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Martin Stower Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Merrell Wrote:
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> > > Audrey Wrote:
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> > > > Stower is a linguist?
> > >
> > > This is a term often (although not wholly
> > > accurately) used to describe people who speak
> > > several languages, when it's more properly
> the
> > >
> sci
> entific study of languages.

> > >
> > > Martin has studied linguistics in the context
> of
> > > cognitive science. He would not claim,
> however,
> > > that this makes him a linguist. He has
> > > contributed to projects in natural language
> > > processing, but, again, would not claim that
> this
> > > makes him a computational linguist.
> > >
> > > His interest in Egyptology is purely amateur,
> and
> > > he has never claimed otherwise.
> > >
> > > Lawton and Ogilvie-Herald don’t actually
> call
> > > Martin a linguist as such. They call him a
> > > “researcher”, a catch-all often applied
> to
> > > those on the “alternative” side, who
> usually
> > > lack formal credentials in the topics they
> > > discuss.
> >
> > Nevertheless they use Martin Stower, who it
> > transpires is non credentialed and "purely
> amateur
> > and has never claimed otherwise", in order to
> > buttress and underpin their argument.
> > Could this be considered somewhat disingenuous?
>
>
> No, John, they use me as a source of arguments and
> they acknowledge me as the source of these
> arguments. They present the arguments and leave
> the rest to the reader. They do not call me an
> “expert” and there is no appeal to authority
> (as noted below)—whereas you’ve made it
> abundantly clear here that an appeal to authority
> is precisely what Creighton has produced and this
> is how you see it yourself.

Which is exactly what Scott has done ..
He's identified and recognised an "expert". The one and only "expert" in the field as far as I am aware. (myself)
The expertise and method has been described, leaving the "ordinary reader" free to carry out their own analyses and draw there own conclusions.
Time and time again we say carry out your own analyses and draw your own conclusions.
How many times do we need to repeat it?



> > > > What credentials does Stower have making
> his
> > > > opinion believable?
> > >
> > > What credentials does Scott Creighton have
> which
> > > make his opinion believable?
> >
> > In terms of the brush stroke issue, Scott has
> no
> > credentials whatsoever. It is for this reason
> that
> > he very wisely sought the advice and opinion of
> a
> > fully credentialed and degreed expert in brush
> > stroke sequencing.
> > One Snape-Ellison M.A.
>
> Fully credentialed and degreed expert in brush
> stroke sequencing!

The FIRST and ONLY fully degreed expert in brush stroke sequencing in this field. The practice of sequencing of brush strokes.
It seems that Egyptology has failed to identify this analytical process.
I did.
Which I'm fully prepared to share, so that "ordinary readers" can carry out their own analyses and draw their own conclusions.


>
> Most of us have worked this stuff out before the
> age of five,
> [url=http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,10
> 52112,1055762#msg-1055762&v=t]remember[/url]?—an
> d you’re trying to con us that it’s
> specialised, esoteric knowledge which requires
> credentials to comment on?
>
> So, will you be showing us your published work on
> [i]brush stroke sequencing[/i] in the work of
> Roger Hilton (say)?
>
> Will you be showing us some of your paintings?

Why? What do my paintings have to do with anything?


>
> Past time for “the emperor has no clothes” on
> this one.

Ridiculous statement. The "clothes" have been demonstrated in the methodology.
The "clothes" have been freely given away and are free for anyone who cares to use them.



>
> And, let me remind you, Scott Creighton has no
> credentials in any of the stuff he talks about.

Were talking about ME, the one and only expert in brush stroke sequencing. Scott had the intelligence to seek expert advice on issues outside of his knowledge base and field.
A fact which is being fully and ably demonstrated here by yourself. He sought the advice of an expert.

>
> > > What credentials does Graham Hancock have
> which
> > > make his opinion believable?
> >
> > Again Graham Hancock actively and constantly
> seeks
> > the advice of credentialed experts and
> > specialists.
>
> I’ve done some of that myself.

Good for you ..


>
> As for Graham Hancock, would you like to give an
> example? He’s clearly selective in which
> experts and specialists he believes and which not.
> What credentials does he have to make this
> choice?

The professional integrity of GH is not the issue here.


>
> If the books are just compilations of what
> credentialed experts and specialists say,
> where’s the room for Graham Hancock?

Who said they were .. JUST....


>
> Who, let me remind you, has no credentials in any
> of the stuff he talks about. Pretty dumb to do
> this huffing and puffing about credentials on
> Graham Hancock’s Message Board!

Not relevant..


>
> > > Martin's approached the Khufu forgery
> question
> > > much as a journalist would. He read the
> material,
> > > made sure he understood it, then explained it.
>
> > > Where possible, he's run it past qualified
> > > Egyptologists. If people are persuaded by
> his
> > > arguments, it’s because they follow them in
> > > detail and exercise their intelligence. No
> appeal
> > > to authority is made.
> >
> > All well and good, the question arising are
> > egyptologists the best people to comment on
> > painting? (the application of paint to a
> surface,
> > usually by brush)
> > Since the dawn of Egyptology I am not aware of
> any
> > egyptologist even recognising the potential of
> > this methodology.
> > Up until now it has gone un-noticed. Hidden in
> > plain sight.
> > As far as I am aware I am the first to both
> > recognise the potential and utilise this
> > methodology.
> > As far as I am aware Scott Creighton is the
> first
> > author to employ a/the specialist in this
> field.
>
> But John, most of us have applied paint with a
> brush by the age of five! Remember?

Yes straightforward and easy to understand isn't it? Beautiful simplicity.
Which begs the question why hasn't Egyptology and those such as yourself not already recognised it and were totally unaware of it until I was gracious enough to bring it to your attention.
In fact even within this post you are questioning its viability.
It seems to have caused quite a stir hasn't it.



>
> Do readers need higher degrees in Fine Art to
> follow the argument? No? Then it can’t be that
> esoteric. On the contrary, it’s precisely an
> appeal to common experience which does not require
> a specialist at either end. What we have here is
> an argument from authority con job and nothing
> but.

No it does not require a degree in Art to follow the argument, but it seems that it did require a degree in Art and expertise in Art to bring the process and method to the attention of one and all, including yourself.
Now that you have been made aware of it, by myself, yours truly.
You now appear to be quite upset and resentful of this revelation.
I'm not sure that this genie is going to go back into the bottle.
Especially in view of the amount of bandwidth you seem to be dedicating to making the world at large aware of it.
Thank you ..


>
> And you’re dead wrong about being first to
> “recognise the potential and utilise this
> methodology”. Houdin commented on the brush
> sequence—and one or two calligraphers were
> discussing the material on Unexplained Mysteries
> in the context of their interest.

Good for them.. Not quite the same application is it?
The method has been in use for at least a century.
As far as I am aware I am the first to apply it to the cartouche in question.
I know of no other reference to this method being applied to this issue.




>
> Heard of palaeography? You think you have
> anything on specialists in hieratic or demotic?

This has nothing at all to do with the reading of signs and symbols.
It is totally about the physical process of the application of paint to a surface... Painting..



>
> > This is very similar to the Schoch/Sphinx
> > scenario, where it was argued that Schoch's
> lack
> > of egyptological credentials somehow precluded
> him
> > from commenting on the sphinx erosion patterns.
> > In that egyptological erosion somehow differed
> > from geological erosion.
>
> And other geologists differed, so don’t regard
> this as a done deal which can make your point.

Who said that it was a done deal .?? It's an analytical process applied to a problem.


>
> > > > So far as I know he has no training,
> education, or
> > > > field experience that would qualify him on
> > > > "Linguistic and interpretation issues".
> > > > No training in hieroglyphs or languages.
> > >
> > > A post in the other thread linked to a
> webpage
> > > stating that Martin has a professional
> interest in
> > > cognitive science; and, as I stated above,
> he's
> > > studied linguistics in that context.
> > >
> > > Lawton and Ogilvie-Herald don't call him an
> > > “expert” as such, or ask people to accept
> what
> > > he says on that basis. On the contrary, they
> > > summarise the relevant arguments (pp.
> 100–103 in
> > > the hardback edition) and leave the reader to
> > > decide on that basis.
> >
> > They sought his expertise in that field and
> > proclaimed so.
>
> BS.
>
> Quote please.


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Re: Expert? Specialist? 556 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 14:09
Re: Expert? Specialist? 610 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 02:17
Re: Expert? Specialist? 595 eyeofhorus33 27-Jun-16 16:52
Re: Expert? Specialist? 606 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:40
Re: Expert? Specialist? 593 Audrey 27-Jun-16 20:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 714 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 20:17
Re: Expert? Specialist? 590 Audrey 27-Jun-16 21:25
Re: Expert? Specialist? 555 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 21:52
Re: Expert? Specialist? 604 Merrell 28-Jun-16 09:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 586 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 09:30
Re: Expert? Specialist? 654 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 11:26
Re: Expert? Specialist? 624 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 12:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 607 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 14:15
Re: Expert? Specialist? 637 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 14:43
Re: Expert? Specialist? 570 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 15:10
Re: Expert? Specialist? 615 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 15:30
Re: Expert? Specialist? 633 Merrell 28-Jun-16 15:36
Re: Expert? Specialist? 574 Audrey 28-Jun-16 16:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 638 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 18:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 627 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 18:43
Re: Expert? Specialist? 606 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 20:22
Re: Expert? Specialist? 594 Jon Ellison 28-Jun-16 21:12
Re: Expert? Specialist? 658 Audrey 28-Jun-16 19:15
Re: Expert? Specialist? 705 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 01:35
Re: Expert? Specialist? 608 Audrey 29-Jun-16 02:41
Re: Expert? Specialist? 545 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 19:28
Re: Expert? Specialist? 544 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 20:43
Re: Expert? Specialist? 618 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 21:01
Re: Expert? Specialist? 596 Merrell 28-Jun-16 20:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 597 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 21:11
Re: Expert? Specialist? 634 Merrell 28-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 654 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 21:42
Re: No parallel? 602 Thunderbird 28-Jun-16 22:27
Re: No parallel? 574 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 22:41
Re: Expert? Specialist? 623 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 04:49
Re: Expert? Specialist? 603 Martin Stower 28-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 627 R Avry Wilson 28-Jun-16 19:31
Re: R Avery Wilson 557 Thunderbird 28-Jun-16 20:47
Thanks, Brad 608 drrayeye 28-Jun-16 22:42
Re: Expert? Specialist? 592 Audrey 29-Jun-16 00:39
Re: Expert? Specialist? 547 R Avry Wilson 29-Jun-16 02:12
Re: Expert? Specialist? 519 Audrey 29-Jun-16 02:32
Re: Not all geeks are equal : ) 623 Thunderbird 29-Jun-16 06:32
Re: Not all geeks are equal : ) 581 cladking 29-Jun-16 19:01
Re: Expert? Specialist? 556 eyeofhorus33 28-Jun-16 21:06
Re: Expert? Specialist? 566 Merrell 28-Jun-16 21:19
Re: Expert? Specialist? 532 eyeofhorus33 28-Jun-16 21:33
Re: Expert? Specialist? 666 Corpuscles 30-Jun-16 00:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 526 Audrey 30-Jun-16 02:41
Re: Expert? Specialist? 509 R Avry Wilson 30-Jun-16 03:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 510 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 03:27
Re: Expert? Specialist? 462 R Avry Wilson 30-Jun-16 04:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 458 Audrey 30-Jun-16 05:29
Re: Expert? Specialist? 531 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 05:52
Re: Expert? Specialist? 542 eyeofhorus33 30-Jun-16 06:10
Re: Expert? Specialist? 610 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 06:37
Re: Ignore the evidence 586 Thunderbird 30-Jun-16 06:08
Re: Expert? Specialist? 575 Audrey 30-Jun-16 04:09
Re: Expert? Specialist? 604 R Avry Wilson 30-Jun-16 04:34
Re: Expert? Specialist? 592 Audrey 30-Jun-16 05:06
Re: Expert? Specialist? 573 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 15:07
Re: Expert? Specialist? 578 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 06:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 528 Corpuscles 30-Jun-16 23:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 548 Audrey 30-Jun-16 23:37
Re: Expert? Specialist? 489 Martin Stower 30-Jun-16 23:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 579 Audrey 01-Jul-16 00:36
Re: Expert? Specialist? 581 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 00:50
Re: Expert? Specialist? 464 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:09
Re: Expert? Specialist? 593 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 503 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:57
Re: Expert? Specialist? 601 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 617 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 04:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 586 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 14:55
Please, Steven 599 drrayeye 01-Jul-16 00:44
Re: Please, Steven 575 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:19
Re: Please, Steven 634 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:56
Re: Please, Steven 680 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 04:24
Re: Please, Steven 531 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 15:01
Re: Expert? Specialist? 533 Origyptian 26-Jun-16 18:12
Re: Expert? Specialist? 614 Merrell 26-Jun-16 19:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 543 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 00:03
Re: Expert? Specialist? 559 Merrell 27-Jun-16 07:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 579 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 13:19
Re: Expert? Specialist? 485 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 13:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 560 Merrell 27-Jun-16 14:56
Re: Expert? Specialist? 538 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 15:11
Re: Expert? Specialist? 529 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:28
Re: Expert? Specialist? 511 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:42
Re: Expert? Specialist? 651 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 17:37
Re: Expert? Specialist? 573 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 17:45
Re: Expert? Specialist? 621 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 21:13
Re: Expert? Specialist? 653 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 22:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 554 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 00:21
Re: Expert? Specialist? 642 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 582 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:40
Re: Expert? Specialist? 580 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 468 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 666 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 16:24
Re: Expert? Specialist? 502 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:30
Re: Expert? Specialist? 553 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 21:27
Re: Expert? Specialist? 554 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 01:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 529 eyeofhorus33 27-Jun-16 17:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 643 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:51
Re: Gatekeeping 508 Thunderbird 27-Jun-16 16:38
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 608 Audrey 26-Jun-16 01:54
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 749 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:24
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 547 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:42
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 614 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:18
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 616 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 03:27
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 528 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:31
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 633 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:40
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 526 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:46
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 541 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:52
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 615 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 04:23
No Moderator Conspiracy 547 loveritas 27-Jun-16 05:55
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 576 Morten 25-Jun-16 23:19
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 547 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:37
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 598 Audrey 25-Jun-16 23:51
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 510 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 00:45
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 633 Audrey 26-Jun-16 01:49
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 675 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:12
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 504 DScribr 30-Jun-16 02:48
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 583 Merrell 25-Jun-16 10:47
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 543 Merrell 26-Jun-16 13:30
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 527 Audrey 24-Jun-16 16:43
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 680 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 20:08
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 592 Audrey 24-Jun-16 20:33
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 658 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 20:47
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 696 Merrell 25-Jun-16 10:59
Re: Perring - Lady Arbuthnot chamber 636 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 11:38
Post o' the week! 574 DScribr 22-Jun-16 21:07
Summertime In England 602 loveritas 21-Jun-16 05:52
Re: Who Was Khufu? 651 DUNE 21-Jun-16 15:14
Re: Who Was Khufu? 537 Jon Ellison 21-Jun-16 15:22
Re: Who Was Khufu? 645 DUNE 21-Jun-16 16:05
Re: Minute Examination 619 Thunderbird 21-Jun-16 18:12
Re: Minute Examination 581 Martin Stower 21-Jun-16 18:48
Gilligan Accepts Michaelangelo Challenge 739 loveritas 22-Jun-16 03:34
Re: Gilligan Accepts Michaelangelo Challenge 597 Martin Stower 22-Jun-16 20:20
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 637 DScribr 23-Jun-16 19:14
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 694 Martin Stower 23-Jun-16 21:37
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 595 DScribr 23-Jun-16 23:00
Court Rocked By Stalker Allegation! 629 loveritas 22-Jun-16 23:20
Re: Court Rocked By Stalker Allegation! 683 Martin Stower 22-Jun-16 23:57
Creighton's Legal Team In Hiding 700 loveritas 23-Jun-16 23:54
it all boils down to this 604 Warwick 25-Jun-16 19:21
How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 610 Corpuscles 25-Jun-16 23:33
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 632 Audrey 26-Jun-16 00:19
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 623 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 01:24
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 552 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:17
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 609 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:33
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 634 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:48
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 529 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 02:52
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 581 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:57
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 632 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 02:59
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 481 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:40
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 573 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:46
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 687 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 04:04
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 604 Audrey 26-Jun-16 04:47
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 639 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 13:49
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 561 Warwick 26-Jun-16 17:32
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 582 Corpuscles 26-Jun-16 07:01
Re: Who Was Khufu? 622 atul.seth 28-Jun-16 12:48
Re: Who Was Khufu? 590 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 15:13
Re: Who Was Khufu? 645 Howard West 28-Jun-16 15:37
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 592 Brian Patterson 28-Jun-16 16:16
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 602 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 18:09
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 547 wonderwall 28-Jun-16 20:52
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 596 Brian Patterson 28-Jun-16 21:22
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 667 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 04:46
Lackeys 661 loveritas 29-Jun-16 07:19
Re: Lackeys 629 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 08:06
Re: Lackeys 584 Corpuscles 29-Jun-16 09:41
Re: Lackeys 598 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 09:45
Re: Lackeys 536 Audrey 29-Jun-16 15:52
Re: Lackeys 597 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:05
Oxymoron Alert 495 Warwick 29-Jun-16 16:36
Re: Oxymoron Alert 567 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:58
Re: Oxymoron Alert 523 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 17:06
Re: Oxymoron Alert 556 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:28
Re: Oxymoron Alert 643 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 17:36
Re: Oxymoron Alert 488 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:47
Re: Oxymoron Alert 489 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 18:59
Surely you Jest 547 WonderWho 29-Jun-16 19:59
Re: Surely you Jest 565 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 20:29
Re: Surely you Jest 555 WonderWho 29-Jun-16 20:48
Re: Oxymoron Alert 554 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 17:32
N/T 524 Merrell 01-Jul-16 17:22
Re: Oxymoron Alert 602 Warwick 29-Jun-16 17:15
Re: Oxymoron Alert 613 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 17:24
Say what? 605 Warwick 30-Jun-16 14:27
Re: Say what? 504 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 15:16
Re: Say what? 585 Warwick 01-Jul-16 16:55
Re: Say what? 553 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 17:10
Re: Say what? 583 Warwick 01-Jul-16 17:28
Re: Say what? 635 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 15:26
Re: Say what? 568 Warwick 01-Jul-16 16:51
The Lackey Called John Snape 507 loveritas 29-Jun-16 11:14
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 549 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 11:38
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 638 loveritas 29-Jun-16 11:55
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 526 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 12:01
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 533 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:16
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 645 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:33
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 519 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:47
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 633 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:58
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 495 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:09
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 634 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:28
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 551 eyeofhorus33 29-Jun-16 16:54
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 577 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:01
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 543 eyeofhorus33 29-Jun-16 17:10
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 615 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:30
Re: Lackeys 570 Audrey 29-Jun-16 15:59
Re: Lackeys 548 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:08
Re: Lackeys 614 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:31
Re: Lackeys 486 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:54
Re: Lackeys 497 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:06
Re: Lackeys 570 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 17:37
Re: Lackeys 490 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:43
Re: Lackeys 585 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 18:46
Re: Lackeys 580 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:48
Re: Lackeys 598 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 19:19
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 610 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 12:40
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 587 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 13:35
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 493 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:38
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 495 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 14:42
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 568 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 15:16
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 607 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:50
'Officially' in the gutter. 624 DScribr 29-Jun-16 20:16
Scotts 'New" Book 638 DScribr 29-Jun-16 03:36
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 581 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:27
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 517 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 14:07
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 557 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:44
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 584 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 15:48
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 536 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:57
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 572 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 16:07
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 536 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:14
n/t 565 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:59
The Need For Proof. 550 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:56
Re: The Need For Proof. 598 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 20:00
Hypocrisy 620 DScribr 29-Jun-16 20:10
Re: Hypocrisy 532 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 20:19
Re: Hypocrisy 542 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 20:56
Re: Hypocrisy 507 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 21:01
Re: Hypocrisy 555 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Hypocrisy 578 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 21:36
Re: Hypocrisy 533 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 22:21
Re: Hypocrisy 546 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:55
Re: Hypocrisy 487 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:53
Re: Hypocrisy denied, but..... 609 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:50
Re: Hypocrisy 559 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:48
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 531 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:49
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 519 cladking 29-Jun-16 03:48
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 593 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 05:09
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 478 cladking 29-Jun-16 19:12


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