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Origyptian Wrote:
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> DUNE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Damage to the GG walls and the so called Great
> > Step.
> >
> > As previously said i believe the GG was
> designed
> > to facilitate the movement of stones and other
> > ancillary equipment in the construction of the
> > pyramid , therefore the damaged and other
> markings
> > to the walls are consistent with some sort of
> > machinery operating throughout its length,
> breadth
> > and height .
> > You would also get the odd accident, as any
> > building site does, so could the great step be
> the
> > product of one of those accidents.
> > There are three possible scenarios for the
> damage
> > to the great step.
> > 1. it was a genuine accident where they dropped
> a
> > block from above during construction.
> > 2 it was damaged when whoever opened up that
> > passage to the RC, and let a lump of masonry
> fall
> > onto the step.
> > 3 it was purposely hacked out for some other
> > reason.
> >
> > In view of how the forced entrance into the
> RC's
> > lines up directly over the great step i favour
> > that scenario.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Hi DUNE, I am under the impression that those four
> hollow black arrows in the photo are pointing to
> cement repairs made to seal the holes that
> originally held iron bars that served to support a
> scaffold or ladder assembly for ascending to that
> portal to the RCs at the top of the GG.

Hi Ori

Yes thats a good point, i was thinking they had something to do with the guys who originally hacked out the hole, but of course you may be right that they could have imbedded iron bar supports for a fixed ladder in modern times.
>

> Regarding your point #1, I agree it's possible
> that a large block dropped from a distance might
> be able to cause that kind of damage on the Great
> Step. It's an amazing coincidence that it happened
> to hit the center edge of the Great Step. I'm
> wondering how likely it is that the builders
> wouldn't have tried to smooth it out and/or repair
> it with other smaller block patches in the middle
> of that construction process.

Well , it then implies that this damage was done after all the work was completed , in that no one of any consequence cared about making repairs to the step, it then further suggests the people who broke into the RC were your proverbial Tomb Robbers ,
and like you say , why did they start over that side , only for them to swing right to find the chamber,it therefore supports my 2nd point that a large chunk from above was the cause of the damage, as for the specific shape of the steps damage, granite can shatter in all sorts of different ways , so i would not read to much in how it looked, and don't forget , in the 100's of years that its been open to who knows who,and who knows what amount of chips have been hacked off for souvenir hunters , as we can see how the KC sarcophagus has ended up.


It's equally
> puzzling why the builders wouldn't have covered
> that permanent surface with a protective surface
> during construction. After all, it's not like the
> Great Step was "hidden" like the blocks in the
> RCs, where no humans were thought to ever pass
> through. If anything, the traditional scenario has
> the Great Step in a position of prime real estate
> within the funerary paradigm, and so you'd think
> the builders would have taken steps to protect
> that particular surface just as we'd expect the
> threshold at any grand entrance to be protected
> when moving large, potentially damaging objects
> across it.
>
As i say, i think the damage was done after the pyramid was finished.


> Regarding your point #2, how might such a stone
> have been yanked out of that socket leading to the
> RCs? I am not aware of any chisel marks on the
> surrounding blocks up there that would reveal a
> surface on that block that could be levered out of
> that socket just as we do see such chiseling
> around the other portals to various chambers and
> passages such as leading to the SC, the portal in
> the center of the QC Niche, the entrance to the
> Antechamber from the Great Step, and the south
> wall of the Antechamber leading to the KC. How
> could such a large stone at the top of the GG be
> grabbed and pullled out after it had been
> installed into place and sealed there by the force
> of the blocks above that impinge down on it? If
> the block, itself, was chiseled from the vantage
> point of a makeshift scaffolding or ladder, the
> pieces would be too small to cause such punctate
> damage on the Step.

Well their known method of splitting rock is to drive a wedge into the rock , they may have chisel'd out a channel around the edge and then banged in some wedges on one edge and split of a big chunk, better that way than endless chipping away at it, so a chunk of rock about 16" square would impart quite a force by the time it hit that granite from right up there.



When do you suppose that
> entrance to the RCs was created? For that matter,
> why not just remove the block on the south wall
> that leads directly to the RC rather than remove a
> block on the east wall thereby requiring an
> awkward immediate right turn to be chiseled into
> the masonry?
>
Yea , as i said, probably tomb robbers at a later time, maybe they just got confused with their direction, wasn't their first route the same direction as the Antechamber ?, maybe they forgot the KC was off to the right at the end of that passage ?


> Regarding your point #3, I think that is the most
> likely of your 3 scenarios. I don't think the
> traditional notion that it is simply wear and tear
> from early-day tourists makes any sense. Anyone
> who climbed up the GG clearly would have
> recognized the far easier path was to first step
> onto one of the side benches and then step onto
> the Great Step from the side rather than directly
> onto the center of the Step from the GG floor.
> This point was made very clearly by Morton Edgar.
> Rather, I also don't think that pattern of damage
> is due to ropes during construction. It's too
> erratic and assymetric and not of the organized,
> pre-planned style that represents the quality of
> work done by the original buildres. I think it's
> more likely that the gouge in the Great Step was
> was hacked out by pillagers, possibly during the
> process of removing large and heavy valuable
> materials and/or objects they found in the
> Antechamber and KC.


Surely if there was something so big in the Kings chamber that they wanted to remove, and it required them to enlarged the opening, why do we find the entrance into the Kings chamber untouched ?


DPP

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Pyramid Construction 6176 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 06:05
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 784 M. J. Thomas 11-Dec-16 11:10
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 728 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction & Grand Gallery 671 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:03
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Re: Pyramid Construction 620 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 553 DScribr 11-Dec-16 14:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 617 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 18:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 577 Lee McGiffen 16-Dec-16 10:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 539 DUNE 16-Dec-16 12:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 492 DUNE 16-Dec-16 14:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 607 cladking 11-Dec-16 14:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 539 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 632 cladking 11-Dec-16 19:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 584 Thanos5150 11-Dec-16 17:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 559 sfbey 11-Dec-16 17:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 580 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 425 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 585 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 499 Warwick 11-Dec-16 20:56
Block Construction 536 DScribr 11-Dec-16 21:23
Re: Block Construction 561 Warwick 11-Dec-16 21:35
Re: Block Construction 559 randompHactor 11-Dec-16 21:53
Re: Block Construction 522 DScribr 11-Dec-16 22:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 571 loveritas 11-Dec-16 22:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 541 DScribr 11-Dec-16 23:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 547 loveritas 12-Dec-16 01:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 547 DScribr 12-Dec-16 14:31
More Sand 563 loveritas 12-Dec-16 22:11
Re: More Sand 543 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:19
Re: More Sand 562 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 00:15
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Re: More Sand 536 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 01:19
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Re: Where is the Sand 543 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:34
Re: More Sand 590 Audrey 13-Dec-16 03:50
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Re: More Sand 519 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:10
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Re: More Sand 493 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 16:25
Re: More Sand 440 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:00
Re: More Sand 387 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:20
Re: More Sand 523 DUNE 15-Dec-16 17:38
Re: More Sand 506 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:48
Re: More Sand 541 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:27
Re: More Sand 486 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 14:41
Re: More Sand 562 DUNE 16-Dec-16 15:38
Re: More Sand 440 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 17:02
Re: More Sand 578 DUNE 16-Dec-16 17:15
Re: More Sand 517 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:12
Re: More Sand 513 DUNE 16-Dec-16 20:04
Re: More Sand 551 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 17:01
Re: More Sand 420 Jon Ellison 15-Dec-16 17:33
Chisel Marks Suggest..... 485 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:20
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 551 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 15:41
Re: Chisel Marks Suggest..... 482 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:49
Re: More Sand 466 Audrey 16-Dec-16 06:17
Re: More Sand 521 Jon Ellison 14-Dec-16 11:43
Popular Posters 583 loveritas 14-Dec-16 10:57
Re: Popular Posters 624 M. J. Thomas 14-Dec-16 13:52
Re: Popular Posters 512 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:18
Presumption Correction 628 loveritas 13-Dec-16 06:35
Re: Presumption Correction 584 Audrey 13-Dec-16 06:38
Re: More Sand 605 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 07:17
Re: More Sand 494 cladking 13-Dec-16 14:46
Re: More Sand 569 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 18:07
Re: More Sand 485 Thanos5150 13-Dec-16 19:07
Re: More Sand 538 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:19
Re: More Sand 519 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 02:34
Re: More Sand 554 cladking 14-Dec-16 03:41
Re: More Sand 489 Thanos5150 15-Dec-16 17:39
Re: More Sand 551 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:16
Re: More Sand 504 Audrey 14-Dec-16 03:31
GOT Sand??? 555 DScribr 14-Dec-16 04:06
Re: GOT Sand??? 543 Audrey 14-Dec-16 04:36
Re: GOT brains??? 537 DScribr 14-Dec-16 15:16
Re: GOT Sand??? 604 cladking 14-Dec-16 04:51
Who Ya' Gonna Call? 564 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:51
Re: More Sand 435 loveritas 13-Dec-16 01:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 488 Steve Clayton 11-Dec-16 23:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 475 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 00:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 527 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 514 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 515 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 693 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 529 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 490 Thanos5150 14-Dec-16 19:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 534 M. J. Thomas 12-Dec-16 11:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 503 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 17:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 522 M. J. Thomas 13-Dec-16 01:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 514 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 580 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 18:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 495 Jon Ellison 13-Dec-16 18:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 552 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 540 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 509 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 509 Sirius7237 13-Dec-16 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 532 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 17:31
Houdin's most critical error 577 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:17
Re: Houdin's most critical error 481 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 18:52
Re: Houdin's most critical error 558 Warwick 14-Dec-16 19:14
Re: Houdin's most critical error 477 Origyptian 15-Dec-16 21:07
the $64,000.00 Question 529 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:35
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 473 DScribr 16-Dec-16 21:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 525 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:03
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 536 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:23
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 507 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question 527 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 23:07
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 507 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 11:24
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 541 DUNE 18-Dec-16 12:14
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 500 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 17:05
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 575 DUNE 18-Dec-16 17:51
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 472 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 432 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 19:41
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Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 414 Jon Ellison 19-Dec-16 22:47
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 513 DUNE 19-Dec-16 23:21
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 441 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:56
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 496 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 14:53
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 460 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:17
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Re: Where are the Taxonomies? 481 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:33
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 442 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 16:26
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 488 cladking 18-Dec-16 16:43
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 484 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:58
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 493 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 16:44
Re: the $64,000.00 Question . . . PLUS 382 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 17:33
In A Cemetery 476 DScribr 18-Dec-16 20:06
Re: In A Cemetery 474 cladking 18-Dec-16 20:11
Re: In A Cemetery 467 DScribr 18-Dec-16 22:59
Re: In A Cemetery 471 cladking 19-Dec-16 00:52
Re: In A Cemetery 485 DScribr 19-Dec-16 01:32
Re: In A Cemetery 397 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 01:52
Re: In A Cemetery 499 DScribr 19-Dec-16 03:54
Re: In A Cemetery 539 Thanos5150 19-Dec-16 04:44
Re: In A Cemetery 448 M. J. Thomas 19-Dec-16 17:53
Re: In A Cemetery 455 cladking 19-Dec-16 17:59
Re: In A Cemetery 461 Origyptian 19-Dec-16 18:13
Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 465 DScribr 20-Dec-16 03:50
Re: Yes, Buried In A Cemetery 472 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:34
Re: In A Cemetery 491 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:23
Re: In A Cemetery 444 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 11:28
Re: In A Cemetery 445 M. J. Thomas 20-Dec-16 11:52
Re: In A Cemetery 413 Corpuscles 20-Dec-16 11:58
Re: In A Cemetery 407 DUNE 20-Dec-16 15:06
Re: In A Cemetery 449 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:42
Re: In A Cemetery 480 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 15:49
Re: In A Cemetery 430 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 16:31
Re: In A Cemetery 396 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 16:49
Re: In A Cemetery 457 Jon Ellison 20-Dec-16 17:11
Re: In A Cemetery 434 cladking 20-Dec-16 19:46
Re: In A Cemetery 434 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 20:51
Re: In A Cemetery 450 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:56
Re: In A Cemetery 511 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:09
Re: In A Cemetery 433 Warwick 20-Dec-16 21:15
Re: In A Cemetery 419 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:42
Re: In A Cemetery 421 Warwick 21-Dec-16 23:01
Re: In A Cemetery 500 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:28
Re: In A Cemetery 411 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:07
Re: Why was the Egyptologist so depressed? 469 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:58
He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 392 cladking 21-Dec-16 20:27
Re: He just wasn't getting enough FUNicular... 353 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:35
Re: In A Cemetery 510 Thanos5150 20-Dec-16 21:44
Re: In A Cemetery 370 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:13
Re: In A Cemetery 487 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 00:02
Re: In A Cemetery 485 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 01:24
Re: In A Cemetery 503 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 01:55
Re: In A Cemetery 512 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:52
Enough et als to build a pyramid. 460 cladking 21-Dec-16 03:06
Re: In A Cemetery 507 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 03:15
Re: In A Cemetery 460 Audrey 21-Dec-16 04:50
Re: In A Cemetery 502 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:02
sidebar 497 Warwick 21-Dec-16 21:16
Re: In A Cemetery 559 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:01
Re: In A Cemetery 520 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 07:16
Re: In A Cemetery 475 Corpuscles 21-Dec-16 12:00
Re: In A Cemetery 386 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 13:39
Re: In A Cemetery 413 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 13:54
Re: In A Cemetery 536 DUNE 21-Dec-16 15:55
Re: In A Cemetery 505 Thunderbird 21-Dec-16 17:48
Re: In A Cemetery 464 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 22:33
Re: In A Cemetery 567 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 22:02
Re: In A Cemetery 460 Warwick 21-Dec-16 22:11
Re: In A Cemetery 464 Audrey 21-Dec-16 02:49
Re: In A Cemetery 465 M. J. Thomas 21-Dec-16 06:02
Re: In A Cemetery 474 cladking 21-Dec-16 14:44
Re: In A Cemetery 235 Steve Clayton 30-Mar-18 20:42
Re: In A Cemetery 378 DScribr 19-Dec-16 23:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 527 Sirius7237 14-Dec-16 23:27
Re: Pyramid Construction 562 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 454 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 03:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 526 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 04:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 489 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 13:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 519 Sirius7237 15-Dec-16 15:35
Animal Fat for Lube?!? 510 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:48
Re: Animal Fat for Lube?!? 491 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 17:26
Re: Animal Fat reduces Friction-That's A Fact! 513 DScribr 15-Dec-16 20:13
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 489 Sirius7237 17-Dec-16 22:09
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 518 Steve Clayton 19-Dec-16 02:03
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 664 Sirius7237 19-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 458 Steve Clayton 20-Dec-16 17:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 368 Sirius7237 21-Dec-16 02:56
Re: Counterweights and counterthoughts 472 Steve Clayton 21-Dec-16 18:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 516 cladking 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 493 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:29
Re: Pyramid Construction 484 cladking 12-Dec-16 15:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 490 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 01:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 508 Sirius7237 12-Dec-16 05:57
Re: Pyramid Construction 491 cladking 12-Dec-16 02:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 473 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 01:26
Re: Accretion Layers 456 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 02:14
Re: G3 Exposed 604 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 03:53
Re: G3 Exposed 550 loveritas 12-Dec-16 04:44
Re: G3 Exposed 490 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:15
Re: G3 Exposed 662 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:39
Re: G3 Exposed 544 loveritas 12-Dec-16 06:17
Re: G3 Exposed 439 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 15:40
Re: G3 Exposed 479 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:40
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 608 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 04:02
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 507 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:12
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 520 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 05:21
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 532 loveritas 12-Dec-16 05:38
Re: Detail of Queen's Pyramids 653 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 530 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 14:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 443 Thanos5150 12-Dec-16 16:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 470 DScribr 12-Dec-16 17:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 494 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 452 cladking 12-Dec-16 18:32
Re: Pyramid Construction 484 Warwick 12-Dec-16 18:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 515 cladking 12-Dec-16 19:18
Re: Pyramid Construction 479 Warwick 12-Dec-16 19:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 427 cladking 12-Dec-16 20:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 467 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 460 cladking 13-Dec-16 20:29
NO 432 Warwick 13-Dec-16 21:54
Re: Pyramid Construction 478 cladking 13-Dec-16 21:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 501 Warwick 14-Dec-16 18:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 489 cladking 14-Dec-16 18:52
While Egyptology fiddles... 454 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:32
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 521 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 445 cladking 16-Dec-16 20:22
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 482 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:48
Re: While Egyptology fiddles... 497 cladking 16-Dec-16 23:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 517 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 521 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 411 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 474 cladking 12-Dec-16 23:13
Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 543 DScribr 13-Dec-16 01:06
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction 492 cladking 13-Dec-16 02:27
Re: Mind-reading a means of Sentence (Re)Construction-Webster's is not...... 485 DScribr 13-Dec-16 03:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 436 Steve Clayton 14-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 469 cladking 14-Dec-16 19:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 457 Warwick 14-Dec-16 20:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 468 cladking 14-Dec-16 20:40
Re: Pyramid Construction 466 Audrey 15-Dec-16 01:39
Re: Pyramid Construction 524 cladking 15-Dec-16 01:48
correction 367 Warwick 16-Dec-16 19:30
Re: correction 465 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 19:49
Re: correction 441 Warwick 16-Dec-16 20:05
Re: correction 423 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 20:27
Re: correction 435 Warwick 16-Dec-16 22:10
Re: correction 457 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:50
NONE 323 DScribr 16-Dec-16 22:59
Re: correction 440 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:53
Re: 21st Century Westerner v 4th Dyn. Ancient Egyptian 453 M. J. Thomas 18-Dec-16 23:28
Re: correction 479 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 16:20
Re: correction 399 DocKnowles 22-Dec-16 20:22
Re: correction 452 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 21:00
Re: correction 494 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 06:43
Re: correction 431 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 07:43
Re: correction 411 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 10:44
Re: correction 402 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 12:06
Re: correction 430 cladking 23-Dec-16 14:26
Re: correction 428 eyeofhorus33 23-Dec-16 15:41
Re: correction 461 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:13
Re: correction 351 Origyptian 23-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 333 cladking 23-Dec-16 17:31
Re: correction 473 Thanos5150 23-Dec-16 17:39
Re: correction 455 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 08:13
Re: correction 441 cladking 24-Dec-16 15:18
Re: correction 466 eyeofhorus33 24-Dec-16 16:49
Re: correction 401 cladking 24-Dec-16 17:24
Re: correction 377 Thanos5150 24-Dec-16 16:52
Re: correction 379 Origyptian 24-Dec-16 18:12
Re: correction 448 Martin Stower 24-Dec-16 23:42
Re: correction 463 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 00:51
Re: correction 443 Thanos5150 25-Dec-16 01:03
Re: correction 559 DUNE 27-Dec-16 18:09
Re: correction 532 DUNE 30-Dec-16 21:16
Re: correction 476 Thanos5150 30-Dec-16 23:58
Re: correction 636 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-16 07:38
Re: correction 400 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 14:44
Re: correction 383 DocKnowles 23-Dec-16 20:39
Re: correction 404 Martin Stower 23-Dec-16 22:02
Re: correction 409 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 21:42
Re: correction 405 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 22:24
Re: correction 560 Origyptian 16-Dec-16 22:38
Re: correction 424 Jon Ellison 16-Dec-16 23:00
Re: correction 551 Thanos5150 16-Dec-16 23:32
Re: correction 406 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 00:46
Re: correction 445 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 05:28
Re: correction 388 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 06:02
Re: correction 352 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:31
Re: correction 407 Audrey 17-Dec-16 07:07
Re: correction 462 DUNE 17-Dec-16 11:16
Re: correction 397 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:39
Re: correction 479 DUNE 17-Dec-16 16:48
Re: correction 447 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 17:00
Block Removal 459 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:25
Re: correction 473 Jon Ellison 17-Dec-16 12:36
Re: correction 405 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 15:08
Re: correction 483 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 13:56
Egypto-illogic. 355 cladking 17-Dec-16 15:32
Re: Egypto-illogic. 412 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 16:41
Ori-illogic. 446 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:12
Re: Egypto-illogic. 438 cladking 17-Dec-16 17:38
Got Shovels? 413 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:30
Reality-what a concept 461 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:09
Re: correction 328 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 18:26
Re: correction 440 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 19:14
Re: correction 413 cladking 17-Dec-16 19:37
Re: correction 400 Audrey 17-Dec-16 20:14
Modern Gods! 367 cladking 17-Dec-16 20:55
Re: correction 395 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 22:27
Birds Of A Feather 414 DScribr 17-Dec-16 22:30
Re: correction 385 Origyptian 18-Dec-16 00:37
Re: correction 436 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:35
Re: correction 373 Thanos5150 18-Dec-16 02:29
Re: correction 394 Audrey 18-Dec-16 01:21
Re: correction 459 cladking 18-Dec-16 02:03
Re: correction 272 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:45
Re: correction 422 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:28
Re: correction 476 Thanos5150 17-Dec-16 06:50
Re: correction 437 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 14:45
"We" have no objective reason to believe..... 456 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:16
Re: correction 354 cladking 17-Dec-16 14:51
Post o' the week! 412 DScribr 17-Dec-16 16:04
Re: Post o' the week! 415 cladking 17-Dec-16 16:11
Same Old Logic 443 DScribr 17-Dec-16 17:00
Re: correction 418 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:33
Re: correction 452 Origyptian 17-Dec-16 05:43
Not cropped, 'enhanced.' 455 DScribr 17-Dec-16 02:10
Re: correction 438 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:45
Re: correction 353 Audrey 17-Dec-16 03:40
Re: correction 451 Warwick 20-Dec-16 20:28
Re: correction 365 cladking 20-Dec-16 21:37
Re: correction 459 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 22:08
Re: correction 431 Origyptian 20-Dec-16 21:47
Ducks in a barrel 411 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:50
Re: Ducks in a barrel 469 Thanos5150 21-Dec-16 21:15
Re: Ducks in a barrel 582 Origyptian 22-Dec-16 05:15
Re: correction 470 Martin Stower 22-Dec-16 01:14
Re: correction 462 Audrey 21-Dec-16 01:54
Good Grief!!! 463 Warwick 21-Dec-16 20:32
Re: Good Grief!!! 459 Origyptian 21-Dec-16 23:04
Clueless 497 eyeofhorus33 21-Dec-16 23:24
Re: Clueless 393 Audrey 22-Dec-16 02:08
Re: Good Grief!!! 491 Martin Stower 21-Dec-16 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 518 Steve Clayton 15-Dec-16 02:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 464 cladking 15-Dec-16 04:00
The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 491 DScribr 15-Dec-16 04:54
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 477 cladking 15-Dec-16 05:15
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 464 DScribr 15-Dec-16 15:22
Re: The AE HAD Air Conditioning!!! 373 cladking 15-Dec-16 17:08
thank you for the opportunity 491 Warwick 13-Dec-16 19:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 498 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:31
It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 490 cladking 12-Dec-16 21:03
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 491 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 22:32
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 513 cladking 12-Dec-16 22:58
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 534 Steve Clayton 13-Dec-16 00:09
Re: It wasn't hard, it was funicular! 515 cladking 13-Dec-16 00:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 550 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 20:24
Re: Pyramid Construction 552 Steve Clayton 12-Dec-16 19:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 456 DocKnowles 18-Dec-16 09:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 368 Thanos5150 02-Mar-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 246 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 274 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 17:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 261 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 237 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 01:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 283 Audrey 03-Mar-18 03:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 288 cladking 03-Mar-18 04:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 329 Audrey 03-Mar-18 07:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 258 cladking 03-Mar-18 14:44
Re: Pyramid Construction 248 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 237 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 243 Audrey 05-Mar-18 00:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 211 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 235 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 03:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 302 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 13:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 248 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 246 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 253 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 21:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 285 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 04:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 245 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 17:11
Re: Pyramid Construction 243 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 17:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 218 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 247 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 22:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 233 Audrey 03-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 231 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 238 Audrey 04-Mar-18 22:10
Re: Pyramid Construction 227 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:50
Re: Pyramid Construction 231 cladking 04-Mar-18 23:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 215 Thanos5150 03-Mar-18 21:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 266 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 23:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 224 Thanos5150 04-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 247 Audrey 04-Mar-18 21:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 240 DUNE 04-Mar-18 22:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 240 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 02:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 255 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 277 cladking 05-Mar-18 05:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 253 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 02:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 257 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 256 Thanos5150 05-Mar-18 18:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 271 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 18:30
Re: Pyramid Construction 271 Warwick 06-Mar-18 00:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 249 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 04:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 278 Warwick 06-Mar-18 04:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 269 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 14:33
Riposte 267 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:27
Re: Riposte 267 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 16:37
Re: Riposte 228 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:54
Re: Riposte 248 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:15
Re: Riposte 240 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:18
Re: Riposte 222 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 19:30
coup de grace 250 Warwick 06-Mar-18 20:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 249 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 17:37
Re: Pyramid Construction 227 cladking 04-Mar-18 17:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 255 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 18:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 248 DUNE 04-Mar-18 19:06
Re: Pyramid Construction 246 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 245 cladking 04-Mar-18 21:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 280 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 20:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 270 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 20:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 228 Origyptian 04-Mar-18 21:28
Re: Pyramid Construction 253 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 22:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 242 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 02:13
Re: Pyramid Construction 258 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 266 Steve Clayton 04-Mar-18 23:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 256 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 251 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:20
Re: Pyramid Construction 258 cladking 05-Mar-18 02:17
Re: Pyramid Construction 243 Steve Clayton 05-Mar-18 19:19
Re: Pyramid Construction 250 Origyptian 05-Mar-18 19:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 256 cladking 05-Mar-18 20:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 245 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:14
Re: Pyramid Construction 249 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:02
Re: Pyramid Construction 240 cladking 06-Mar-18 19:58
Re: Pyramid Construction 238 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 21:43
Re: Pyramid Construction 233 cladking 06-Mar-18 22:03
Re: Pyramid Construction 253 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:07
Re: Pyramid Construction 256 Corpuscles 07-Mar-18 00:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 288 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 02:08
Re: Pyramid Construction 241 cladking 04-Mar-18 20:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 269 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 241 Steve Clayton 11-Mar-18 00:33
Re: Pyramid Construction 250 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 275 warleb 11-Mar-18 00:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 344 Origyptian 11-Mar-18 14:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 294 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 22:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 240 Jon Ellison 25-Mar-18 22:34
Re: Pyramid Construction 266 Barbelo 25-Mar-18 22:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 263 Thanos5150 25-Mar-18 23:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 316 Barbelo 26-Mar-18 03:55
Re: Pyramid Construction 272 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 04:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 261 Barbelo 27-Mar-18 10:48
Re: Pyramid Construction 267 Origyptian 27-Mar-18 15:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 274 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 22:35
Re: Pyramid Construction 253 Thanos5150 27-Mar-18 23:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 294 cladking 28-Mar-18 00:25
Re: Pyramid Construction 234 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Pyramid Construction 223 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 03:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 274 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Pyramid Construction 247 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 13:16
Re: Pyramid Construction 225 Steve Clayton 28-Mar-18 17:51
Re: Pyramid Construction 229 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 18:36
Re: Dashur Ancient Harbor 287 Thunderbird 28-Mar-18 20:36
Re: Pyramid Construction 250 Thanos5150 28-Mar-18 20:41
Re: Pyramid Construction 268 Origyptian 28-Mar-18 21:53
Re: Pyramid Construction 243 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 00:22
Re: Pyramid Construction 257 Origyptian 29-Mar-18 05:01
Re: Pyramid Construction 273 Thanos5150 29-Mar-18 16:52
Re: Pyramid Construction 255 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 14:05
Re: Pyramid Construction 262 Thanos5150 30-Mar-18 16:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 228 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 248 Origyptian 30-Mar-18 17:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 243 Eddie Larry 30-Mar-18 17:47
Re: Pyramid Construction 276 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:46
Re: Pyramid Construction 260 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 00:01
Where Are The Palaces? 234 Barbelo 31-Mar-18 00:26
Re: Where Are The Palaces? 255 Origyptian 31-Mar-18 04:38
Re: Pyramid Construction 276 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 04:45
Re: Pyramid Construction 245 Thanos5150 31-Mar-18 16:42
Re: Pyramid Construction 259 Eddie Larry 31-Mar-18 17:12
Re: Pyramid Construction 245 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 03:04
Re: Pyramid Construction 322 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 06:00
Re: Pyramid Construction 217 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 15:55
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 269 Thunderbird 05-Apr-18 18:52
Re: Manetho...David Rohl.....both wrong : ) 240 Eddie Larry 05-Apr-18 21:09
Re: Pyramid Construction 271 Corpuscles 05-Apr-18 22:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 294 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 04:50
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 246 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 12:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 232 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 259 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 18:21
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 236 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 19:01
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 235 Thunderbird 06-Apr-18 19:12
Archaeology vs Archaeology 220 Barbelo 06-Apr-18 20:13
Re: Peer Review and the Cat who is never wrong : ) 255 Eddie Larry 06-Apr-18 21:15
Re: Pyramid Construction 299 Steve Clayton 02-Apr-18 23:49
Re: Pyramid Construction 276 Thanos5150 03-Apr-18 17:26
Re: Pyramid Construction 249 Steve Clayton 05-Apr-18 00:39
Constructors’ Physique Assumption 250 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Apr-18 19:08
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 264 Origyptian 04-Apr-18 01:54
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 292 Dr. Troglodyte 04-Apr-18 14:24
Re: Constructors’ Physique Assumption 269 Steve Clayton 04-Apr-18 23:21
Means & Methods Assumptions 253 Dr. Troglodyte 05-Apr-18 15:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 247 Origyptian 05-Apr-18 21:13
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 235 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:45
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 231 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:01
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 250 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:42
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 241 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Apr-18 00:05
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 250 Origyptian 06-Apr-18 19:34
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 247 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 03:48
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 270 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 05:53
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 212 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:51
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 236 Thanos5150 07-Apr-18 21:36
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 209 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 23:32
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 217 Thanos5150 08-Apr-18 02:50
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 208 Steve Clayton 08-Apr-18 02:57
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 241 Dr. Troglodyte 07-Apr-18 13:58
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 203 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:07
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions 212 Steve Clayton 07-Apr-18 18:22
Re: Means & Methods Assumptions