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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Very well, let's say that just ONE stone, made of
> granite, weighing 80 tons was quarried,
> transported 600 miles from Aswan, shaped, lifted
> 160' (to the KC) and positioned with great
> precision (virtually undetectable joint with
> adjacent stones. How on earth was that done by the
> OK?

Good question. If history had no mysteries I would not have spent the last 25yrs of my life traveling all over the world and researching these sites let alone waste my time here.

> Now, let's consider that your citation claims:
> "For the King's chamber granite blocks weighting
> 40 to 50 tons were used". Specifically, Aswan
> granite. How on earth was that done by the
> OK?

Ditto.

> Now more realistically the traditional
> narrative would have us believe that many dozens
> of granite blocks comprising the Antechamber,
> King's Chamber, and Relieving Chambers, most of
> which are 50-80 tons, shipped from Aswan 600 miles
> to the south, and positioned with great precision
> up there at 160+ feet without access to iron, the
> wheel, the pulley, or turnbuckle. How on earth was
> that done by those same Late Stone
> Agers?

If iron (or bronze), the wheel, and pulley, which I would add the crane as well, were required then it stands to reason this is what the builders had. Not to mention large saws, drills, and lathes. There is no doubt lost technology is on display in Egypt which for me what at least was required would be on par with the Romans.

> I seem to have missed that you meant that the
> dynastics built the southern pits deliberately in
> a different shape than all the other tapered pits,
> and they initially had a different function in
> mind for those 2 rectangular pits, but then for
> whatever reason decided to repurpose those pits as
> boat pits instead. If that makes more sense to
> you, so be it.

I think it would make sense to anyone.

> Respectfully, I think that's a very farfetched
> contrivance to account for those pits.

I stand corrected.

> What other
> possible function might such unique rectangular
> pits have served the OK in that position so close
> to G1 in such prime real estate, every square inch
> of which was surely planned by the royal
> authorities of the time?

Why is always the question of the negative the only "proof" offered of the alternative? The fact is we do not know what, if any, original purpose it may have served in the OK is not "proof" it did not have a purpose which at a later time was converted to another during the same period. And who is to say that was not the plan all along? We don't know.

I think the problem is actually that the southern pits are not "prime real estate". Even though they have Djedefre's name all over the blocks I am not convinced these boats were for Khufu either which may explain the "non-conformity" of the boat pits and also why it's Djedefre's name not Khufu's.


G1's temple and causeway are in the east. The two eastern boat pits, which are actually shaped like boats, sit exactly where one (me anyways) would expect a pharaoh to place his funerary boats- not only symmetrically flanking his temple and the entrance to his supposed "tomb", but also the direction of the rising sun, RA, which the pharaoh would have been resurrected by each day to journey on his solar barque to the heavens. This is the prime real estate, not the southern side.

The fact these boats are found to the south, with no relation to anything as far as I am aware, makes me further believe they were not originally intended as boat pits, but also that the boats found there were not meant for Khufu at all.

What is also interesting to me, though there are early Dynastic boat burials at Saqqara, to my knowledge there are none associated with Djoser's step pyramid or the 3rd Dynasty. If correct, a glaring omission of tradition I would say. Boat burials are suggested to have been found at least until the end of the 2nd Dynasty with some at Abydos attributed to Khasekhemwy, but there is no direct evidence for this and is just as likely they predate him. No boat burials are found directly related to the Bent, Red, or Meidum pyramids either. There is one at Abu Roash (though I do not believe this is a pyramid and is older than the 4th Dynasty), which again we find Djedefre (the first pharaoh to incorporate RE/RA into his name). Despite this apparent gap in tradition, from Giza into the 6th Dynasty there are several boat burials associated with pyramids. I would have to research this further,but it would appear a bit of a "boat burial revival" occurred for some reason during the time of Djedefre. Hmm.

> And what could have
> possibly happened midstream that caused such a
> major decision to relegate those same
> non-conforming pits to suddenly serve as royal
> boat pits?

Maybe it didn't. Personally, I do not believe the great pyramids were built by one pharaoh for one pharaoh nor that construction was started and completed within each pharaoh's reign. Assuming the southern pits were built during the beginnings of construction, by the time it was completed, perhaps a century or two later, not to mention however long after Khufu's death during during Djedefre's reign, these pits may have merely served as a place of opportunity for Djedefre to bury boats.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 13-Sep-16 04:36 by Thanos5150.

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Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 4149 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 03:30
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 729 eyeofhorus33 04-Sep-16 06:28
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 658 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 19:18
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 717 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 08:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 708 DUNE 04-Sep-16 10:12
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 680 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 10:24
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 692 DUNE 04-Sep-16 10:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 605 DUNE 04-Sep-16 11:22
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 692 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 18:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 608 DUNE 04-Sep-16 18:23
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 623 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 18:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 634 cladking 04-Sep-16 21:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 526 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 21:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 652 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 06:09
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 573 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 16:24
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 650 Jon Ellison 05-Sep-16 17:14
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 544 cladking 05-Sep-16 22:10
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 664 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 11:26
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 681 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 17:03
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 481 Steve Clayton 04-Sep-16 18:25
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 621 Steve Clayton 04-Sep-16 18:55
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 585 cladking 04-Sep-16 20:21
Boats R Us 504 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 591 jamesglory 08-Sep-16 06:06
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 520 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 18:09
Re: Khufu's Boats used in their Pits 552 DScribr 09-Sep-16 18:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 613 jamesglory 16-Sep-16 05:45
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 595 jamesglory 26-Sep-16 13:22
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 502 cladking 26-Sep-16 14:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 470 Thanos5150 27-Sep-16 00:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 643 jamesglory 27-Sep-16 06:43
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 628 Thanos5150 27-Sep-16 17:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 500 DUNE 15-Oct-16 10:58
Khufu I/Block 20 420 Dr. Troglodyte 15-Oct-16 18:13
Re: Khufu I/Block 20 522 Thanos5150 15-Oct-16 21:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 518 Origyptian 18-Oct-16 00:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 509 DUNE 18-Oct-16 07:56
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 543 Thanos5150 18-Oct-16 16:50
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 435 DUNE 18-Oct-16 17:00
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 576 Thanos5150 18-Oct-16 17:36
Re: Khufu's Boats-to be built by others..... 603 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:07
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 632 cladking 04-Sep-16 20:26
Re: Water erosion 726 Thunderbird 05-Sep-16 14:36
Re: Water erosion 527 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 16:18
Re: Water erosion 651 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 16:50
Re: Water erosion 478 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 17:46
Re: Water erosion 603 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 22:12
Re: Water erosion 533 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 16:58
Re: Water erosion 508 eyeofhorus33 05-Sep-16 17:29
Re: Water erosion 572 Merrell 05-Sep-16 17:46
Re:Control the conversation.....tantrum. ... 590 Thunderbird 05-Sep-16 20:14
Re: Re:Control the conversation.....tantrum. ... 592 Martin Stower 05-Sep-16 20:55
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 564 Thunderbird 06-Sep-16 04:57
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 593 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 21:06
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 506 cladking 06-Sep-16 21:51
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 622 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 21:56
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 596 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 23:21
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 521 cladking 07-Sep-16 00:11
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 411 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:23
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 538 cladking 07-Sep-16 19:07
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 530 DScribr 08-Sep-16 01:17
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 550 cladking 08-Sep-16 13:39
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 523 Origyptian 08-Sep-16 23:56
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 460 cladking 09-Sep-16 00:52
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 473 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 23:13
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 684 cladking 07-Sep-16 00:17
Stream of Consciousness 576 eyeofhorus33 06-Sep-16 19:33
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 558 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 12:55
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 520 cladking 06-Sep-16 14:03
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 522 Steve Clayton 06-Sep-16 17:28
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 499 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 18:08
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 498 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 12:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 506 cladking 07-Sep-16 14:19
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 545 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 18:23
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 522 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 18:34
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 541 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 19:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 530 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 23:38
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 773 Thanos5150 06-Sep-16 23:41
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 519 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 14:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 495 cladking 07-Sep-16 14:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 542 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 15:46
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 569 cladking 07-Sep-16 16:24
Galleries :: Graves 592 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Sep-16 23:33
Re: Galleries :: Graves 563 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 00:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 750 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 03:32
Re: Galleries :: Graves 528 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:21
Re: Galleries :: Graves 490 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 16:52
Re: Galleries :: Graves 663 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 19:00
Re: Galleries :: Graves 535 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 21:54
Re: Galleries :: Graves 524 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 23:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 538 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 23:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 512 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 05:50
Re: Galleries :: Graves 582 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 06:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 551 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 17:29
Re: Galleries :: Graves 671 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 21:06
Re: Galleries :: Graves 550 cladking 10-Sep-16 21:30
Re: Galleries :: Graves 644 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 15:06
Re: Galleries :: Graves 578 Thunderbird 12-Sep-16 15:36
Re: Galleries :: Graves 488 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 01:41
Re: Galleries :: Graves 549 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 02:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 562 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 04:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 678 Morten 13-Sep-16 09:05
Thanks for the link 513 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:04
Re: Galleries :: Graves 582 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 482 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 17:03
Boat Graves-one answer. 560 DScribr 13-Sep-16 17:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 452 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 02:57
Re: Galleries :: Graves 529 cladking 09-Sep-16 03:25
Close enough 548 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:02
Re: Close enough 444 cladking 09-Sep-16 21:03
Re: Close enough 555 DScribr 10-Sep-16 00:33
Re: Close enough 550 cladking 10-Sep-16 01:09
Re: Galleries :: Graves 515 Dr. Troglodyte 09-Sep-16 15:43
Re: Galleries :: Graves 494 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 18:02
It wasn't 559 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:06
Re: It wasn't 582 Origyptian 08-Sep-16 23:45
At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 531 DScribr 09-Sep-16 01:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 541 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 12:55
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists!!! 514 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 500 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:06
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 548 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 14:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 514 cladking 09-Sep-16 14:35
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 608 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 19:22
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 524 Jon Ellison 09-Sep-16 20:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 573 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 21:41
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 581 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 22:17
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 539 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 16:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 546 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 21:39
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 604 DScribr 11-Sep-16 02:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 485 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 03:27
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 662 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 01:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 521 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 03:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 561 cladking 12-Sep-16 03:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 548 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 17:48
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 543 Martin Stower 12-Sep-16 20:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 516 cladking 12-Sep-16 20:49
Re: Shred of evidence : ) 552 Thunderbird 12-Sep-16 21:19
Re: Shred of evidence : ) 531 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 00:00
Sphinx 541 DScribr 13-Sep-16 00:43
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 560 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 21:04
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 513 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 00:21
Mainstream evidence still exists.... 450 DScribr 13-Sep-16 00:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 500 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 04:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 501 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 04:31
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 487 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 13:27
Ergo, Adaption! 401 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:33
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 462 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 15:52
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 517 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 16:47
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 453 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 16:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 510 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 16:58
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 449 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 18:15
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 489 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 485 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 501 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 00:38
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 466 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 02:24
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 433 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 16:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 501 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 16:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 519 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 501 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 20:19
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 481 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 503 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 501 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 02:12
Overruled!!! 406 DScribr 14-Sep-16 03:12
Re: Overruled!!! 537 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:02
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 468 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 12:19
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 489 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 17:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 508 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:17
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 483 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:22
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 497 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:39
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 548 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:51
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 533 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 00:55
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 494 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:30
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 412 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:37
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 523 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 449 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 23:51
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 517 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 00:56
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 436 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 01:33
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 522 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 02:34
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 489 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 12:00
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 521 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:30
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 503 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 15:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 485 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 18:39
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 494 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 22:36
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 494 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 23:17
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 526 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 23:34
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 413 Origyptian 16-Sep-16 20:37
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 583 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 23:52
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 523 DScribr 17-Sep-16 00:45
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 596 Jon Ellison 17-Sep-16 07:45
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 501 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 15:56
A polite and academic style of writing. 463 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:35
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 498 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 15:25
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 527 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 16:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 476 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 17:59
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 521 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 20:57
MS and DScribr are really the same person!!!.......Film @ 11. 525 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 514 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 22:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 456 Martin Stower 18-Sep-16 00:27
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 501 Thanos5150 18-Sep-16 00:52
Misleading still exists... 492 DScribr 18-Sep-16 01:26
Re: Misleading still exists... 470 randompHactor 18-Sep-16 02:45
Re: Misleading still exists... 481 Barbelo 18-Sep-16 11:32
Re: Misleading still exists... 515 DScribr 18-Sep-16 13:55
Re: Misleading still exists... 473 randompHactor 18-Sep-16 15:16
Re: Misleading still exists... 372 DScribr 18-Sep-16 19:30
Re: Misleading still exists... 482 Origyptian 18-Sep-16 20:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 476 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 18:45
Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 443 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:40
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 514 Origyptian 18-Sep-16 20:53
Re: STILL Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 629 DScribr 19-Sep-16 00:41
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 530 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 17:50
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 374 cladking 19-Sep-16 18:06
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 404 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:06
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 569 cladking 20-Sep-16 14:29
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 492 Jon Ellison 20-Sep-16 16:46
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 548 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:34
They were sealed during the late 4th D. 539 DScribr 20-Sep-16 17:23
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 431 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:44
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 589 Jon Ellison 24-Sep-16 20:03
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 487 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 03:52
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 480 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:29
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 488 Thanos5150 17-Sep-16 18:01
Mainstream evidence exists... 527 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:49
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 495 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 21:56
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 495 Thanos5150 17-Sep-16 23:53
Summary perspective of el-Jarf 444 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 20:30
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 513 Martin Stower 19-Sep-16 22:55
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 500 Thanos5150 19-Sep-16 23:40
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 520 Corpuscles 20-Sep-16 00:43
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 506 Thanos5150 20-Sep-16 02:05
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 486 Corpuscles 20-Sep-16 23:50
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 500 cladking 21-Sep-16 00:38
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 479 Origyptian 20-Sep-16 05:09
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 553 Martin Stower 20-Sep-16 10:10
'The Truth' 503 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:20
Re: 'The Truth' 413 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:31
Re: 'The Truth' 526 Martin Stower 24-Sep-16 00:41
Re: 'The Truth' 519 Origyptian 24-Sep-16 17:11
Re: 'The Truth' 495 Martin Stower 24-Sep-16 19:21
Re: 'The Truth' 524 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 04:13
Re: 'The Truth' 534 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 13:30
Re: 'The Truth' 482 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 15:45
Re: 'The Truth' 475 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 18:15
Re: 'The Truth' 457 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 18:35
Re: 'The Truth' 459 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 19:09
Tallet Misrepresented by Ori.......... 483 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:18
Perspective vs Fact 448 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:12
Re: Perspective vs Fact 463 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:28
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 481 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 23:20
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 498 DScribr 16-Sep-16 00:40
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 474 Origyptian 16-Sep-16 01:53
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 496 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 14:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists...whether read-or not! 501 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:17
Galleries Correction 468 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:15
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 406 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 14:24
Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 451 DScribr 14-Sep-16 03:25
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 508 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 15:15
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 511 DScribr 14-Sep-16 16:04
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 487 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 21:44
Fringe-in-denial.... .... 514 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:34
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 414 cladking 15-Sep-16 18:35
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 386 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 19:40
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 470 cladking 15-Sep-16 19:56
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 451 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 20:53
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 484 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 22:10
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 536 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:06
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 457 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 09:17
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 443 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:37
Life Unfair! 492 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:36
Wadi el Jarf evidence exists 450 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:14
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists...or does it?!? 576 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:09
Re: It wasn't 526 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 12:37
Got Pics? 459 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:17
Re: It wasn't 674 M. J. Thomas 09-Sep-16 13:09
Re: It wasn't 499 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:26
Re: It wasn't 497 eyeofhorus33 09-Sep-16 15:54
Re: It wasn't 426 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 15:56
Re: Saqqara 536 Thunderbird 09-Sep-16 17:01
Re: Saqqara 541 cladking 09-Sep-16 17:18
Re: Djedefre. ...your Fired ! 491 Thunderbird 10-Sep-16 03:38
Re: It wasn't 457 Steve Clayton 10-Sep-16 01:08
Re: It wasn't 553 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 17:02
Re: It wasn't 633 Martin Stower 10-Sep-16 20:49
Re: It wasn't 570 Martin Stower 10-Sep-16 21:33
Re: It wasn't 491 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 00:53
Re: It wasn't 460 Martin Stower 12-Sep-16 20:43
Re: It wasn't 519 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 02:37
Re: It wasn't 484 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 14:57
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 508 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 16:20
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 488 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 16:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 507 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 17:18
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 430 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 18:00
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 403 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 17:30
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 453 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 18:11
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 497 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 22:12
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 484 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 23:08
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 426 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 23:26
Lifting IS Required. 545 DScribr 14-Sep-16 12:35
Re: Lifting IS Required. 408 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 16:16
Re: Lifting IS Required. 526 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 16:43
Re: Lifting IS Required. 448 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 16:51
Re: Lifting IS Required. 534 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 18:16
Re: Lifting IS Required. 483 M. J. Thomas 14-Sep-16 18:35
Re: Lifting IS Required. 462 randompHactor 14-Sep-16 19:28
Re: Lifting IS Required. 464 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 20:01
Re: Lifting IS Required. 514 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 19:03
Re: Lifting IS Required. 636 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 20:02
Re: Lifting IS Required. 487 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 20:13
Re: Lifting IS Required. 561 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 21:58
Re: Lifting IS Required. 440 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:18
Re: Lifting IS Required. 424 Steve Clayton 15-Sep-16 01:05
Re: Lifting IS Required. 649 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 20:38
Re: Lifting IS Required. 563 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 22:39
Re: Lifting IS Required. 319 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:18
Re: Lifting IS Required. 451 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 23:32
Re: Lifting IS Required. 480 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:55
Re: Lifting IS Required. 516 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 09:09
Re: Lifting IS Required. 487 Steve Clayton 14-Sep-16 19:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 453 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 17:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 423 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 17:38
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 441 Steve Clayton 16-Sep-16 12:38
The Pharaoh's House 493 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:14
Water 358 D-Archer 21-Sep-16 11:28
Re: Water 458 cladking 21-Sep-16 13:37
Saw pit? 492 Apap 22-Sep-16 00:13
Great idea. 373 cladking 22-Sep-16 02:00
Re: Great idea. 496 Apap 22-Sep-16 18:22
Re: Great idea. 516 cladking 22-Sep-16 19:13
Re: Saw pit? 559 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:52


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