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Martin Stower Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Merrell Wrote:
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> > > Audrey Wrote:
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> > > > Stower is a linguist?
> > >
> > > This is a term often (although not wholly
> > > accurately) used to describe people who speak
> > > several languages, when it's more properly
> the
> > >
> sci
> entific study of languages.

> > >
> > > Martin has studied linguistics in the context
> of
> > > cognitive science. He would not claim,
> however,
> > > that this makes him a linguist. He has
> > > contributed to projects in natural language
> > > processing, but, again, would not claim that
> this
> > > makes him a computational linguist.
> > >
> > > His interest in Egyptology is purely amateur,
> and
> > > he has never claimed otherwise.
> > >
> > > Lawton and Ogilvie-Herald don’t actually
> call
> > > Martin a linguist as such. They call him a
> > > “researcher”, a catch-all often applied
> to
> > > those on the “alternative” side, who
> usually
> > > lack formal credentials in the topics they
> > > discuss.
> >
> > Nevertheless they use Martin Stower, who it
> > transpires is non credentialed and "purely
> amateur
> > and has never claimed otherwise", in order to
> > buttress and underpin their argument.
> > Could this be considered somewhat disingenuous?
>
>
> No, John, they use me as a source of arguments and
> they acknowledge me as the source of these
> arguments. They present the arguments and leave
> the rest to the reader. They do not call me an
> “expert” and there is no appeal to authority
> (as noted below)—whereas you’ve made it
> abundantly clear here that an appeal to authority
> is precisely what Creighton has produced and this
> is how you see it yourself.

Which is exactly what Scott has done ..
He's identified and recognised an "expert". The one and only "expert" in the field as far as I am aware. (myself)
The expertise and method has been described, leaving the "ordinary reader" free to carry out their own analyses and draw there own conclusions.
Time and time again we say carry out your own analyses and draw your own conclusions.
How many times do we need to repeat it?



> > > > What credentials does Stower have making
> his
> > > > opinion believable?
> > >
> > > What credentials does Scott Creighton have
> which
> > > make his opinion believable?
> >
> > In terms of the brush stroke issue, Scott has
> no
> > credentials whatsoever. It is for this reason
> that
> > he very wisely sought the advice and opinion of
> a
> > fully credentialed and degreed expert in brush
> > stroke sequencing.
> > One Snape-Ellison M.A.
>
> Fully credentialed and degreed expert in brush
> stroke sequencing!

The FIRST and ONLY fully degreed expert in brush stroke sequencing in this field. The practice of sequencing of brush strokes.
It seems that Egyptology has failed to identify this analytical process.
I did.
Which I'm fully prepared to share, so that "ordinary readers" can carry out their own analyses and draw their own conclusions.


>
> Most of us have worked this stuff out before the
> age of five,
> [url=http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,10
> 52112,1055762#msg-1055762&v=t]remember[/url]?—an
> d you’re trying to con us that it’s
> specialised, esoteric knowledge which requires
> credentials to comment on?
>
> So, will you be showing us your published work on
> [i]brush stroke sequencing[/i] in the work of
> Roger Hilton (say)?
>
> Will you be showing us some of your paintings?

Why? What do my paintings have to do with anything?


>
> Past time for “the emperor has no clothes” on
> this one.

Ridiculous statement. The "clothes" have been demonstrated in the methodology.
The "clothes" have been freely given away and are free for anyone who cares to use them.



>
> And, let me remind you, Scott Creighton has no
> credentials in any of the stuff he talks about.

Were talking about ME, the one and only expert in brush stroke sequencing. Scott had the intelligence to seek expert advice on issues outside of his knowledge base and field.
A fact which is being fully and ably demonstrated here by yourself. He sought the advice of an expert.

>
> > > What credentials does Graham Hancock have
> which
> > > make his opinion believable?
> >
> > Again Graham Hancock actively and constantly
> seeks
> > the advice of credentialed experts and
> > specialists.
>
> I’ve done some of that myself.

Good for you ..


>
> As for Graham Hancock, would you like to give an
> example? He’s clearly selective in which
> experts and specialists he believes and which not.
> What credentials does he have to make this
> choice?

The professional integrity of GH is not the issue here.


>
> If the books are just compilations of what
> credentialed experts and specialists say,
> where’s the room for Graham Hancock?

Who said they were .. JUST....


>
> Who, let me remind you, has no credentials in any
> of the stuff he talks about. Pretty dumb to do
> this huffing and puffing about credentials on
> Graham Hancock’s Message Board!

Not relevant..


>
> > > Martin's approached the Khufu forgery
> question
> > > much as a journalist would. He read the
> material,
> > > made sure he understood it, then explained it.
>
> > > Where possible, he's run it past qualified
> > > Egyptologists. If people are persuaded by
> his
> > > arguments, it’s because they follow them in
> > > detail and exercise their intelligence. No
> appeal
> > > to authority is made.
> >
> > All well and good, the question arising are
> > egyptologists the best people to comment on
> > painting? (the application of paint to a
> surface,
> > usually by brush)
> > Since the dawn of Egyptology I am not aware of
> any
> > egyptologist even recognising the potential of
> > this methodology.
> > Up until now it has gone un-noticed. Hidden in
> > plain sight.
> > As far as I am aware I am the first to both
> > recognise the potential and utilise this
> > methodology.
> > As far as I am aware Scott Creighton is the
> first
> > author to employ a/the specialist in this
> field.
>
> But John, most of us have applied paint with a
> brush by the age of five! Remember?

Yes straightforward and easy to understand isn't it? Beautiful simplicity.
Which begs the question why hasn't Egyptology and those such as yourself not already recognised it and were totally unaware of it until I was gracious enough to bring it to your attention.
In fact even within this post you are questioning its viability.
It seems to have caused quite a stir hasn't it.



>
> Do readers need higher degrees in Fine Art to
> follow the argument? No? Then it can’t be that
> esoteric. On the contrary, it’s precisely an
> appeal to common experience which does not require
> a specialist at either end. What we have here is
> an argument from authority con job and nothing
> but.

No it does not require a degree in Art to follow the argument, but it seems that it did require a degree in Art and expertise in Art to bring the process and method to the attention of one and all, including yourself.
Now that you have been made aware of it, by myself, yours truly.
You now appear to be quite upset and resentful of this revelation.
I'm not sure that this genie is going to go back into the bottle.
Especially in view of the amount of bandwidth you seem to be dedicating to making the world at large aware of it.
Thank you ..


>
> And you’re dead wrong about being first to
> “recognise the potential and utilise this
> methodology”. Houdin commented on the brush
> sequence—and one or two calligraphers were
> discussing the material on Unexplained Mysteries
> in the context of their interest.

Good for them.. Not quite the same application is it?
The method has been in use for at least a century.
As far as I am aware I am the first to apply it to the cartouche in question.
I know of no other reference to this method being applied to this issue.




>
> Heard of palaeography? You think you have
> anything on specialists in hieratic or demotic?

This has nothing at all to do with the reading of signs and symbols.
It is totally about the physical process of the application of paint to a surface... Painting..



>
> > This is very similar to the Schoch/Sphinx
> > scenario, where it was argued that Schoch's
> lack
> > of egyptological credentials somehow precluded
> him
> > from commenting on the sphinx erosion patterns.
> > In that egyptological erosion somehow differed
> > from geological erosion.
>
> And other geologists differed, so don’t regard
> this as a done deal which can make your point.

Who said that it was a done deal .?? It's an analytical process applied to a problem.


>
> > > > So far as I know he has no training,
> education, or
> > > > field experience that would qualify him on
> > > > "Linguistic and interpretation issues".
> > > > No training in hieroglyphs or languages.
> > >
> > > A post in the other thread linked to a
> webpage
> > > stating that Martin has a professional
> interest in
> > > cognitive science; and, as I stated above,
> he's
> > > studied linguistics in that context.
> > >
> > > Lawton and Ogilvie-Herald don't call him an
> > > “expert” as such, or ask people to accept
> what
> > > he says on that basis. On the contrary, they
> > > summarise the relevant arguments (pp.
> 100–103 in
> > > the hardback edition) and leave the reader to
> > > decide on that basis.
> >
> > They sought his expertise in that field and
> > proclaimed so.
>
> BS.
>
> Quote please.


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Re: Expert? Specialist? 573 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 20:17
Re: Expert? Specialist? 472 Audrey 27-Jun-16 21:25
Re: Expert? Specialist? 447 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 21:52
Re: Expert? Specialist? 495 Merrell 28-Jun-16 09:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 480 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 09:30
Re: Expert? Specialist? 544 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 11:26
Re: Expert? Specialist? 494 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 12:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 471 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 14:15
Re: Expert? Specialist? 489 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 14:43
Re: Expert? Specialist? 459 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 15:10
Re: Expert? Specialist? 494 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 15:30
Re: Expert? Specialist? 513 Merrell 28-Jun-16 15:36
Re: Expert? Specialist? 463 Audrey 28-Jun-16 16:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 504 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 18:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 518 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 18:43
Re: Expert? Specialist? 493 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 20:22
Re: Expert? Specialist? 486 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 21:12
Re: Expert? Specialist? 534 Audrey 28-Jun-16 19:15
Re: Expert? Specialist? 595 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 01:35
Re: Expert? Specialist? 486 Audrey 29-Jun-16 02:41
Re: Expert? Specialist? 424 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 19:28
Re: Expert? Specialist? 428 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 20:43
Re: Expert? Specialist? 511 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 21:01
Re: Expert? Specialist? 487 Merrell 28-Jun-16 20:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 484 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 21:11
Re: Expert? Specialist? 500 Merrell 28-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 531 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 21:42
Re: No parallel? 490 Thunderbird 28-Jun-16 22:27
Re: No parallel? 460 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 22:41
Re: Expert? Specialist? 511 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 04:49
Re: Expert? Specialist? 477 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 507 R Avry Wilson 28-Jun-16 19:31
Re: R Avery Wilson 414 Thunderbird 28-Jun-16 20:47
Thanks, Brad 461 drrayeye 28-Jun-16 22:42
Re: Expert? Specialist? 483 Audrey 29-Jun-16 00:39
Re: Expert? Specialist? 427 R Avry Wilson 29-Jun-16 02:12
Re: Expert? Specialist? 397 Audrey 29-Jun-16 02:32
Re: Not all geeks are equal : ) 489 Thunderbird 29-Jun-16 06:32
Re: Not all geeks are equal : ) 468 cladking 29-Jun-16 19:01
Re: Expert? Specialist? 436 eyeofhorus33 28-Jun-16 21:06
Re: Expert? Specialist? 432 Merrell 28-Jun-16 21:19
Re: Expert? Specialist? 417 eyeofhorus33 28-Jun-16 21:33
Re: Expert? Specialist? 529 Corpuscles 30-Jun-16 00:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 424 Audrey 30-Jun-16 02:41
Re: Expert? Specialist? 384 R Avry Wilson 30-Jun-16 03:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 406 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 03:27
Re: Expert? Specialist? 347 R Avry Wilson 30-Jun-16 04:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 351 Audrey 30-Jun-16 05:29
Re: Expert? Specialist? 402 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 05:52
Re: Expert? Specialist? 409 eyeofhorus33 30-Jun-16 06:10
Re: Expert? Specialist? 483 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 06:37
Re: Ignore the evidence 442 Thunderbird 30-Jun-16 06:08
Re: Expert? Specialist? 445 Audrey 30-Jun-16 04:09
Re: Expert? Specialist? 475 R Avry Wilson 30-Jun-16 04:34
Re: Expert? Specialist? 463 Audrey 30-Jun-16 05:06
Re: Expert? Specialist? 449 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 15:07
Re: Expert? Specialist? 465 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 06:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 407 Corpuscles 30-Jun-16 23:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 415 Audrey 30-Jun-16 23:37
Re: Expert? Specialist? 385 Martin Stower 30-Jun-16 23:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 449 Audrey 01-Jul-16 00:36
Re: Expert? Specialist? 462 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 00:50
Re: Expert? Specialist? 340 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:09
Re: Expert? Specialist? 456 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 400 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:57
Re: Expert? Specialist? 481 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 464 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 04:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 444 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 14:55
Please, Steven 467 drrayeye 01-Jul-16 00:44
Re: Please, Steven 448 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:19
Re: Please, Steven 505 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:56
Re: Please, Steven 515 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 04:24
Re: Please, Steven 400 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 15:01
Re: Expert? Specialist? 407 Origyptian 26-Jun-16 18:12
Re: Expert? Specialist? 460 Merrell 26-Jun-16 19:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 424 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 00:03
Re: Expert? Specialist? 386 Merrell 27-Jun-16 07:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 465 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 13:19
Re: Expert? Specialist? 352 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 13:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 447 Merrell 27-Jun-16 14:56
Re: Expert? Specialist? 435 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 15:11
Re: Expert? Specialist? 394 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:28
Re: Expert? Specialist? 396 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:42
Re: Expert? Specialist? 532 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 17:37
Re: Expert? Specialist? 459 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 17:45
Re: Expert? Specialist? 515 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 21:13
Re: Expert? Specialist? 542 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 22:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 449 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 00:21
Re: Expert? Specialist? 492 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 474 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:40
Re: Expert? Specialist? 462 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 361 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 546 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 16:24
Re: Expert? Specialist? 366 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:30
Re: Expert? Specialist? 447 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 21:27
Re: Expert? Specialist? 443 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 01:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 423 eyeofhorus33 27-Jun-16 17:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 480 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:51
Re: Gatekeeping 385 Thunderbird 27-Jun-16 16:38
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 491 Audrey 26-Jun-16 01:54
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 567 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:24
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 413 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:42
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 496 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:18
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 489 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 03:27
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 398 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:31
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 501 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:40
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 402 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:46
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 437 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:52
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 442 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 04:23
No Moderator Conspiracy 420 loveritas 27-Jun-16 05:55
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 429 Morten 25-Jun-16 23:19
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 406 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:37
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 473 Audrey 25-Jun-16 23:51
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 400 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 00:45
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 492 Audrey 26-Jun-16 01:49
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 548 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:12
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 395 DScribr 30-Jun-16 02:48
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 468 Merrell 25-Jun-16 10:47
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 422 Merrell 26-Jun-16 13:30
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 414 Audrey 24-Jun-16 16:43
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 553 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 20:08
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 464 Audrey 24-Jun-16 20:33
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 531 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 20:47
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 555 Merrell 25-Jun-16 10:59
Re: Perring - Lady Arbuthnot chamber 510 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 11:38
Post o' the week! 451 DScribr 22-Jun-16 21:07
Summertime In England 470 loveritas 21-Jun-16 05:52
Re: Who Was Khufu? 525 DUNE 21-Jun-16 15:14
Re: Who Was Khufu? 413 Jon Ellison 21-Jun-16 15:22
Re: Who Was Khufu? 532 DUNE 21-Jun-16 16:05
Re: Minute Examination 513 Thunderbird 21-Jun-16 18:12
Re: Minute Examination 478 Martin Stower 21-Jun-16 18:48
Gilligan Accepts Michaelangelo Challenge 629 loveritas 22-Jun-16 03:34
Re: Gilligan Accepts Michaelangelo Challenge 491 Martin Stower 22-Jun-16 20:20
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 522 DScribr 23-Jun-16 19:14
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 567 Martin Stower 23-Jun-16 21:37
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 481 DScribr 23-Jun-16 23:00
Court Rocked By Stalker Allegation! 501 loveritas 22-Jun-16 23:20
Re: Court Rocked By Stalker Allegation! 558 Martin Stower 22-Jun-16 23:57
Creighton's Legal Team In Hiding 552 loveritas 23-Jun-16 23:54
it all boils down to this 485 Warwick 25-Jun-16 19:21
How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 499 Corpuscles 25-Jun-16 23:33
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 510 Audrey 26-Jun-16 00:19
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 515 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 01:24
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 441 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:17
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 489 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:33
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 501 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:48
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 415 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 02:52
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 447 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:57
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 465 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 02:59
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 379 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:40
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 420 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:46
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 533 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 04:04
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 494 Audrey 26-Jun-16 04:47
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 510 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 13:49
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 409 Warwick 26-Jun-16 17:32
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 469 Corpuscles 26-Jun-16 07:01
Re: Who Was Khufu? 512 atul.seth 28-Jun-16 12:48
Re: Who Was Khufu? 461 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 15:13
Re: Who Was Khufu? 528 Howard West 28-Jun-16 15:37
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 465 Brian Patterson 28-Jun-16 16:16
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 478 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 18:09
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 425 wonderwall 28-Jun-16 20:52
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 459 Brian Patterson 28-Jun-16 21:22
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 513 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 04:46
Lackeys 529 loveritas 29-Jun-16 07:19
Re: Lackeys 495 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 08:06
Re: Lackeys 425 Corpuscles 29-Jun-16 09:41
Re: Lackeys 471 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 09:45
Re: Lackeys 431 Audrey 29-Jun-16 15:52
Re: Lackeys 474 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:05
Oxymoron Alert 361 Warwick 29-Jun-16 16:36
Re: Oxymoron Alert 411 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:58
Re: Oxymoron Alert 403 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 17:06
Re: Oxymoron Alert 442 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:28
Re: Oxymoron Alert 483 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 17:36
Re: Oxymoron Alert 368 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:47
Re: Oxymoron Alert 373 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 18:59
Surely you Jest 407 WonderWho 29-Jun-16 19:59
Re: Surely you Jest 463 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 20:29
Re: Surely you Jest 422 WonderWho 29-Jun-16 20:48
Re: Oxymoron Alert 428 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 17:32
N/T 386 Merrell 01-Jul-16 17:22
Re: Oxymoron Alert 466 Warwick 29-Jun-16 17:15
Re: Oxymoron Alert 500 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 17:24
Say what? 441 Warwick 30-Jun-16 14:27
Re: Say what? 373 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 15:16
Re: Say what? 437 Warwick 01-Jul-16 16:55
Re: Say what? 444 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 17:10
Re: Say what? 459 Warwick 01-Jul-16 17:28
Re: Say what? 502 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 15:26
Re: Say what? 442 Warwick 01-Jul-16 16:51
The Lackey Called John Snape 393 loveritas 29-Jun-16 11:14
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 438 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 11:38
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 501 loveritas 29-Jun-16 11:55
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 417 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 12:01
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 430 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:16
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 482 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:33
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 402 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:47
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 473 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:58
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 375 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:09
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 510 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:28
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 416 eyeofhorus33 29-Jun-16 16:54
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 463 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:01
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 425 eyeofhorus33 29-Jun-16 17:10
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 469 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:30
Re: Lackeys 426 Audrey 29-Jun-16 15:59
Re: Lackeys 411 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:08
Re: Lackeys 482 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:31
Re: Lackeys 371 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:54
Re: Lackeys 389 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:06
Re: Lackeys 441 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 17:37
Re: Lackeys 372 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:43
Re: Lackeys 451 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 18:46
Re: Lackeys 477 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:48
Re: Lackeys 454 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 19:19
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 479 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 12:40
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 443 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 13:35
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 369 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:38
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 389 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 14:42
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 440 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 15:16
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 472 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:50
'Officially' in the gutter. 460 DScribr 29-Jun-16 20:16
Scotts 'New" Book 494 DScribr 29-Jun-16 03:36
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 454 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:27
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 410 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 14:07
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 424 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:44
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 459 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 15:48
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 402 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:57
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 435 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 16:07
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 420 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:14
n/t 446 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:59
The Need For Proof. 437 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:56
Re: The Need For Proof. 454 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 20:00
Hypocrisy 495 DScribr 29-Jun-16 20:10
Re: Hypocrisy 409 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 20:19
Re: Hypocrisy 436 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 20:56
Re: Hypocrisy 397 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 21:01
Re: Hypocrisy 449 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Hypocrisy 463 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 21:36
Re: Hypocrisy 415 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 22:21
Re: Hypocrisy 432 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:55
Re: Hypocrisy 376 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:53
Re: Hypocrisy denied, but..... 474 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:50
Re: Hypocrisy 457 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:48
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 420 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:49
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 406 cladking 29-Jun-16 03:48
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 465 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 05:09
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 375 cladking 29-Jun-16 19:12


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