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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
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> > > Thanos5150 Wrote:
>
> > > ...none of these storage galleries
> > > were made for complete boats...
>
> > There's no evidence that precludes the possibility
> > that those galleries may have been used to house
> > disassembled boats.
>
> Since when is "no evidence that precludes a
> possibility" of something evidence of that
> something? Is this one of your "higher standards
> of proof"?

Tallet clearly states:

    "...but we found hundreds of pieces of wood, fragments of oars, and sections of ropes that proves big boats were originally stored in those caves."

And in support of that I simply stated that there's no evidence that contradicts that possibility. I was contrasing "disassembled" with your use of "complete" just to be sure you knew I wasn't suggesting that assembled boats were placed inside those galleries.



> Previously, however, you questioned why they would
> not bury the Giza boats in one piece trying to
> cast doubt on the provenance of the boats and/or
> pits, yet now because they may have stored
> disassembled boats in maritime storage galleries
> to this somehow support your other doubt mongering
> question of "why bury the boats in a pit covered
> by blocks instead of an underground chamber"?

I was only suggesting that since Tallet has proposed that boats were placed in those galleries, and that that he dated those galleries to the time of construction of G1, that it would not be unreasonable to proposed that the boat pits around G1 might just as well have been similarly constructed galleries rather than open trenches with 40 monoliths, each weighing 15 tons, comprising the lid. I was simply addressing an issue of logical inconsistency in that argument and not what actually happened. And I realize you are trying to draw a distinction between a "grave" and "storage", but King Tut wasn't "stored" in KV62. Graves certainly can be caves and need not be relegated to open trenches covered with 600 tons of hewn megaliths.

But having said that, I personally think neither is actually the case: I highly doubt the Tallet's proposed provenance of the el-Jarf galleries and I highly doubt G1's southern pits were originally designed as "graves" for royal boats.



> These are boat graves, not storage galleries.

Says you and many traditionalists. I acknowledge it's possible those pits may have been used as boat "graves" at some point in time after those pits were hewn, but I see no compelling logic to the notion that they were originally designed to be boat graves. And nothing about the evidence there seems to preclude adaption, especially the keystones and slanted end ramp which, if anything, would direct runoff water into the pit rather than away from it...



...not to mention that many of the 35 known boat pits are tapered at the ends and not rectangular, several have concave floors while others' are flat, and some have multiple tiered "shelves" around the perimeter rather than a single ledge to support roof beams, and then there's that very wide "boat pit" east of G1 that couldn't possibly span beams of limestone without cracking unless suspended by pillars (for which there is no evidence).



> > The galleries
> > were already breached and essentially picked clean
> > by the time Tallet arrived. Tallet claimed those
> > galleries likely served as a kind of
> > long/short-term storage bins, but that's pure speculation.
>
> No it is not "pure speculation". There are other
> examples of maritime storage galleries very
> similar to these found at harbors elsewhere along
> the Red Sea later which there is direct evidence
> of this being their purpose and everything about
> Wadi al-Jarf says it is no different.

OK, I should have said there's no proof they were originally designed for storage. There's no proof they were hewn in the 3rd millennium BC. And I highly doubt those painted glyphs survived 4500 years on those limestone blocks out there in the open when the glyphs found in the 1st boat pit are already "almost illegible" after exposed to the atmosphere for only 25 years despite being coated with polyvinyl-acetate preservatative and with boards protecting them from the weather.

I'd love to hear how the provenance of the original caves was determined other than by association with those painted glyphs and stray fragments of papyrus which have all been openly accessible by anyone indefinitely. As far as I can tell, the erosion in those caves suggest a far older age.

Their use as a storage system cannot be ruled out as adaption. The evidence supports adaption and nothing significantly contradicts adaption.



> So in just one post you have used what you
> perceive as the lack of evidence as positive
> support of something that you want to be true and
> the same "lack of evidence" to support a negative
> of something you do not want to be true.

Again, you misinterpreted my post. It's one thing to contend there is evidence of something, and an another thing to say there also isn't any evidence to contradict that contention. For example, it's one thing to say the presence of al Mamoun's tunnel is evidence that he excavated his way into G1. However, that the main entrance was reported to have been accessed earlier by Romans and is located at a higher level than Mamoun's tunnel seems to contradict the "he dug into G1" contention.



> Which does not end however as in the very next
> sentence you argue the exact opposite of what you
> just said against Tallet:
>
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And after all, those galleries are located
> relatively close to the harbor where one would
> expect to find boats in
> storage along with other things nautical.
>
> You seem to be having quite an argument with yourself.

I'm not arguing with myself. I'm simply pointing out what I consider to be inconsistencies in the orthodox argument.

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Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 4142 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 03:30
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 726 eyeofhorus33 04-Sep-16 06:28
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 655 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 19:18
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 715 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 08:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 706 DUNE 04-Sep-16 10:12
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 677 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 10:24
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 689 DUNE 04-Sep-16 10:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 602 DUNE 04-Sep-16 11:22
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 689 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 18:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 606 DUNE 04-Sep-16 18:23
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 620 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 18:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 632 cladking 04-Sep-16 21:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 524 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 21:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 650 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 06:09
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 570 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 16:24
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 647 Jon Ellison 05-Sep-16 17:14
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 541 cladking 05-Sep-16 22:10
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 660 Jon Ellison 04-Sep-16 11:26
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 678 Thanos5150 04-Sep-16 17:03
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 478 Steve Clayton 04-Sep-16 18:25
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 620 Steve Clayton 04-Sep-16 18:55
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 582 cladking 04-Sep-16 20:21
Boats R Us 501 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 589 jamesglory 08-Sep-16 06:06
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 518 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 18:09
Re: Khufu's Boats used in their Pits 550 DScribr 09-Sep-16 18:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 610 jamesglory 16-Sep-16 05:45
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 594 jamesglory 26-Sep-16 13:22
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 499 cladking 26-Sep-16 14:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 468 Thanos5150 27-Sep-16 00:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 640 jamesglory 27-Sep-16 06:43
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 625 Thanos5150 27-Sep-16 17:53
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 498 DUNE 15-Oct-16 10:58
Khufu I/Block 20 418 Dr. Troglodyte 15-Oct-16 18:13
Re: Khufu I/Block 20 519 Thanos5150 15-Oct-16 21:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 516 Origyptian 18-Oct-16 00:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 506 DUNE 18-Oct-16 07:56
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 539 Thanos5150 18-Oct-16 16:50
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 432 DUNE 18-Oct-16 17:00
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 573 Thanos5150 18-Oct-16 17:36
Re: Khufu's Boats-to be built by others..... 600 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:07
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 629 cladking 04-Sep-16 20:26
Re: Water erosion 723 Thunderbird 05-Sep-16 14:36
Re: Water erosion 524 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 16:18
Re: Water erosion 649 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 16:50
Re: Water erosion 475 Thanos5150 05-Sep-16 17:46
Re: Water erosion 594 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 22:12
Re: Water erosion 531 Steve Clayton 05-Sep-16 16:58
Re: Water erosion 506 eyeofhorus33 05-Sep-16 17:29
Re: Water erosion 569 Merrell 05-Sep-16 17:46
Re:Control the conversation.....tantrum. ... 585 Thunderbird 05-Sep-16 20:14
Re: Re:Control the conversation.....tantrum. ... 589 Martin Stower 05-Sep-16 20:55
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 561 Thunderbird 06-Sep-16 04:57
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 591 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 21:06
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 503 cladking 06-Sep-16 21:51
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 620 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 21:56
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 593 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 23:21
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 518 cladking 07-Sep-16 00:11
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 407 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:23
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 535 cladking 07-Sep-16 19:07
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 527 DScribr 08-Sep-16 01:17
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 547 cladking 08-Sep-16 13:39
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 520 Origyptian 08-Sep-16 23:56
Re: How knowledge challenged the Fringe 457 cladking 09-Sep-16 00:52
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 471 Martin Stower 06-Sep-16 23:13
Re: How knowledge challenged the Egyptology 682 cladking 07-Sep-16 00:17
Stream of Consciousness 574 eyeofhorus33 06-Sep-16 19:33
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 554 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 12:55
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 517 cladking 06-Sep-16 14:03
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 520 Steve Clayton 06-Sep-16 17:28
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 498 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 18:08
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 496 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 12:40
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 503 cladking 07-Sep-16 14:19
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 543 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 18:23
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 520 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 18:34
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 537 Origyptian 06-Sep-16 19:16
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 528 Jon Ellison 06-Sep-16 23:38
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 770 Thanos5150 06-Sep-16 23:41
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 518 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 14:17
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 493 cladking 07-Sep-16 14:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 539 Steve Clayton 07-Sep-16 15:46
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 565 cladking 07-Sep-16 16:24
Galleries :: Graves 590 Dr. Troglodyte 08-Sep-16 23:33
Re: Galleries :: Graves 561 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 00:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 748 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 03:32
Re: Galleries :: Graves 525 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:21
Re: Galleries :: Graves 486 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 16:52
Re: Galleries :: Graves 660 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 19:00
Re: Galleries :: Graves 532 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 21:54
Re: Galleries :: Graves 520 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 23:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 535 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 23:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 510 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 05:50
Re: Galleries :: Graves 580 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 06:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 543 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 17:29
Re: Galleries :: Graves 668 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 21:06
Re: Galleries :: Graves 547 cladking 10-Sep-16 21:30
Re: Galleries :: Graves 642 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 15:06
Re: Galleries :: Graves 574 Thunderbird 12-Sep-16 15:36
Re: Galleries :: Graves 484 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 01:41
Re: Galleries :: Graves 547 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 02:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 559 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 04:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 676 Morten 13-Sep-16 09:05
Thanks for the link 511 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:04
Re: Galleries :: Graves 580 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:01
Re: Galleries :: Graves 480 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 17:03
Boat Graves-one answer. 556 DScribr 13-Sep-16 17:27
Re: Galleries :: Graves 449 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 02:57
Re: Galleries :: Graves 527 cladking 09-Sep-16 03:25
Close enough 545 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:02
Re: Close enough 442 cladking 09-Sep-16 21:03
Re: Close enough 552 DScribr 10-Sep-16 00:33
Re: Close enough 547 cladking 10-Sep-16 01:09
Re: Galleries :: Graves 513 Dr. Troglodyte 09-Sep-16 15:43
Re: Galleries :: Graves 492 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 18:02
It wasn't 555 DScribr 07-Sep-16 16:06
Re: It wasn't 580 Origyptian 08-Sep-16 23:45
At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 529 DScribr 09-Sep-16 01:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 539 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 12:55
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists!!! 513 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 498 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:06
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 546 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 14:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 512 cladking 09-Sep-16 14:35
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 604 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 19:22
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 521 Jon Ellison 09-Sep-16 20:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 571 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 21:41
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 579 Thanos5150 09-Sep-16 22:17
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 536 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 16:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 539 Thanos5150 10-Sep-16 21:39
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 601 DScribr 11-Sep-16 02:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 483 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 03:27
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 658 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 01:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 519 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 03:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 557 cladking 12-Sep-16 03:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 546 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 17:48
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 540 Martin Stower 12-Sep-16 20:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 513 cladking 12-Sep-16 20:49
Re: Shred of evidence : ) 549 Thunderbird 12-Sep-16 21:19
Re: Shred of evidence : ) 529 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 00:00
Sphinx 538 DScribr 13-Sep-16 00:43
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 556 Thanos5150 12-Sep-16 21:04
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 509 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 00:21
Mainstream evidence still exists.... 446 DScribr 13-Sep-16 00:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 498 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 04:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 498 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 04:31
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 485 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 13:27
Ergo, Adaption! 396 DScribr 13-Sep-16 15:33
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 459 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 15:52
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 515 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 16:47
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 451 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 16:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 508 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 16:58
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 447 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 18:15
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 487 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:01
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 482 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 499 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 00:38
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 462 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 02:24
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 428 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 16:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 499 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 16:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 517 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 19:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 499 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 20:19
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 478 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:10
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 502 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 499 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 02:12
Overruled!!! 403 DScribr 14-Sep-16 03:12
Re: Overruled!!! 535 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:02
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 464 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 12:19
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 488 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 17:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 504 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:17
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 481 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 22:22
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 495 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:39
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 543 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:51
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 532 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 00:55
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 491 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 22:30
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 408 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:37
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 519 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 22:32
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 447 Thanos5150 13-Sep-16 23:51
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 516 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 00:56
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 434 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 01:33
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 520 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 02:34
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 487 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 12:00
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 518 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:30
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 500 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 15:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists.... 484 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 18:39
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 492 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 22:36
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 490 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 23:17
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 523 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 23:34
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 408 Origyptian 16-Sep-16 20:37
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 580 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 23:52
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 519 DScribr 17-Sep-16 00:45
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 593 Jon Ellison 17-Sep-16 07:45
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 499 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 15:56
A polite and academic style of writing. 462 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:35
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 488 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 15:25
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 524 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 16:16
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 474 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 17:59
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 519 Martin Stower 17-Sep-16 20:57
MS and DScribr are really the same person!!!.......Film @ 11. 524 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 512 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 22:21
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 454 Martin Stower 18-Sep-16 00:27
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 497 Thanos5150 18-Sep-16 00:52
Misleading still exists... 490 DScribr 18-Sep-16 01:26
Re: Misleading still exists... 468 randompHactor 18-Sep-16 02:45
Re: Misleading still exists... 479 Barbelo 18-Sep-16 11:32
Re: Misleading still exists... 512 DScribr 18-Sep-16 13:55
Re: Misleading still exists... 470 randompHactor 18-Sep-16 15:16
Re: Misleading still exists... 370 DScribr 18-Sep-16 19:30
Re: Misleading still exists... 477 Origyptian 18-Sep-16 20:46
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists... 473 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 18:45
Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 440 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:40
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 512 Origyptian 18-Sep-16 20:53
Re: STILL Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 626 DScribr 19-Sep-16 00:41
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 528 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 17:50
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim 371 cladking 19-Sep-16 18:06
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 402 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:06
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 566 cladking 20-Sep-16 14:29
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 489 Jon Ellison 20-Sep-16 16:46
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 546 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:34
They were sealed during the late 4th D. 537 DScribr 20-Sep-16 17:23
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 426 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:44
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 587 Jon Ellison 24-Sep-16 20:03
Re: They were sealed during the late 4th D. 484 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 03:52
Re: Awaiting Proof Of Ori's Pillaging Claim-avoiding responsibility.... 478 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:29
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 486 Thanos5150 17-Sep-16 18:01
Mainstream evidence exists... 525 DScribr 17-Sep-16 21:49
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 493 Origyptian 17-Sep-16 21:56
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 492 Thanos5150 17-Sep-16 23:53
Summary perspective of el-Jarf 437 Origyptian 19-Sep-16 20:30
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 511 Martin Stower 19-Sep-16 22:55
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 497 Thanos5150 19-Sep-16 23:40
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 518 Corpuscles 20-Sep-16 00:43
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 504 Thanos5150 20-Sep-16 02:05
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 484 Corpuscles 20-Sep-16 23:50
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 497 cladking 21-Sep-16 00:38
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 477 Origyptian 20-Sep-16 05:09
Re: Summary perspective of el-Jarf 550 Martin Stower 20-Sep-16 10:10
'The Truth' 501 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:20
Re: 'The Truth' 410 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:31
Re: 'The Truth' 522 Martin Stower 24-Sep-16 00:41
Re: 'The Truth' 517 Origyptian 24-Sep-16 17:11
Re: 'The Truth' 492 Martin Stower 24-Sep-16 19:21
Re: 'The Truth' 522 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 04:13
Re: 'The Truth' 530 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 13:30
Re: 'The Truth' 480 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 15:45
Re: 'The Truth' 472 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 18:15
Re: 'The Truth' 455 Origyptian 25-Sep-16 18:35
Re: 'The Truth' 457 Martin Stower 25-Sep-16 19:09
Tallet Misrepresented by Ori.......... 480 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:18
Perspective vs Fact 447 DScribr 20-Sep-16 12:12
Re: Perspective vs Fact 460 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:28
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 478 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 23:20
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 496 DScribr 16-Sep-16 00:40
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 472 Origyptian 16-Sep-16 01:53
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 493 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 14:05
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists...whether read-or not! 498 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:17
Galleries Correction 464 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:15
Re: At least (insufficient) Mainstream evidence exists... 403 Martin Stower 16-Sep-16 14:24
Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 448 DScribr 14-Sep-16 03:25
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 505 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 15:15
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 508 DScribr 14-Sep-16 16:04
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 484 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 21:44
Fringe-in-denial.... .... 512 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:34
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 412 cladking 15-Sep-16 18:35
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 383 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 19:40
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 466 cladking 15-Sep-16 19:56
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 448 Origyptian 15-Sep-16 20:53
Re: Fringe-in-denial.... .... 481 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 22:10
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 534 Thanos5150 15-Sep-16 03:06
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 454 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 09:17
Re: Misleading is a way of life here for some..... 442 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:37
Life Unfair! 490 DScribr 15-Sep-16 17:36
Wadi el Jarf evidence exists 446 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:14
Re: At least Mainstream evidence exists...or does it?!? 575 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:09
Re: It wasn't 524 Martin Stower 09-Sep-16 12:37
Got Pics? 456 DScribr 09-Sep-16 19:17
Re: It wasn't 665 M. J. Thomas 09-Sep-16 13:09
Re: It wasn't 496 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 13:26
Re: It wasn't 493 eyeofhorus33 09-Sep-16 15:54
Re: It wasn't 424 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 15:56
Re: Saqqara 534 Thunderbird 09-Sep-16 17:01
Re: Saqqara 538 cladking 09-Sep-16 17:18
Re: Djedefre. ...your Fired ! 488 Thunderbird 10-Sep-16 03:38
Re: It wasn't 455 Steve Clayton 10-Sep-16 01:08
Re: It wasn't 552 Origyptian 10-Sep-16 17:02
Re: It wasn't 630 Martin Stower 10-Sep-16 20:49
Re: It wasn't 567 Martin Stower 10-Sep-16 21:33
Re: It wasn't 489 Origyptian 12-Sep-16 00:53
Re: It wasn't 457 Martin Stower 12-Sep-16 20:43
Re: It wasn't 518 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 02:37
Re: It wasn't 482 Martin Stower 13-Sep-16 14:57
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 507 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 16:20
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 486 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 16:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 504 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 17:18
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 424 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 18:00
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 400 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 17:30
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 452 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 18:11
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 493 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 22:12
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 479 Jon Ellison 13-Sep-16 23:08
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 423 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 23:26
Lifting IS Required. 543 DScribr 14-Sep-16 12:35
Re: Lifting IS Required. 406 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 16:16
Re: Lifting IS Required. 524 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 16:43
Re: Lifting IS Required. 446 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 16:51
Re: Lifting IS Required. 531 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 18:16
Re: Lifting IS Required. 480 M. J. Thomas 14-Sep-16 18:35
Re: Lifting IS Required. 460 randompHactor 14-Sep-16 19:28
Re: Lifting IS Required. 455 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 20:01
Re: Lifting IS Required. 511 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 19:03
Re: Lifting IS Required. 629 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 20:02
Re: Lifting IS Required. 485 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 20:13
Re: Lifting IS Required. 559 Origyptian 14-Sep-16 21:58
Re: Lifting IS Required. 438 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:18
Re: Lifting IS Required. 423 Steve Clayton 15-Sep-16 01:05
Re: Lifting IS Required. 646 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 20:38
Re: Lifting IS Required. 561 Thanos5150 14-Sep-16 22:39
Re: Lifting IS Required. 316 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:18
Re: Lifting IS Required. 449 Martin Stower 14-Sep-16 23:32
Re: Lifting IS Required. 477 Jon Ellison 14-Sep-16 23:55
Re: Lifting IS Required. 514 Martin Stower 15-Sep-16 09:09
Re: Lifting IS Required. 484 Steve Clayton 14-Sep-16 19:42
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 450 Origyptian 13-Sep-16 17:02
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 421 Steve Clayton 13-Sep-16 17:38
Re: Khufu's Boats-How Did They Get There if Giza Was Built Before the Dynastic Period? 440 Steve Clayton 16-Sep-16 12:38
The Pharaoh's House 490 DScribr 16-Sep-16 15:14
Water 355 D-Archer 21-Sep-16 11:28
Re: Water 455 cladking 21-Sep-16 13:37
Saw pit? 491 Apap 22-Sep-16 00:13
Great idea. 371 cladking 22-Sep-16 02:00
Re: Great idea. 493 Apap 22-Sep-16 18:22
Re: Great idea. 514 cladking 22-Sep-16 19:13
Re: Saw pit? 556 Origyptian 23-Sep-16 19:52


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