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Martin Stower Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Merrell Wrote:
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> > > Audrey Wrote:
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> > > > Stower is a linguist?
> > >
> > > This is a term often (although not wholly
> > > accurately) used to describe people who speak
> > > several languages, when it's more properly
> the
> > >
> sci
> entific study of languages.

> > >
> > > Martin has studied linguistics in the context
> of
> > > cognitive science. He would not claim,
> however,
> > > that this makes him a linguist. He has
> > > contributed to projects in natural language
> > > processing, but, again, would not claim that
> this
> > > makes him a computational linguist.
> > >
> > > His interest in Egyptology is purely amateur,
> and
> > > he has never claimed otherwise.
> > >
> > > Lawton and Ogilvie-Herald don’t actually
> call
> > > Martin a linguist as such. They call him a
> > > “researcher”, a catch-all often applied
> to
> > > those on the “alternative” side, who
> usually
> > > lack formal credentials in the topics they
> > > discuss.
> >
> > Nevertheless they use Martin Stower, who it
> > transpires is non credentialed and "purely
> amateur
> > and has never claimed otherwise", in order to
> > buttress and underpin their argument.
> > Could this be considered somewhat disingenuous?
>
>
> No, John, they use me as a source of arguments and
> they acknowledge me as the source of these
> arguments. They present the arguments and leave
> the rest to the reader. They do not call me an
> “expert” and there is no appeal to authority
> (as noted below)—whereas you’ve made it
> abundantly clear here that an appeal to authority
> is precisely what Creighton has produced and this
> is how you see it yourself.

Which is exactly what Scott has done ..
He's identified and recognised an "expert". The one and only "expert" in the field as far as I am aware. (myself)
The expertise and method has been described, leaving the "ordinary reader" free to carry out their own analyses and draw there own conclusions.
Time and time again we say carry out your own analyses and draw your own conclusions.
How many times do we need to repeat it?



> > > > What credentials does Stower have making
> his
> > > > opinion believable?
> > >
> > > What credentials does Scott Creighton have
> which
> > > make his opinion believable?
> >
> > In terms of the brush stroke issue, Scott has
> no
> > credentials whatsoever. It is for this reason
> that
> > he very wisely sought the advice and opinion of
> a
> > fully credentialed and degreed expert in brush
> > stroke sequencing.
> > One Snape-Ellison M.A.
>
> Fully credentialed and degreed expert in brush
> stroke sequencing!

The FIRST and ONLY fully degreed expert in brush stroke sequencing in this field. The practice of sequencing of brush strokes.
It seems that Egyptology has failed to identify this analytical process.
I did.
Which I'm fully prepared to share, so that "ordinary readers" can carry out their own analyses and draw their own conclusions.


>
> Most of us have worked this stuff out before the
> age of five,
> [url=http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,10
> 52112,1055762#msg-1055762&v=t]remember[/url]?—an
> d you’re trying to con us that it’s
> specialised, esoteric knowledge which requires
> credentials to comment on?
>
> So, will you be showing us your published work on
> [i]brush stroke sequencing[/i] in the work of
> Roger Hilton (say)?
>
> Will you be showing us some of your paintings?

Why? What do my paintings have to do with anything?


>
> Past time for “the emperor has no clothes” on
> this one.

Ridiculous statement. The "clothes" have been demonstrated in the methodology.
The "clothes" have been freely given away and are free for anyone who cares to use them.



>
> And, let me remind you, Scott Creighton has no
> credentials in any of the stuff he talks about.

Were talking about ME, the one and only expert in brush stroke sequencing. Scott had the intelligence to seek expert advice on issues outside of his knowledge base and field.
A fact which is being fully and ably demonstrated here by yourself. He sought the advice of an expert.

>
> > > What credentials does Graham Hancock have
> which
> > > make his opinion believable?
> >
> > Again Graham Hancock actively and constantly
> seeks
> > the advice of credentialed experts and
> > specialists.
>
> I’ve done some of that myself.

Good for you ..


>
> As for Graham Hancock, would you like to give an
> example? He’s clearly selective in which
> experts and specialists he believes and which not.
> What credentials does he have to make this
> choice?

The professional integrity of GH is not the issue here.


>
> If the books are just compilations of what
> credentialed experts and specialists say,
> where’s the room for Graham Hancock?

Who said they were .. JUST....


>
> Who, let me remind you, has no credentials in any
> of the stuff he talks about. Pretty dumb to do
> this huffing and puffing about credentials on
> Graham Hancock’s Message Board!

Not relevant..


>
> > > Martin's approached the Khufu forgery
> question
> > > much as a journalist would. He read the
> material,
> > > made sure he understood it, then explained it.
>
> > > Where possible, he's run it past qualified
> > > Egyptologists. If people are persuaded by
> his
> > > arguments, it’s because they follow them in
> > > detail and exercise their intelligence. No
> appeal
> > > to authority is made.
> >
> > All well and good, the question arising are
> > egyptologists the best people to comment on
> > painting? (the application of paint to a
> surface,
> > usually by brush)
> > Since the dawn of Egyptology I am not aware of
> any
> > egyptologist even recognising the potential of
> > this methodology.
> > Up until now it has gone un-noticed. Hidden in
> > plain sight.
> > As far as I am aware I am the first to both
> > recognise the potential and utilise this
> > methodology.
> > As far as I am aware Scott Creighton is the
> first
> > author to employ a/the specialist in this
> field.
>
> But John, most of us have applied paint with a
> brush by the age of five! Remember?

Yes straightforward and easy to understand isn't it? Beautiful simplicity.
Which begs the question why hasn't Egyptology and those such as yourself not already recognised it and were totally unaware of it until I was gracious enough to bring it to your attention.
In fact even within this post you are questioning its viability.
It seems to have caused quite a stir hasn't it.



>
> Do readers need higher degrees in Fine Art to
> follow the argument? No? Then it can’t be that
> esoteric. On the contrary, it’s precisely an
> appeal to common experience which does not require
> a specialist at either end. What we have here is
> an argument from authority con job and nothing
> but.

No it does not require a degree in Art to follow the argument, but it seems that it did require a degree in Art and expertise in Art to bring the process and method to the attention of one and all, including yourself.
Now that you have been made aware of it, by myself, yours truly.
You now appear to be quite upset and resentful of this revelation.
I'm not sure that this genie is going to go back into the bottle.
Especially in view of the amount of bandwidth you seem to be dedicating to making the world at large aware of it.
Thank you ..


>
> And you’re dead wrong about being first to
> “recognise the potential and utilise this
> methodology”. Houdin commented on the brush
> sequence—and one or two calligraphers were
> discussing the material on Unexplained Mysteries
> in the context of their interest.

Good for them.. Not quite the same application is it?
The method has been in use for at least a century.
As far as I am aware I am the first to apply it to the cartouche in question.
I know of no other reference to this method being applied to this issue.




>
> Heard of palaeography? You think you have
> anything on specialists in hieratic or demotic?

This has nothing at all to do with the reading of signs and symbols.
It is totally about the physical process of the application of paint to a surface... Painting..



>
> > This is very similar to the Schoch/Sphinx
> > scenario, where it was argued that Schoch's
> lack
> > of egyptological credentials somehow precluded
> him
> > from commenting on the sphinx erosion patterns.
> > In that egyptological erosion somehow differed
> > from geological erosion.
>
> And other geologists differed, so don’t regard
> this as a done deal which can make your point.

Who said that it was a done deal .?? It's an analytical process applied to a problem.


>
> > > > So far as I know he has no training,
> education, or
> > > > field experience that would qualify him on
> > > > "Linguistic and interpretation issues".
> > > > No training in hieroglyphs or languages.
> > >
> > > A post in the other thread linked to a
> webpage
> > > stating that Martin has a professional
> interest in
> > > cognitive science; and, as I stated above,
> he's
> > > studied linguistics in that context.
> > >
> > > Lawton and Ogilvie-Herald don't call him an
> > > “expert” as such, or ask people to accept
> what
> > > he says on that basis. On the contrary, they
> > > summarise the relevant arguments (pp.
> 100–103 in
> > > the hardback edition) and leave the reader to
> > > decide on that basis.
> >
> > They sought his expertise in that field and
> > proclaimed so.
>
> BS.
>
> Quote please.


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Re: Expert? Specialist? 515 Audrey 27-Jun-16 20:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 604 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 20:17
Re: Expert? Specialist? 493 Audrey 27-Jun-16 21:25
Re: Expert? Specialist? 468 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 21:52
Re: Expert? Specialist? 516 Merrell 28-Jun-16 09:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 505 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 09:30
Re: Expert? Specialist? 568 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 11:26
Re: Expert? Specialist? 531 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 12:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 501 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 14:15
Re: Expert? Specialist? 520 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 14:43
Re: Expert? Specialist? 479 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 15:10
Re: Expert? Specialist? 518 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 15:30
Re: Expert? Specialist? 535 Merrell 28-Jun-16 15:36
Re: Expert? Specialist? 490 Audrey 28-Jun-16 16:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 529 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 18:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 541 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 18:43
Re: Expert? Specialist? 518 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 20:22
Re: Expert? Specialist? 509 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 21:12
Re: Expert? Specialist? 560 Audrey 28-Jun-16 19:15
Re: Expert? Specialist? 617 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 01:35
Re: Expert? Specialist? 511 Audrey 29-Jun-16 02:41
Re: Expert? Specialist? 452 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 19:28
Re: Expert? Specialist? 451 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 20:43
Re: Expert? Specialist? 533 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 21:01
Re: Expert? Specialist? 509 Merrell 28-Jun-16 20:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 511 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 21:11
Re: Expert? Specialist? 525 Merrell 28-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 560 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 21:42
Re: No parallel? 514 Thunderbird 28-Jun-16 22:27
Re: No parallel? 486 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 22:41
Re: Expert? Specialist? 531 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 04:49
Re: Expert? Specialist? 503 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 527 R Avry Wilson 28-Jun-16 19:31
Re: R Avery Wilson 441 Thunderbird 28-Jun-16 20:47
Thanks, Brad 499 drrayeye 28-Jun-16 22:42
Re: Expert? Specialist? 504 Audrey 29-Jun-16 00:39
Re: Expert? Specialist? 448 R Avry Wilson 29-Jun-16 02:12
Re: Expert? Specialist? 418 Audrey 29-Jun-16 02:32
Re: Not all geeks are equal : ) 524 Thunderbird 29-Jun-16 06:32
Re: Not all geeks are equal : ) 496 cladking 29-Jun-16 19:01
Re: Expert? Specialist? 465 eyeofhorus33 28-Jun-16 21:06
Re: Expert? Specialist? 453 Merrell 28-Jun-16 21:19
Re: Expert? Specialist? 436 eyeofhorus33 28-Jun-16 21:33
Re: Expert? Specialist? 553 Corpuscles 30-Jun-16 00:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 446 Audrey 30-Jun-16 02:41
Re: Expert? Specialist? 413 R Avry Wilson 30-Jun-16 03:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 427 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 03:27
Re: Expert? Specialist? 373 R Avry Wilson 30-Jun-16 04:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 373 Audrey 30-Jun-16 05:29
Re: Expert? Specialist? 434 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 05:52
Re: Expert? Specialist? 441 eyeofhorus33 30-Jun-16 06:10
Re: Expert? Specialist? 515 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 06:37
Re: Ignore the evidence 469 Thunderbird 30-Jun-16 06:08
Re: Expert? Specialist? 474 Audrey 30-Jun-16 04:09
Re: Expert? Specialist? 507 R Avry Wilson 30-Jun-16 04:34
Re: Expert? Specialist? 486 Audrey 30-Jun-16 05:06
Re: Expert? Specialist? 469 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 15:07
Re: Expert? Specialist? 491 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 06:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 430 Corpuscles 30-Jun-16 23:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 442 Audrey 30-Jun-16 23:37
Re: Expert? Specialist? 407 Martin Stower 30-Jun-16 23:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 476 Audrey 01-Jul-16 00:36
Re: Expert? Specialist? 487 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 00:50
Re: Expert? Specialist? 364 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:09
Re: Expert? Specialist? 482 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 421 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:57
Re: Expert? Specialist? 512 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 499 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 04:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 470 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 14:55
Please, Steven 503 drrayeye 01-Jul-16 00:44
Re: Please, Steven 472 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:19
Re: Please, Steven 531 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:56
Re: Please, Steven 548 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 04:24
Re: Please, Steven 429 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 15:01
Re: Expert? Specialist? 431 Origyptian 26-Jun-16 18:12
Re: Expert? Specialist? 491 Merrell 26-Jun-16 19:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 451 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 00:03
Re: Expert? Specialist? 415 Merrell 27-Jun-16 07:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 496 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 13:19
Re: Expert? Specialist? 380 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 13:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 467 Merrell 27-Jun-16 14:56
Re: Expert? Specialist? 457 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 15:11
Re: Expert? Specialist? 433 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:28
Re: Expert? Specialist? 419 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:42
Re: Expert? Specialist? 558 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 17:37
Re: Expert? Specialist? 483 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 17:45
Re: Expert? Specialist? 536 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 21:13
Re: Expert? Specialist? 563 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 22:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 472 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 00:21
Re: Expert? Specialist? 519 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 498 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:40
Re: Expert? Specialist? 493 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 381 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 567 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 16:24
Re: Expert? Specialist? 401 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:30
Re: Expert? Specialist? 467 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 21:27
Re: Expert? Specialist? 467 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 01:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 444 eyeofhorus33 27-Jun-16 17:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 510 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:51
Re: Gatekeeping 414 Thunderbird 27-Jun-16 16:38
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 514 Audrey 26-Jun-16 01:54
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 599 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:24
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 446 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:42
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 518 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:18
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 519 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 03:27
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 426 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:31
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 526 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:40
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 428 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:46
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 458 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:52
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 466 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 04:23
No Moderator Conspiracy 448 loveritas 27-Jun-16 05:55
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 459 Morten 25-Jun-16 23:19
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 434 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:37
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 500 Audrey 25-Jun-16 23:51
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 421 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 00:45
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 531 Audrey 26-Jun-16 01:49
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 578 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:12
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 420 DScribr 30-Jun-16 02:48
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 491 Merrell 25-Jun-16 10:47
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 449 Merrell 26-Jun-16 13:30
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 443 Audrey 24-Jun-16 16:43
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 582 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 20:08
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 489 Audrey 24-Jun-16 20:33
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 559 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 20:47
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 585 Merrell 25-Jun-16 10:59
Re: Perring - Lady Arbuthnot chamber 540 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 11:38
Post o' the week! 479 DScribr 22-Jun-16 21:07
Summertime In England 495 loveritas 21-Jun-16 05:52
Re: Who Was Khufu? 549 DUNE 21-Jun-16 15:14
Re: Who Was Khufu? 450 Jon Ellison 21-Jun-16 15:22
Re: Who Was Khufu? 556 DUNE 21-Jun-16 16:05
Re: Minute Examination 535 Thunderbird 21-Jun-16 18:12
Re: Minute Examination 497 Martin Stower 21-Jun-16 18:48
Gilligan Accepts Michaelangelo Challenge 658 loveritas 22-Jun-16 03:34
Re: Gilligan Accepts Michaelangelo Challenge 515 Martin Stower 22-Jun-16 20:20
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 552 DScribr 23-Jun-16 19:14
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 597 Martin Stower 23-Jun-16 21:37
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 507 DScribr 23-Jun-16 23:00
Court Rocked By Stalker Allegation! 530 loveritas 22-Jun-16 23:20
Re: Court Rocked By Stalker Allegation! 590 Martin Stower 22-Jun-16 23:57
Creighton's Legal Team In Hiding 582 loveritas 23-Jun-16 23:54
it all boils down to this 510 Warwick 25-Jun-16 19:21
How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 525 Corpuscles 25-Jun-16 23:33
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 539 Audrey 26-Jun-16 00:19
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 539 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 01:24
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 465 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:17
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 524 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:33
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 536 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:48
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 439 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 02:52
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 474 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:57
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 506 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 02:59
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 404 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:40
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 448 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:46
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 566 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 04:04
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 516 Audrey 26-Jun-16 04:47
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 539 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 13:49
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 441 Warwick 26-Jun-16 17:32
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 492 Corpuscles 26-Jun-16 07:01
Re: Who Was Khufu? 535 atul.seth 28-Jun-16 12:48
Re: Who Was Khufu? 493 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 15:13
Re: Who Was Khufu? 560 Howard West 28-Jun-16 15:37
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 498 Brian Patterson 28-Jun-16 16:16
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 506 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 18:09
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 451 wonderwall 28-Jun-16 20:52
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 494 Brian Patterson 28-Jun-16 21:22
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 544 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 04:46
Lackeys 563 loveritas 29-Jun-16 07:19
Re: Lackeys 530 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 08:06
Re: Lackeys 454 Corpuscles 29-Jun-16 09:41
Re: Lackeys 501 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 09:45
Re: Lackeys 452 Audrey 29-Jun-16 15:52
Re: Lackeys 506 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:05
Oxymoron Alert 391 Warwick 29-Jun-16 16:36
Re: Oxymoron Alert 446 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:58
Re: Oxymoron Alert 433 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 17:06
Re: Oxymoron Alert 472 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:28
Re: Oxymoron Alert 514 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 17:36
Re: Oxymoron Alert 395 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:47
Re: Oxymoron Alert 401 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 18:59
Surely you Jest 434 WonderWho 29-Jun-16 19:59
Re: Surely you Jest 482 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 20:29
Re: Surely you Jest 445 WonderWho 29-Jun-16 20:48
Re: Oxymoron Alert 452 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 17:32
N/T 419 Merrell 01-Jul-16 17:22
Re: Oxymoron Alert 493 Warwick 29-Jun-16 17:15
Re: Oxymoron Alert 522 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 17:24
Say what? 480 Warwick 30-Jun-16 14:27
Re: Say what? 402 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 15:16
Re: Say what? 464 Warwick 01-Jul-16 16:55
Re: Say what? 478 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 17:10
Re: Say what? 480 Warwick 01-Jul-16 17:28
Re: Say what? 527 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 15:26
Re: Say what? 464 Warwick 01-Jul-16 16:51
The Lackey Called John Snape 418 loveritas 29-Jun-16 11:14
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 461 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 11:38
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 532 loveritas 29-Jun-16 11:55
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 441 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 12:01
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 451 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:16
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 534 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:33
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 424 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:47
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 508 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:58
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 401 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:09
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 537 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:28
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 446 eyeofhorus33 29-Jun-16 16:54
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 489 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:01
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 456 eyeofhorus33 29-Jun-16 17:10
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 499 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:30
Re: Lackeys 460 Audrey 29-Jun-16 15:59
Re: Lackeys 439 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:08
Re: Lackeys 512 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:31
Re: Lackeys 396 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:54
Re: Lackeys 413 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:06
Re: Lackeys 468 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 17:37
Re: Lackeys 400 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:43
Re: Lackeys 487 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 18:46
Re: Lackeys 499 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:48
Re: Lackeys 484 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 19:19
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 512 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 12:40
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 474 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 13:35
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 398 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:38
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 414 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 14:42
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 471 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 15:16
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 500 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:50
'Officially' in the gutter. 494 DScribr 29-Jun-16 20:16
Scotts 'New" Book 522 DScribr 29-Jun-16 03:36
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 483 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:27
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 438 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 14:07
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 455 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:44
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 490 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 15:48
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 431 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:57
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 476 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 16:07
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 449 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:14
n/t 476 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:59
The Need For Proof. 462 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:56
Re: The Need For Proof. 488 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 20:00
Hypocrisy 521 DScribr 29-Jun-16 20:10
Re: Hypocrisy 441 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 20:19
Re: Hypocrisy 458 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 20:56
Re: Hypocrisy 419 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 21:01
Re: Hypocrisy 472 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Hypocrisy 491 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 21:36
Re: Hypocrisy 441 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 22:21
Re: Hypocrisy 453 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:55
Re: Hypocrisy 395 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:53
Re: Hypocrisy denied, but..... 506 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:50
Re: Hypocrisy 478 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:48
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 443 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:49
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 434 cladking 29-Jun-16 03:48
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 492 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 05:09
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 397 cladking 29-Jun-16 19:12


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