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eyeofhorus33 Wrote:
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> Philip
>
> Sorry to use your own tactics against you, but
> your slimy attempt to weasel your way out of your
> own BS does not go unnoticed by those who read
> your posts.
>
> You are very fond of dissecting the writings of
> Egyptologists, highlighting words such as
> "might", "may", "could","perhaps".
>
> So, it seems pertinent to highlight the quotation
> you use to imply that you are "correct" in
> asserting that Ineni did not live into the reign
> of Thutmosis III.

I "implied" I was correct? There you go visiting my intentions again instead of just taking the words on their own merit. I've implied no such thing. The reason I highlight Egyptologists' use of "might", "may", "possibly", etc. is simply to show how uncertain the conclusions are, in contrast to the claim of having proven anything as "definitive" or "fact" or that any evidence "seals the deal". I have no problem with people saying "this is how I think it could have happened". But I have a problem with someone who says "this is how it happened" when the evidence is actually not at all indisputable.

My comments are based mainly on physical evidence, and I try my best to frame any contentions/conclusions as hypotheses and not as facts. For example, I do not believe that it has been "proven" that G1 was built before the 3rd Millennium BC. I've only stated that the evidence strongly supports such a provenance amidst the lack of evidence otherwise. Likewise for the construction tools and methods, and also tombs, ramps, physical world vs. afterlife, and other topics that are debated here.

And so I have not claimed that G1 was "definitely", "indisputably", or in any way "proven" to have been constructed millennia before the 3rd millennium BC, I've only proposed it as a logical possibility based on the evidence or lack thereof as a way to reconcile the contradictions.

Meanwhile, I've not deliberately insulted anyone or engaged in sordid name calling just because someone else disagrees with me, and I'm on record countless times showing the utmost respect for others who reciprocate the respect when there's a difference of opinion. Some of us know how to agree to disagree. But you can't say the same thing about a few others here who time and time again impose their hypothesis as indisputable, consider others' as lunacy or hypocrisy, and resort to insults and name calling just because those other assessments are in disagreement with their own.

My comment about Ineni doesn't represent any hypothesis of my own. It's about the physical evidence, the assessment of that evidence presented by historians, my read of Billing, Stocks, etc., and the contradictions that need to be reconciled. I've not "implied" that I'm correct. I'm only stating that there is more than one assessment that can be made from the evidence. If you believe the paintings on the wall of Djehutihotep and Rekhmire seem logical, that's your opinion, and I disagree with you. But I'm certainly not going to call you a "retard" just because we disagree about it.



> Weigall offers one fact and two opinions worthy of
> comment. Martin correctly identified the fact:
> "it must be remembered that Ineni lived into
> the reign of Thutmosis III;"


And in case you missed my prior post, Weigall's conclusion about such a "fact" seems to depend on how he parses out the Hatshepsut Problem. If he is on the side of Sethe, then he thinks Thutmose III initiated a solo reign for a short period immediately after the end of Thutmose I's reign and before the succession to Thutmose II and Hatshepsut in which case Ineni was certainly alive during Thutmose III's reign.

On the other hand, if Weigall subscribes to Naville, then the succession proceeded according to the traditional schema, and Thutmose III technically did begin his "reign" while Ineni was still alive, which actually was the "co-reign" with Hatshepsut during which Thutmose III is generally considered to have had very little, if any, power. This allows the possibility that the 2nd obelisk did lie unerected and uninscribed until Thutmose III took over the throne after Hatshepsut's death while still allowing Weigall to make the statement that Ineni was indeed alive when Thutmose III first began his "reign". Again, this isn't my notion, it's a well-known conundrum, similar to the G7000x problem, the technology problem, the timeline problem, etc.



> Despite this, you criticised Martin of being
> "disingenuous" (for stating a fact? How
> does that work?

Stower chose to ignore the other half of the equation, and he's chosen to taken issue with me for also considering the other side of the debate (interesting that you chose to defend him). And the other half of the story was right there in the same sentence which he deliberately omitted, and he didn't offer any explanation for that obvious omission. That bias struck me as disingenuous since it sure seemed to be a deliberate omission which happens to be relevant to the point and, in fact, contradicted Stower's contention. I'm certainly willing to stand corrected. Yes, Ineni was alive during Thutmose III's reign regardless of whether we're talking about him immediately following Thutmose I or co-reigning with Hatshepsut after Thutmose II. However, Ineni was NOT alive during Thutmose III's reign after the death of his stepmother which is when one school of thought claims the 2nd obelisk might have been erected and inscribed.

Likewise, the presence of Hatshepsut's name but not the acknowledgement of her occupying the throne is ambiguous since it could either apply to both the post-Thutmose I and post-Hatshepsut scenarios (the latter due to Thutmose III's dispute with her that likely made him less prone to give her royal credit on that obelisk).



> Please refrain from offering more
> BS by way of a pathetic attempt to explain or
> justify your indefensible position in this matter)
> and then you used a larger portion of the Weigall
> citation to suggest that Martin is somehow
> mistaken and that it is you who is correct.

Better yet, please ignore my posts. They obviously upset you, so why bother replying? We are all equally entitled to voice our own opinions and assessments of the evidence here. No one has a monopoly over which strategies, evidence, dictionaries, etc. are allowed for reporting or interpretation.



> Your belief is founded on opinion
> (actually, two opinions), and not fact.
>
> The fact, cited by Martin, is underlined. The two
> opinions, used by yourself as if they are
> facts
, are emboldened:
>
> "But it must be remembered that Ineni lived on
> into the reign of Thutmose III
; and, although
> he brought the two obelisks to Karnak in the reign
> of Thutmose I, only one of them may have
> been erected, and the other may have lain
> uninscribed on the ground, just as did a later
> obelisk...until at last the great and lengthy
> business of erecting it, delayed owing to other
> building operations..."

The "facts" are contradictory. So far it's still a Schrödinger's Cat scenario. On one hand we see two obelisks and a statement in a tomb that have been interpreted to indicate a king's succession that violates the traditional succession schema. On the other hand we can reconcile the contradiction by allowing a normal succession and simply consider the tomb narrative to be "funerary hyperbole" along with "fields of mud", "encompassing the field", and many more. The Hatshepsut Problem has not been settled definitively at this point.

From my perspective, your characterization of my comment as a "slimy attempt to weasel" out of anything simply indicates to me that you don't understand my comment.

Meanwhile, Archaic's "seals the deal" decree is illogical. The findings at Wadi el-Jarf seem extremely ambiguous and sometimes even contradict Tallet's claims about what the evidence actually shows.



> Higher standards of scholarship and proof are expected.

Amen to that.

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Re: Aliens 557 hendrik dirker 18-Jul-16 16:44
Re: Aliens 576 loveritas 18-Jul-16 21:28
...continued 612 hendrik dirker 19-Jul-16 11:10
Re: ...continued 599 loveritas 19-Jul-16 11:31
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Re: in conclusion 562 loveritas 20-Jul-16 20:36
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Re: Of course Egyptology is Right. 527 cladking 13-Jul-16 14:26
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Re: Megaliths 673 Thanos5150 26-Jul-16 20:27
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Re: astronomy alignments & gematria 482 Origyptian 01-Aug-16 16:46
Re: astronomy alignments & gematria 530 Warwick 01-Aug-16 16:55
Re: astronomy alignments & gematria 464 Origyptian 01-Aug-16 17:06
Re: astronomy alignments & gematria 489 Warwick 01-Aug-16 17:12
Re: astronomy alignments & gematria 539 Origyptian 01-Aug-16 17:26
Re: astronomy alignments & gematria 507 Spiros 07-Aug-16 13:04
Khafre alignment 635 Spiros 15-Jul-17 20:11
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 541 Graham Chase 26-Jul-16 13:45
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 512 Jon Ellison 26-Jul-16 14:25
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 512 Graham Chase 26-Jul-16 15:22
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 489 Origyptian 26-Jul-16 15:33
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 513 Graham Chase 27-Jul-16 11:04
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 668 Steve Clayton 31-Jul-16 17:22
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 517 cladking 31-Jul-16 18:43
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 593 Steve Clayton 31-Jul-16 20:28
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 616 cladking 31-Jul-16 22:22
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 539 Origyptian 01-Aug-16 15:38
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 522 Graham Chase 31-Jul-16 19:27
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 521 Steve Clayton 31-Jul-16 19:59
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 533 @tlantis 02-Aug-16 05:03
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 513 eyeofhorus33 02-Aug-16 06:21
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 466 Steve Clayton 02-Aug-16 20:38
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 477 DUNE 02-Aug-16 21:27
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 415 cladking 02-Aug-16 22:10
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 499 Steve Clayton 03-Aug-16 00:31
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 537 @tlantis 03-Aug-16 05:17
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 491 Thanos5150 03-Aug-16 16:21
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 591 eyeofhorus33 03-Aug-16 18:59
2013 find seals the deal. 487 Archaic 11-Aug-16 17:20
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 429 Origyptian 11-Aug-16 18:53
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 398 Archaic 11-Aug-16 18:56
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 494 Origyptian 11-Aug-16 19:32
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 466 Archaic 11-Aug-16 20:20
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 426 cladking 11-Aug-16 20:28
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 495 Martin Stower 11-Aug-16 20:39
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 474 cladking 11-Aug-16 20:47
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 397 Martin Stower 11-Aug-16 21:01
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 416 cladking 11-Aug-16 21:13
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 436 cladking 11-Aug-16 20:32
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 510 Archaic 11-Aug-16 20:46
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 388 Origyptian 11-Aug-16 21:00
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 388 Martin Stower 11-Aug-16 21:25
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 463 Origyptian 11-Aug-16 21:28
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 415 Martin Stower 11-Aug-16 21:42
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 383 cladking 11-Aug-16 21:04
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 439 Archaic 12-Aug-16 14:09
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 412 Origyptian 12-Aug-16 14:43
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 388 eyeofhorus33 12-Aug-16 15:07
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 431 cladking 12-Aug-16 15:11
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 465 Archaic 12-Aug-16 20:38
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 523 Martin Stower 13-Aug-16 00:50
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 412 Origyptian 13-Aug-16 16:06
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 451 Martin Stower 14-Aug-16 20:00
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 511 Origyptian 12-Aug-16 20:52
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 377 cladking 12-Aug-16 15:03
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 482 Thanos5150 12-Aug-16 16:04
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 438 Origyptian 12-Aug-16 21:07
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 442 Thanos5150 12-Aug-16 22:21
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 469 Origyptian 12-Aug-16 23:02
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 452 Martin Stower 13-Aug-16 00:09
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 476 Origyptian 13-Aug-16 16:09
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 455 Martin Stower 13-Aug-16 19:26
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 539 Thanos5150 13-Aug-16 00:56
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 546 Origyptian 13-Aug-16 16:16
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 533 Thanos5150 13-Aug-16 20:53
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 375 Martin Stower 13-Aug-16 23:07
Ineni's tomb and the obelisks 474 Origyptian 14-Aug-16 21:11
Re: Ineni's tomb and the obelisks 442 Martin Stower 14-Aug-16 21:32
Re: Ineni's tomb and the obelisks 513 eyeofhorus33 15-Aug-16 06:40
Re: Ineni's tomb and the obelisks 402 Martin Stower 15-Aug-16 20:16
Re: Ineni's tomb and the obelisks 437 Origyptian 15-Aug-16 23:37
Re: Ineni's tomb and the obelisks 474 Origyptian 15-Aug-16 23:22
Re: Ineni's tomb and the obelisks 395 Martin Stower 16-Aug-16 00:17
Re: Ineni's tomb and the obelisks 447 Origyptian 16-Aug-16 04:05
Re: Ineni's tomb and the obelisks 410 Martin Stower 16-Aug-16 14:09
Re: Ineni's tomb and the obelisks 591 Origyptian 16-Aug-16 17:00
Re: Ineni's tomb and the obelisks 481 Origyptian 16-Aug-16 04:28
Re: Ineni's tomb and the obelisks 447 Martin Stower 16-Aug-16 11:49
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 340 Origyptian 14-Aug-16 15:17
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 461 Thanos5150 14-Aug-16 17:41
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 346 cladking 14-Aug-16 18:34
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 436 cladking 14-Aug-16 18:45
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 531 Martin Stower 13-Aug-16 21:52
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 353 cladking 13-Aug-16 23:28
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 387 Martin Stower 14-Aug-16 00:32
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 461 cladking 14-Aug-16 02:56
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 467 Thanos5150 14-Aug-16 03:35
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 427 Origyptian 14-Aug-16 21:29
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 571 Martin Stower 14-Aug-16 22:40
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 487 Origyptian 15-Aug-16 03:04
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 458 Martin Stower 15-Aug-16 23:14
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 502 Origyptian 15-Aug-16 23:42
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 440 Martin Stower 16-Aug-16 00:51
Disgust 622 Luminescence 09-Sep-16 15:47
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 445 eyeofhorus33 14-Aug-16 15:11
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 375 Thanos5150 14-Aug-16 20:36
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 453 Martin Stower 13-Aug-16 19:56
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 366 cladking 11-Aug-16 22:18
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 452 Origyptian 11-Aug-16 20:53
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 538 Thanos5150 11-Aug-16 22:22
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 447 Origyptian 11-Aug-16 22:30
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 428 Martin Stower 11-Aug-16 23:51
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 326 Thanos5150 12-Aug-16 01:49
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 465 Thanos5150 12-Aug-16 01:45
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 448 Origyptian 12-Aug-16 07:38
What more do you want? 414 Archaic 12-Aug-16 13:39
Re: What more do you want? 322 cladking 12-Aug-16 14:00
Re: What more do you want? 448 Archaic 12-Aug-16 14:19
Re: What more do you want? 330 cladking 12-Aug-16 14:50
Re: What more do you want? 358 Martin Stower 12-Aug-16 16:22
Re: What more do you want? 435 cladking 12-Aug-16 16:38
Re: What more do you want? 399 Martin Stower 12-Aug-16 16:47
Re: What more do you want? 391 cladking 12-Aug-16 16:56
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 454 Thanos5150 12-Aug-16 16:53
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 415 cladking 12-Aug-16 17:19
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 447 Thanos5150 12-Aug-16 20:06
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 370 cladking 12-Aug-16 21:08
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 506 Thanos5150 13-Aug-16 00:01
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 425 cladking 13-Aug-16 00:34
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 355 Archaic 13-Aug-16 00:58
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 400 cladking 13-Aug-16 01:22
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 309 Martin Stower 14-Aug-16 00:43
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 425 cladking 14-Aug-16 00:49
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 412 Thanos5150 13-Aug-16 01:57
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 362 Origyptian 12-Aug-16 21:14
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 451 Martin Stower 12-Aug-16 00:06
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 382 cladking 12-Aug-16 00:52
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 349 Martin Stower 12-Aug-16 01:22
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 387 cladking 12-Aug-16 02:02
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 460 Thanos5150 12-Aug-16 02:16
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 497 cladking 12-Aug-16 02:42
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 606 Thanos5150 12-Aug-16 19:27
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 384 cladking 12-Aug-16 20:00
? 319 Archaic 12-Aug-16 20:51
Re: ? 399 cladking 12-Aug-16 21:19
Re: ? 449 Archaic 12-Aug-16 21:36
Bingo! n/t 262 cladking 12-Aug-16 21:52
Re: Bingo! n/t 363 Martin Stower 13-Aug-16 01:02
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 451 cladking 12-Aug-16 02:53
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 421 Origyptian 12-Aug-16 05:06
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 432 Thanos5150 12-Aug-16 01:55
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 391 cladking 12-Aug-16 02:12
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 357 Thanos5150 12-Aug-16 02:36
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 434 cladking 12-Aug-16 02:57
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 443 Archaic 12-Aug-16 21:32
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 408 cladking 12-Aug-16 21:50
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 374 Archaic 12-Aug-16 22:00
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 358 cladking 13-Aug-16 00:38
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 384 Archaic 13-Aug-16 00:42
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 431 Origyptian 12-Aug-16 22:01
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 357 Origyptian 12-Aug-16 21:57
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 457 Archaic 12-Aug-16 22:56
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 460 Origyptian 12-Aug-16 23:05
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 338 Archaic 13-Aug-16 00:41
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 415 cladking 13-Aug-16 01:23
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 471 Archaic 13-Aug-16 03:03
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 414 Martin Stower 13-Aug-16 01:28
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 398 cladking 13-Aug-16 02:05
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 465 Martin Stower 11-Aug-16 23:48
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 411 cladking 12-Aug-16 00:04
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 368 Origyptian 12-Aug-16 07:34
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 435 Martin Stower 12-Aug-16 16:05
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 367 Origyptian 09-Sep-16 14:49
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 428 Martin Stower 11-Aug-16 20:48
Re: 2013 find seals the deal. 438 cladking 11-Aug-16 20:39
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 433 cladking 14-Aug-16 03:03
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 616 Thanos5150 14-Aug-16 05:16
Re: Evidence Why the Pyramids were Built During the Dynastic Period- Give it Your Best Shot. 370 cladking 14-Aug-16 14:57


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