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 362 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 333 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 397 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 352 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 366 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 372 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 413 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 394 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 354 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 407 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 384 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 397 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 409 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 388 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 363 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 384 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 366 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 409 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 357 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 369 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 373 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 362 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 360 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 332 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 365 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 404 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 400 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 367 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 380 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 378 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 369 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 385 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 494 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 430 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 371 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 384 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 388 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 464 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 427 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 380 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 416 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 403 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 375 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 418 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 353 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 325 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 388 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 390 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 330 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 326 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 420 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 421 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 408 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 377 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 367 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 379 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 418 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 430 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 332 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 348 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 359 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 402 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 387 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 350 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 361 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 380 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 356 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 379 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 390 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 492 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 347 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 378 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 367 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 386 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 460 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 363 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 338 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 351 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 342 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 336 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 348 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 358 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 441 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 414 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 380 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 356 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 390 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 393 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 457 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 358 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 354 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 358 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 338 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 362 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 346 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 361 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 361 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 403 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 327 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 340 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 338 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 319 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 315 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 357 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 307 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 328 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:22