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Martin Stower Wrote:

> -----
> > > > It does for a single sample. Don't confuse
> a
> > > > single sample with the statistical analyses
> of the
> > > > whole project.
> > >
> > > No, it doesn’t. Detecting outliers checks
> data
> > > quality:
> > >
> > >
> [url=http://www.itl.nist.gov/div898/handbook/eda/s
> ection3/eda35h.htm]http://www.itl.nist.gov/div898/
> handbook/eda/section3/eda35h.htm[/url]
> >
> > Read part 2 of the first section..
> > Another scenario wherein only two samples were
> > taken one of which was our outlier.
> > Or another where 1000 samples were taken.
> > Or another in which there was absolutly no pre
> > conception of the age of the subject.
>
> Why would I read it? The statistics don’t
> matter, remember?

Exactly .. There's no point whatsoever in you reading it.



> > We see a summit casing in disrepair. We have no
> > idea how long it has been in that condition.
>
> Of course we do. We know roughly when most of the
> casing was torn off. Isn’t that the event most
> obviously implicated? I think so.

The reference was to the condition of the ruinous summit.
Not when the lower casing was removed. The two cannot be assumed to be directly related.



> > OK the upper section.. I'm not playing word
> > games.
>
> Yes, you are. Have you never heard of a language
> game?

Clairvoyant??? Your supernatural abilities astound me.


>
> [center][img]http://www.cheops-pyramide.ch/foto/py
> ramide/chefren-spitze.jpg[/img][/center]
>
> > > What I find remarkable is how crisply defined
> some
> > > of the blocks remain, at the edges in
> particular.
> > > This does not look like erosion by wind or
> rain.
> >
> > > What do you think did it? Termites?
> >
> > It is in considerable disrepair. One could
> argue
> > in need of repair. One method would be to pour
> > plaster slop into the cracks. which would
> > obviously seep into the core. Which after total
> > casing removal could be sampled by slop
> sampling
> > RC dating teams. which would account for the
> > higher dates being older, and the presence of
> > large areas of what appears to be casting.
>
> Do you not have a theory for Khafre’s pyramid?
> Is it not as old as Khufu’s? It certainly
> presented very similar problems to its builders.

Possibly.



> If your assumptions are the same in each case,
> then surely you must assume that the casing of
> Khafre’s also was ancient and in disrepair in
> the Old Kingdom—and repaired then, by slapping
> “slop” on it. Where are the signs of this? I
> can’t see them.

You are making assumptions about my alleged assumptions..???? A rare talent..




> > I don't have any 4000 year old photo's with
> which
> > to compare.
> > I'm considering a possible scenario.
> > The realistic framework is .
> > Based on the absence of 4000 year old photos.
> > The p'mid is much older.
> > The p'mid was in disrepair 4000 years ago. Say
> 50%
> > of disrepair we see today.
> > The pyramid was repaired 4000 years ago ..(or
> > more).
> > The pyramid was repaired top down.
> > Which accounts for the sample date trending and
> > the appearance of casting.
>
> No comment.

Good boy..


>
> > Forget the IF.. I'll say will.
> > The application of plaster repair slop on
> > something similar to G2 summit (upper extant
> > casing).
> > Will result in repair slop finding it's way
> down
> > into the outer core.
> > Not exactly watertight is it ?
>
> I can scarcely believe you’ve never used the old
> Polyfilla in your life. I mean old style, when
> you had to mix it up yourself. Make it too thin
> and runny (which is what you need for your trickle
> down theory) and it’s no damn’ good as filler.

You seem have experience with Polyfilla.

> They were scarcely in a position to put the
> pyramid in a rotating positioner, so what’s
> stopping the stuff just running down the face of
> the pyramid?

It may well have done, we cannot know for sure as the G1 casing is today , Non Existent.


Then we’d see what runoff looks
> like—and doubtless great pools of the stuff at
> the bottom. Any evidence of them?

No G1 Casing... Gone... Not there anymore... Core only...



>
> > > If this was their procedure, why do we see no
> sign
> > > of it on G2? You know, the one you’re
> holding
> > > up as an example of the need for it?

G2 an example of fissures and cracks. Not an example of repair.

Or at
> the
> > > Bent Pyramid, your example of actual repairs?
> >
> > Because it is beneath the extant casing.
> > Outer core.

The localised repairs are visible on the outer casing of the Bent. Indicating that localised repairs were carried out in ancient times.


>
> So, repairs to make good the exterior surface are
> not on the surface? Are you sure you meant to say
> this?

There is no extant original outer surface on G1, I would have thought you'd have noticed this.
There are ancient localised repairs on the exterior surface of the Bent.


>
> Unlike in the case of the Bent Pyramid, where they
> are.

There is an extant original outer surface on the Bent, complete with ancient localised repairs.



I used the ruinous condition of the summit of G2 to demonstrate cracks and fissures between casing blocks.
I used the repairs to the Bent to demonstrate that ancient pyramid casing repairs had been carried out.
I did not claim that identical repair methods were used on all three structures. There's no evidence of identical repair methods, due to the lack of a G1 casing.


>
> > Or another possibility..
> > G2 did not require repair at that time.
>
> But Jon, why would it not?

You tell me. Make another assumption.


Are you saying that
> this pyramid is much younger than Khufu’s? How
> many eras of pyramid building are you positing?

No, I'm not saying that as there is no evidence at present to date the construction of either G1 or G2 or the chronological order in which they were constructed.



> Khafre’s is nearly as big as Khufu’s and would
> have presented much the same problems to its
> builders. Economy would suggest that it belongs
> to much the same era—and so, at any given time,
> was just as old and eroded as Khufu’s.

There is no evidence to date either G1 or G2 or the chronological order in which they were constructed.

I'm not saying anything about G2 at present . You are as per usual jumping to unfounded conclusions, making assumptions and deflecting.

>
> > Or another.
> > Different repair strategy.
>
> Like replacing the casing entirely?

What??? I seriously doubt that a casing could be replaced.


>
> > He probably did repair replace small sections
> as
> > we see on the Bent. The pouring of slop
> > (cement/concrete today) is a method of binding
> > loose disarranged masonry. It's even used to
> > repair steel ships.
>
> Interesting. Ships could be made of concrete.
> They have been:

Yes ships can be made of concrete. Ships can also be repaired by pouring concrete as can ancient monuments. However today it is not considered desirable to do so.


>
> [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22633
> 24/Worlds-largest-ship-CEMENT-crushed-pieces-China
> -didnt-sink.html]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/a
> rticle-2263324/Worlds-largest-ship-CEMENT-crushed-
> pieces-China-didnt-sink.html[/url]
>
> > A cathedral repair carried out today is done by
> > skilled masons who's priority is in maintaining
> > the ancient construction integrity and
> practices
> > of the building for the purposes of
> preservation
> > of ancient technique as well as the structure
> > itself.
> > If history and heritage were not a priority,
> > poured concrete would provide at least a short
> > term repair.
> > As was done, (inappropriately by todays
> > standards), in the past, Stonehenge, Sphinx,
> > Colosseum to name but few.
>
> Poured concrete needs retaining. No rotating
> positioner for a pyramid, so no relying on gravity
> to do it, while the Swiss-cheese pyramid would
> make the whole procedure problematic. Put the
> pyramid in a big mould?

We are talking about the direct pouring of slop into open fissures to facilitate binding and securing of loose outer masonry, not direct intentional molding or casting.


>
> > > Care to specify the composition of this magic
> > > “slop”?
> >
> > Whatever the composition of the samples is.
>
> But Jon, the samples are charcoal. Are you saying
> that the “slop” is charcoal?

The slop contains charcoal. That is what was sampled.


>
> I have to ask at this point, does anyone (if
> anyone) still reading this find that Jon’s
> elaborations make his position more (and not less)
> plausible?
>
> Further comment deferred until I feel the
> impulse.

You find your position untenable ..??
At least we can agree on that.
You lack the technical competence required to continue the conversation.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 15-Jun-16 18:05 by Jon Ellison.

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Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 505 Martin Stower 14-Jun-16 16:51
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Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 410 Martin Stower 14-Jun-16 17:19
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Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 515 Martin Stower 15-Jun-16 00:09
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Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 384 Martin Stower 15-Jun-16 15:31
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 449 Jon Ellison 15-Jun-16 15:43
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 439 Martin Stower 15-Jun-16 16:53
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 439 Origyptian 15-Jun-16 18:22
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 426 Martin Stower 15-Jun-16 18:35
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 453 Jon Ellison 15-Jun-16 18:45
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 408 Martin Stower 15-Jun-16 19:11
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 487 Origyptian 15-Jun-16 18:47
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 426 Martin Stower 15-Jun-16 19:07
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 446 Origyptian 15-Jun-16 20:19
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 462 Martin Stower 16-Jun-16 00:33
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 403 Jon Ellison 15-Jun-16 05:15
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 526 Martin Stower 15-Jun-16 16:49
Re: Outer casing 440 Thunderbird 15-Jun-16 17:30
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 511 Jon Ellison 15-Jun-16 17:51
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 415 Martin Stower 15-Jun-16 18:24
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 417 Jon Ellison 15-Jun-16 18:28
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 321 Martin Stower 15-Jun-16 18:48
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 407 Jon Ellison 15-Jun-16 19:16
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 475 Martin Stower 15-Jun-16 19:24
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 387 Jon Ellison 15-Jun-16 19:38
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 396 Martin Stower 15-Jun-16 21:02
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 455 Jon Ellison 15-Jun-16 21:40
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 492 R Avry Wilson 15-Jun-16 21:53
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 542 Jon Ellison 15-Jun-16 22:42
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Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 430 Jon Ellison 16-Jun-16 00:41
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 381 Martin Stower 16-Jun-16 00:53
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 387 Jon Ellison 16-Jun-16 01:07
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 432 Martin Stower 16-Jun-16 01:30
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 403 Jon Ellison 16-Jun-16 01:37
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 436 Martin Stower 16-Jun-16 10:32
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 404 Corpuscles 16-Jun-16 01:03
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 407 R Avry Wilson 16-Jun-16 01:15
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 370 Jon Ellison 16-Jun-16 01:29
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 282 Origyptian 16-Jun-16 21:39
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 357 R Avry Wilson 16-Jun-16 22:06
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 340 Origyptian 16-Jun-16 22:12
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 352 R Avry Wilson 16-Jun-16 22:28
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 270 Origyptian 16-Jun-16 22:49
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 350 Martin Stower 16-Jun-16 23:51
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 282 Martin Stower 16-Jun-16 23:28
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 361 Origyptian 17-Jun-16 00:15
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 271 Martin Stower 17-Jun-16 01:38
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 284 Origyptian 17-Jun-16 18:23
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 284 Martin Stower 17-Jun-16 20:00
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 270 Origyptian 17-Jun-16 20:17
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 314 Martin Stower 17-Jun-16 20:36
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 350 Martin Stower 16-Jun-16 23:06
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 347 Origyptian 16-Jun-16 21:37
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 411 R Avry Wilson 15-Jun-16 18:54
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 436 Martin Stower 15-Jun-16 19:13
THE MORTAR 410 R Avry Wilson 15-Jun-16 20:47
Re: THE MORTAR 378 Corpuscles 15-Jun-16 22:30
Re: THE MORTAR 391 R Avry Wilson 16-Jun-16 00:53
Re: THE MORTAR 435 Corpuscles 16-Jun-16 01:55
Re: THE MORTAR 401 R Avry Wilson 16-Jun-16 02:28
Re: THE MORTAR 295 Origyptian 16-Jun-16 21:49
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 428 Warwick 16-Jun-16 19:33
Re: Be kind......Recycle ! 469 Thunderbird 14-Jun-16 19:17
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 505 Thanos5150 15-Jun-16 17:57
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 417 Jon Ellison 15-Jun-16 18:00
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 415 Martin Stower 15-Jun-16 18:09
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 430 Thanos5150 15-Jun-16 18:44
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 396 Martin Stower 15-Jun-16 18:50
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 386 Thanos5150 15-Jun-16 20:00
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 399 R Avry Wilson 15-Jun-16 20:39
Re: That pesky Radio Carbon dating 429 Thanos5150 15-Jun-16 21:14
Same link, different thread... 450 DScribr 13-Jun-16 17:56
Re: Please start a new Creighton Khufu thread 444 Rofhessa 13-Jun-16 05:11
so who is it? 458 Warwick 13-Jun-16 16:36
Re: so who is it? 430 DScribr 13-Jun-16 18:00
Anachronism 401 Warwick 14-Jun-16 15:14
Re: Please start a new Creighton Khufu thread 498 Harte 13-Jun-16 22:21
Re: Please start a new Creighton Khufu thread 512 Audrey 13-Jun-16 22:33
Re: Please start a new Creighton Khufu thread 400 Harte 16-Jun-16 21:47
Philip's Cartouche 551 R Avry Wilson 17-Jun-16 20:30
Re: Philip's Cartouche 445 Martin Stower 17-Jun-16 20:53
Re: Philip's Cartouche 355 Origyptian 17-Jun-16 21:02
Re: Philip's Cartouche 285 R Avry Wilson 17-Jun-16 21:42
Re: Philip's Cartouche 278 Origyptian 17-Jun-16 21:59
Re: Philip's Cartouche 344 R Avry Wilson 17-Jun-16 22:12
Re: Philip's Cartouche 412 Origyptian 17-Jun-16 22:28
Re: Philip's Cartouche 378 Corpuscles 18-Jun-16 22:57
Re: Philip's Cartouche 280 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 03:21
Re: Philip's Cartouche 508 Corpuscles 19-Jun-16 07:56
Re: Philip's Cartouche 376 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 09:29
Re: Philip's Cartouche 351 Origyptian 19-Jun-16 15:45
Re: Philip's Cartouche 323 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 17:08
Re: Philip's Cartouche 265 Audrey 18-Jun-16 01:32
Re: Philip's Cartouche 357 Martin Stower 18-Jun-16 19:57
Re: Philip's Cartouche 319 Audrey 18-Jun-16 20:19
Re: Philip's Cartouche 328 eyeofhorus33 18-Jun-16 20:51
Re: Philip's Cartouche 289 Audrey 18-Jun-16 23:19
Re: Philip's Cartouche 230 Thanos5150 19-Jun-16 00:31
Re: Philip's Cartouche 324 Origyptian 19-Jun-16 15:37
Re: Philip's Cartouche 387 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 00:35
Re: Philip's Cartouche 323 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 03:27
Re: Philip's Cartouche 371 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 06:42
Re: Philip's Cartouche 362 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 09:21
Re: Philip's Cartouche 277 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 10:03
Re: Philip's Cartouche 352 Origyptian 19-Jun-16 15:31
Re: Philip's Cartouche 364 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 16:11
Re: Philip's Cartouche 346 Origyptian 19-Jun-16 16:59
Re: Philip's Cartouche 435 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 17:23
Re: Philip's Cartouche 371 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 17:36
Re: Philip's Cartouche 282 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 14:10
Re: Philip's Cartouche 250 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 15:39
Re: Philip's Cartouche 254 Audrey 19-Jun-16 18:38
Re: Philip's Cartouche 352 Origyptian 19-Jun-16 18:50
Re: Philip's Cartouche 422 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 19:15
Re: Philip's Cartouche 350 Origyptian 19-Jun-16 19:32
Re: Philip's Cartouche 380 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 18:53
Re: Philip's Cartouche 333 Audrey 19-Jun-16 20:05
Clueless of Cartouche 338 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 21:19
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 322 Audrey 19-Jun-16 22:34
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 340 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 22:51
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 265 Audrey 19-Jun-16 23:16
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 388 Jon Ellison 19-Jun-16 23:25
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 308 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 23:45
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 366 Audrey 19-Jun-16 23:56
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 352 Jon Ellison 20-Jun-16 00:08
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 329 Martin Stower 20-Jun-16 00:58
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 283 Martin Stower 20-Jun-16 00:37
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 364 Audrey 20-Jun-16 00:51
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 296 Jon Ellison 20-Jun-16 00:55
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 313 R Avry Wilson 20-Jun-16 01:29
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 437 Audrey 20-Jun-16 01:53
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 346 R Avry Wilson 20-Jun-16 07:15
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 372 eyeofhorus33 20-Jun-16 17:03
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 369 Jon Ellison 20-Jun-16 21:03
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 314 Audrey 20-Jun-16 23:59
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 452 Jon Ellison 21-Jun-16 00:33
Re: Clueless of Cartouche, etc. 331 DScribr 20-Jun-16 01:24
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 282 eyeofhorus33 20-Jun-16 05:31
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 370 Jon Ellison 20-Jun-16 07:22
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 349 Martin Stower 20-Jun-16 15:58
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 365 Jon Ellison 20-Jun-16 17:04
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 264 Martin Stower 20-Jun-16 20:37
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 309 Jon Ellison 20-Jun-16 20:50
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 348 Martin Stower 21-Jun-16 00:05
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 275 Martin Stower 20-Jun-16 00:25
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 321 Audrey 20-Jun-16 00:49
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 289 Martin Stower 20-Jun-16 01:26
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 416 Merrell 20-Jun-16 08:42
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 260 Jon Ellison 20-Jun-16 09:46
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 296 Origyptian 20-Jun-16 15:36
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 336 Merrell 20-Jun-16 16:14
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 339 Origyptian 20-Jun-16 19:35
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 438 Thanos5150 20-Jun-16 20:19
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 260 Origyptian 20-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Plateau erosion / Khentkhawes /Campbell's Tomb 442 Thunderbird 20-Jun-16 21:31
Re: Plateau erosion / Khentkhawes /Campbell's Tomb 560 Audrey 21-Jun-16 06:10
Re: Plateau erosion / Khentkhawes /Campbell's Tomb 330 Thunderbird 21-Jun-16 16:35
Re: Plateau erosion / Khentkhawes /Campbell's Tomb 370 Audrey 22-Jun-16 00:55
Re: Plateau erosion / Sher/Wall of the Crow 545 Thunderbird 22-Jun-16 06:15
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 461 Thanos5150 21-Jun-16 02:07
Re: Clueless of Cartouche 299 Audrey 21-Jun-16 05:32
Re: Dance of the Pole Stars 379 Thunderbird 21-Jun-16 05:56
Re: Clueless of Egyptology 349 DScribr 20-Jun-16 01:27
Re: Philip's Cartouche 335 Origyptian 19-Jun-16 15:18
Re: Philip's Cartouche 266 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 17:30
Re: Philip's Cartouche 465 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 00:12
Re: Philip's Cartouche 301 Audrey 19-Jun-16 00:17
Re: Philip's Cartouche 361 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 00:47
Re: Philip's Cartouche 327 Audrey 19-Jun-16 01:29
Re: Philip's Cartouche 325 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 01:46
Re: Philip's Cartouche 326 Audrey 19-Jun-16 03:01
Re: Philip's Cartouche 500 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 14:08
Re: Philip's Cartouche 306 cladking 19-Jun-16 14:45
Re: Philip's Cartouche 390 Corpuscles 19-Jun-16 01:38
Khufu's Cartouche 283 DScribr 19-Jun-16 00:24
Re: Philip's Cartouche 353 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 03:23
Re: Philip's Cartouche 362 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 15:18
Re: Philip's Cartouche 315 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 16:56
Re: Philip's Cartouche 354 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 17:30
Re: Philip's Cartouche 347 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 18:00
Good Grief... 376 Warwick 21-Jun-16 15:53
Re: Philip's Cartouche 342 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 02:57
Re: Philip's Cartouche 385 Audrey 19-Jun-16 03:32
Re: Philip's Cartouche 324 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 03:47
Re: Philip's Cartouche 356 Audrey 19-Jun-16 04:01
Re: Philip's Cartouche 280 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 04:26
Re: Philip's Cartouche 339 Audrey 19-Jun-16 04:33
Re: Philip's Cartouche 415 Thanos5150 19-Jun-16 04:46
Re: Philip's Cartouche 340 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 09:35
Re: Philip's Cartouche 361 Thanos5150 19-Jun-16 16:05
Re: Philip's Cartouche 288 R Avry Wilson 20-Jun-16 23:44
Re: Philip's Cartouche 443 Thanos5150 21-Jun-16 05:56
Re: Philip's Cartouche 334 R Avry Wilson 21-Jun-16 16:51
Re: Philip's Cartouche 356 Origyptian 19-Jun-16 15:50
Re: Philip's Cartouche 243 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 16:42
Re: Philip's Cartouche 335 Martin Stower 19-Jun-16 15:07
Re: Philip's Cartouche 402 Merrell 19-Jun-16 10:50
Re: Philip's Cartouche 411 eyeofhorus33 19-Jun-16 13:57
Re: Philip's Cartouche 324 Origyptian 17-Jun-16 21:21
Re: Philip's Cartouche 285 R Avry Wilson 17-Jun-16 21:50
Re: Philip's Cartouche 370 Origyptian 17-Jun-16 22:27
Re: Philip's Cartouche 290 eyeofhorus33 18-Jun-16 20:54
Re: Philip's Cartouche 390 R Avry Wilson 19-Jun-16 02:23
Focus on the axiom 456 Merrell 19-Jun-16 20:24


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