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Martin Stower Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Merrell Wrote:
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> > > Audrey Wrote:
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> > > > Stower is a linguist?
> > >
> > > This is a term often (although not wholly
> > > accurately) used to describe people who speak
> > > several languages, when it's more properly
> the
> > >
> sci
> entific study of languages.

> > >
> > > Martin has studied linguistics in the context
> of
> > > cognitive science. He would not claim,
> however,
> > > that this makes him a linguist. He has
> > > contributed to projects in natural language
> > > processing, but, again, would not claim that
> this
> > > makes him a computational linguist.
> > >
> > > His interest in Egyptology is purely amateur,
> and
> > > he has never claimed otherwise.
> > >
> > > Lawton and Ogilvie-Herald don’t actually
> call
> > > Martin a linguist as such. They call him a
> > > “researcher”, a catch-all often applied
> to
> > > those on the “alternative” side, who
> usually
> > > lack formal credentials in the topics they
> > > discuss.
> >
> > Nevertheless they use Martin Stower, who it
> > transpires is non credentialed and "purely
> amateur
> > and has never claimed otherwise", in order to
> > buttress and underpin their argument.
> > Could this be considered somewhat disingenuous?
>
>
> No, John, they use me as a source of arguments and
> they acknowledge me as the source of these
> arguments. They present the arguments and leave
> the rest to the reader. They do not call me an
> “expert” and there is no appeal to authority
> (as noted below)—whereas you’ve made it
> abundantly clear here that an appeal to authority
> is precisely what Creighton has produced and this
> is how you see it yourself.

Which is exactly what Scott has done ..
He's identified and recognised an "expert". The one and only "expert" in the field as far as I am aware. (myself)
The expertise and method has been described, leaving the "ordinary reader" free to carry out their own analyses and draw there own conclusions.
Time and time again we say carry out your own analyses and draw your own conclusions.
How many times do we need to repeat it?



> > > > What credentials does Stower have making
> his
> > > > opinion believable?
> > >
> > > What credentials does Scott Creighton have
> which
> > > make his opinion believable?
> >
> > In terms of the brush stroke issue, Scott has
> no
> > credentials whatsoever. It is for this reason
> that
> > he very wisely sought the advice and opinion of
> a
> > fully credentialed and degreed expert in brush
> > stroke sequencing.
> > One Snape-Ellison M.A.
>
> Fully credentialed and degreed expert in brush
> stroke sequencing!

The FIRST and ONLY fully degreed expert in brush stroke sequencing in this field. The practice of sequencing of brush strokes.
It seems that Egyptology has failed to identify this analytical process.
I did.
Which I'm fully prepared to share, so that "ordinary readers" can carry out their own analyses and draw their own conclusions.


>
> Most of us have worked this stuff out before the
> age of five,
> [url=http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,10
> 52112,1055762#msg-1055762&v=t]remember[/url]?—an
> d you’re trying to con us that it’s
> specialised, esoteric knowledge which requires
> credentials to comment on?
>
> So, will you be showing us your published work on
> [i]brush stroke sequencing[/i] in the work of
> Roger Hilton (say)?
>
> Will you be showing us some of your paintings?

Why? What do my paintings have to do with anything?


>
> Past time for “the emperor has no clothes” on
> this one.

Ridiculous statement. The "clothes" have been demonstrated in the methodology.
The "clothes" have been freely given away and are free for anyone who cares to use them.



>
> And, let me remind you, Scott Creighton has no
> credentials in any of the stuff he talks about.

Were talking about ME, the one and only expert in brush stroke sequencing. Scott had the intelligence to seek expert advice on issues outside of his knowledge base and field.
A fact which is being fully and ably demonstrated here by yourself. He sought the advice of an expert.

>
> > > What credentials does Graham Hancock have
> which
> > > make his opinion believable?
> >
> > Again Graham Hancock actively and constantly
> seeks
> > the advice of credentialed experts and
> > specialists.
>
> I’ve done some of that myself.

Good for you ..


>
> As for Graham Hancock, would you like to give an
> example? He’s clearly selective in which
> experts and specialists he believes and which not.
> What credentials does he have to make this
> choice?

The professional integrity of GH is not the issue here.


>
> If the books are just compilations of what
> credentialed experts and specialists say,
> where’s the room for Graham Hancock?

Who said they were .. JUST....


>
> Who, let me remind you, has no credentials in any
> of the stuff he talks about. Pretty dumb to do
> this huffing and puffing about credentials on
> Graham Hancock’s Message Board!

Not relevant..


>
> > > Martin's approached the Khufu forgery
> question
> > > much as a journalist would. He read the
> material,
> > > made sure he understood it, then explained it.
>
> > > Where possible, he's run it past qualified
> > > Egyptologists. If people are persuaded by
> his
> > > arguments, it’s because they follow them in
> > > detail and exercise their intelligence. No
> appeal
> > > to authority is made.
> >
> > All well and good, the question arising are
> > egyptologists the best people to comment on
> > painting? (the application of paint to a
> surface,
> > usually by brush)
> > Since the dawn of Egyptology I am not aware of
> any
> > egyptologist even recognising the potential of
> > this methodology.
> > Up until now it has gone un-noticed. Hidden in
> > plain sight.
> > As far as I am aware I am the first to both
> > recognise the potential and utilise this
> > methodology.
> > As far as I am aware Scott Creighton is the
> first
> > author to employ a/the specialist in this
> field.
>
> But John, most of us have applied paint with a
> brush by the age of five! Remember?

Yes straightforward and easy to understand isn't it? Beautiful simplicity.
Which begs the question why hasn't Egyptology and those such as yourself not already recognised it and were totally unaware of it until I was gracious enough to bring it to your attention.
In fact even within this post you are questioning its viability.
It seems to have caused quite a stir hasn't it.



>
> Do readers need higher degrees in Fine Art to
> follow the argument? No? Then it can’t be that
> esoteric. On the contrary, it’s precisely an
> appeal to common experience which does not require
> a specialist at either end. What we have here is
> an argument from authority con job and nothing
> but.

No it does not require a degree in Art to follow the argument, but it seems that it did require a degree in Art and expertise in Art to bring the process and method to the attention of one and all, including yourself.
Now that you have been made aware of it, by myself, yours truly.
You now appear to be quite upset and resentful of this revelation.
I'm not sure that this genie is going to go back into the bottle.
Especially in view of the amount of bandwidth you seem to be dedicating to making the world at large aware of it.
Thank you ..


>
> And you’re dead wrong about being first to
> “recognise the potential and utilise this
> methodology”. Houdin commented on the brush
> sequence—and one or two calligraphers were
> discussing the material on Unexplained Mysteries
> in the context of their interest.

Good for them.. Not quite the same application is it?
The method has been in use for at least a century.
As far as I am aware I am the first to apply it to the cartouche in question.
I know of no other reference to this method being applied to this issue.




>
> Heard of palaeography? You think you have
> anything on specialists in hieratic or demotic?

This has nothing at all to do with the reading of signs and symbols.
It is totally about the physical process of the application of paint to a surface... Painting..



>
> > This is very similar to the Schoch/Sphinx
> > scenario, where it was argued that Schoch's
> lack
> > of egyptological credentials somehow precluded
> him
> > from commenting on the sphinx erosion patterns.
> > In that egyptological erosion somehow differed
> > from geological erosion.
>
> And other geologists differed, so don’t regard
> this as a done deal which can make your point.

Who said that it was a done deal .?? It's an analytical process applied to a problem.


>
> > > > So far as I know he has no training,
> education, or
> > > > field experience that would qualify him on
> > > > "Linguistic and interpretation issues".
> > > > No training in hieroglyphs or languages.
> > >
> > > A post in the other thread linked to a
> webpage
> > > stating that Martin has a professional
> interest in
> > > cognitive science; and, as I stated above,
> he's
> > > studied linguistics in that context.
> > >
> > > Lawton and Ogilvie-Herald don't call him an
> > > “expert” as such, or ask people to accept
> what
> > > he says on that basis. On the contrary, they
> > > summarise the relevant arguments (pp.
> 100–103 in
> > > the hardback edition) and leave the reader to
> > > decide on that basis.
> >
> > They sought his expertise in that field and
> > proclaimed so.
>
> BS.
>
> Quote please.


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Re: Expert? Specialist? 553 eyeofhorus33 27-Jun-16 16:52
Re: Expert? Specialist? 565 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:40
Re: Expert? Specialist? 561 Audrey 27-Jun-16 20:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 664 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 20:17
Re: Expert? Specialist? 538 Audrey 27-Jun-16 21:25
Re: Expert? Specialist? 512 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 21:52
Re: Expert? Specialist? 555 Merrell 28-Jun-16 09:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 550 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 09:30
Re: Expert? Specialist? 606 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 11:26
Re: Expert? Specialist? 570 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 12:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 555 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 14:15
Re: Expert? Specialist? 584 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 14:43
Re: Expert? Specialist? 524 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 15:10
Re: Expert? Specialist? 563 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 15:30
Re: Expert? Specialist? 579 Merrell 28-Jun-16 15:36
Re: Expert? Specialist? 535 Audrey 28-Jun-16 16:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 580 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 18:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 584 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 18:43
Re: Expert? Specialist? 562 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 20:22
Re: Expert? Specialist? 546 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 21:12
Re: Expert? Specialist? 612 Audrey 28-Jun-16 19:15
Re: Expert? Specialist? 660 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 01:35
Re: Expert? Specialist? 560 Audrey 29-Jun-16 02:41
Re: Expert? Specialist? 498 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 19:28
Re: Expert? Specialist? 498 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 20:43
Re: Expert? Specialist? 576 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 21:01
Re: Expert? Specialist? 554 Merrell 28-Jun-16 20:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 548 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 21:11
Re: Expert? Specialist? 584 Merrell 28-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 603 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 21:42
Re: No parallel? 553 Thunderbird 28-Jun-16 22:27
Re: No parallel? 528 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 22:41
Re: Expert? Specialist? 574 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 04:49
Re: Expert? Specialist? 546 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 573 R Avry Wilson 28-Jun-16 19:31
Re: R Avery Wilson 481 Thunderbird 28-Jun-16 20:47
Thanks, Brad 550 drrayeye 28-Jun-16 22:42
Re: Expert? Specialist? 554 Audrey 29-Jun-16 00:39
Re: Expert? Specialist? 492 R Avry Wilson 29-Jun-16 02:12
Re: Expert? Specialist? 473 Audrey 29-Jun-16 02:32
Re: Not all geeks are equal : ) 569 Thunderbird 29-Jun-16 06:32
Re: Not all geeks are equal : ) 540 cladking 29-Jun-16 19:01
Re: Expert? Specialist? 515 eyeofhorus33 28-Jun-16 21:06
Re: Expert? Specialist? 497 Merrell 28-Jun-16 21:19
Re: Expert? Specialist? 477 eyeofhorus33 28-Jun-16 21:33
Re: Expert? Specialist? 611 Corpuscles 30-Jun-16 00:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 489 Audrey 30-Jun-16 02:41
Re: Expert? Specialist? 461 R Avry Wilson 30-Jun-16 03:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 472 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 03:27
Re: Expert? Specialist? 417 R Avry Wilson 30-Jun-16 04:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 421 Audrey 30-Jun-16 05:29
Re: Expert? Specialist? 487 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 05:52
Re: Expert? Specialist? 494 eyeofhorus33 30-Jun-16 06:10
Re: Expert? Specialist? 566 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 06:37
Re: Ignore the evidence 524 Thunderbird 30-Jun-16 06:08
Re: Expert? Specialist? 518 Audrey 30-Jun-16 04:09
Re: Expert? Specialist? 550 R Avry Wilson 30-Jun-16 04:34
Re: Expert? Specialist? 528 Audrey 30-Jun-16 05:06
Re: Expert? Specialist? 532 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 15:07
Re: Expert? Specialist? 535 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 06:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 479 Corpuscles 30-Jun-16 23:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 502 Audrey 30-Jun-16 23:37
Re: Expert? Specialist? 449 Martin Stower 30-Jun-16 23:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 533 Audrey 01-Jul-16 00:36
Re: Expert? Specialist? 536 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 00:50
Re: Expert? Specialist? 418 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:09
Re: Expert? Specialist? 533 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 467 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:57
Re: Expert? Specialist? 549 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 555 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 04:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 519 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 14:55
Please, Steven 551 drrayeye 01-Jul-16 00:44
Re: Please, Steven 526 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:19
Re: Please, Steven 589 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:56
Re: Please, Steven 612 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 04:24
Re: Please, Steven 482 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 15:01
Re: Expert? Specialist? 489 Origyptian 26-Jun-16 18:12
Re: Expert? Specialist? 536 Merrell 26-Jun-16 19:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 501 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 00:03
Re: Expert? Specialist? 482 Merrell 27-Jun-16 07:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 539 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 13:19
Re: Expert? Specialist? 432 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 13:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 514 Merrell 27-Jun-16 14:56
Re: Expert? Specialist? 500 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 15:11
Re: Expert? Specialist? 484 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:28
Re: Expert? Specialist? 469 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:42
Re: Expert? Specialist? 595 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 17:37
Re: Expert? Specialist? 532 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 17:45
Re: Expert? Specialist? 580 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 21:13
Re: Expert? Specialist? 609 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 22:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 514 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 00:21
Re: Expert? Specialist? 578 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 545 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:40
Re: Expert? Specialist? 536 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 430 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 614 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 16:24
Re: Expert? Specialist? 446 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:30
Re: Expert? Specialist? 513 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 21:27
Re: Expert? Specialist? 507 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 01:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 490 eyeofhorus33 27-Jun-16 17:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 563 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:51
Re: Gatekeeping 459 Thunderbird 27-Jun-16 16:38
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 558 Audrey 26-Jun-16 01:54
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 675 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:24
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 491 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:42
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 570 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:18
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 563 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 03:27
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 484 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:31
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 583 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:40
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 467 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:46
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 504 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:52
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 526 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 04:23
No Moderator Conspiracy 500 loveritas 27-Jun-16 05:55
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 511 Morten 25-Jun-16 23:19
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 490 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:37
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 553 Audrey 25-Jun-16 23:51
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 460 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 00:45
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 583 Audrey 26-Jun-16 01:49
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 630 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:12
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 464 DScribr 30-Jun-16 02:48
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 540 Merrell 25-Jun-16 10:47
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 489 Merrell 26-Jun-16 13:30
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 486 Audrey 24-Jun-16 16:43
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 634 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 20:08
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 540 Audrey 24-Jun-16 20:33
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 610 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 20:47
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 653 Merrell 25-Jun-16 10:59
Re: Perring - Lady Arbuthnot chamber 586 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 11:38
Post o' the week! 531 DScribr 22-Jun-16 21:07
Summertime In England 541 loveritas 21-Jun-16 05:52
Re: Who Was Khufu? 588 DUNE 21-Jun-16 15:14
Re: Who Was Khufu? 494 Jon Ellison 21-Jun-16 15:22
Re: Who Was Khufu? 600 DUNE 21-Jun-16 16:05
Re: Minute Examination 579 Thunderbird 21-Jun-16 18:12
Re: Minute Examination 544 Martin Stower 21-Jun-16 18:48
Gilligan Accepts Michaelangelo Challenge 700 loveritas 22-Jun-16 03:34
Re: Gilligan Accepts Michaelangelo Challenge 557 Martin Stower 22-Jun-16 20:20
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 594 DScribr 23-Jun-16 19:14
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 646 Martin Stower 23-Jun-16 21:37
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 553 DScribr 23-Jun-16 23:00
Court Rocked By Stalker Allegation! 578 loveritas 22-Jun-16 23:20
Re: Court Rocked By Stalker Allegation! 631 Martin Stower 22-Jun-16 23:57
Creighton's Legal Team In Hiding 632 loveritas 23-Jun-16 23:54
it all boils down to this 560 Warwick 25-Jun-16 19:21
How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 569 Corpuscles 25-Jun-16 23:33
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 587 Audrey 26-Jun-16 00:19
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 576 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 01:24
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 501 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:17
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 562 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:33
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 585 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:48
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 484 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 02:52
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 519 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:57
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 558 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 02:59
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 444 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:40
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 492 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:46
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 627 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 04:04
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 562 Audrey 26-Jun-16 04:47
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 594 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 13:49
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 512 Warwick 26-Jun-16 17:32
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 542 Corpuscles 26-Jun-16 07:01
Re: Who Was Khufu? 579 atul.seth 28-Jun-16 12:48
Re: Who Was Khufu? 547 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 15:13
Re: Who Was Khufu? 597 Howard West 28-Jun-16 15:37
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 542 Brian Patterson 28-Jun-16 16:16
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 554 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 18:09
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 493 wonderwall 28-Jun-16 20:52
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 534 Brian Patterson 28-Jun-16 21:22
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 593 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 04:46
Lackeys 613 loveritas 29-Jun-16 07:19
Re: Lackeys 576 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 08:06
Re: Lackeys 530 Corpuscles 29-Jun-16 09:41
Re: Lackeys 551 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 09:45
Re: Lackeys 497 Audrey 29-Jun-16 15:52
Re: Lackeys 546 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:05
Oxymoron Alert 445 Warwick 29-Jun-16 16:36
Re: Oxymoron Alert 501 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:58
Re: Oxymoron Alert 482 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 17:06
Re: Oxymoron Alert 508 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:28
Re: Oxymoron Alert 565 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 17:36
Re: Oxymoron Alert 452 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:47
Re: Oxymoron Alert 449 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 18:59
Surely you Jest 482 WonderWho 29-Jun-16 19:59
Re: Surely you Jest 526 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 20:29
Re: Surely you Jest 488 WonderWho 29-Jun-16 20:48
Re: Oxymoron Alert 493 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 17:32
N/T 468 Merrell 01-Jul-16 17:22
Re: Oxymoron Alert 555 Warwick 29-Jun-16 17:15
Re: Oxymoron Alert 562 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 17:24
Say what? 530 Warwick 30-Jun-16 14:27
Re: Say what? 441 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 15:16
Re: Say what? 518 Warwick 01-Jul-16 16:55
Re: Say what? 514 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 17:10
Re: Say what? 538 Warwick 01-Jul-16 17:28
Re: Say what? 586 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 15:26
Re: Say what? 512 Warwick 01-Jul-16 16:51
The Lackey Called John Snape 464 loveritas 29-Jun-16 11:14
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 497 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 11:38
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 578 loveritas 29-Jun-16 11:55
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 484 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 12:01
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 494 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:16
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 604 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:33
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 470 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:47
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 566 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:58
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 449 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:09
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 585 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:28
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 494 eyeofhorus33 29-Jun-16 16:54
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 526 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:01
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 502 eyeofhorus33 29-Jun-16 17:10
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 554 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:30
Re: Lackeys 526 Audrey 29-Jun-16 15:59
Re: Lackeys 485 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:08
Re: Lackeys 568 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:31
Re: Lackeys 446 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:54
Re: Lackeys 461 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:06
Re: Lackeys 516 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 17:37
Re: Lackeys 445 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:43
Re: Lackeys 538 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 18:46
Re: Lackeys 542 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:48
Re: Lackeys 540 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 19:19
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 563 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 12:40
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 520 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 13:35
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 444 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:38
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 457 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 14:42
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 514 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 15:16
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 549 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:50
'Officially' in the gutter. 543 DScribr 29-Jun-16 20:16
Scotts 'New" Book 568 DScribr 29-Jun-16 03:36
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 526 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:27
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 482 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 14:07
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 508 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:44
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 538 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 15:48
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 478 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:57
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 527 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 16:07
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 488 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:14
n/t 524 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:59
The Need For Proof. 507 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:56
Re: The Need For Proof. 541 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 20:00
Hypocrisy 573 DScribr 29-Jun-16 20:10
Re: Hypocrisy 482 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 20:19
Re: Hypocrisy 503 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 20:56
Re: Hypocrisy 468 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 21:01
Re: Hypocrisy 515 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Hypocrisy 528 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 21:36
Re: Hypocrisy 492 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 22:21
Re: Hypocrisy 506 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:55
Re: Hypocrisy 435 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:53
Re: Hypocrisy denied, but..... 557 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:50
Re: Hypocrisy 520 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:48
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 480 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:49
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 480 cladking 29-Jun-16 03:48
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 546 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 05:09
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 440 cladking 29-Jun-16 19:12


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