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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Martin Stower Wrote:
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> > Some will be asking the first cogent question
> > suggested: “If he had ‘handwriting experts’
> > on board, why did he need the other people?”
>
> Why would anyone ask this? it's very simple for
> anyone to verify whether the "handwriting experts"
> are accuractly describing what we see there.

No, it isn’t.

First of all, the readers do not have the text in front of them. Although Vyse’s manuscript is an a public archive, there are obvious practical difficulties in getting to see it, even for readers within the UK, never mind those outside. Just ask Creighton. He made a big enough deal of the circa 800 mile round trip he had to take to see it. Reproducing and publishing the material entails considerable copyright difficulties, which is why it is not reproduced in the book in question (Creighton’s last one, The Secret Chamber of Osiris).

Even if readers could see the manuscript, the writing is largely illegible: “a very difficult hand” said one of the staff at (what was then) the Bucks County Archives.

I’ve seen it. You haven’t.

So, again, readers without the material in front of them, asked to accept Creighton’s claims about it on no other basis than his “Uncle Tom Cobley and all” list of people who supposedly helped come up with the reading, would be entirely reasonable in asking why, if he has accredited “handwriting experts” on board, does he pad his list with people who are not “handwriting experts”—unless these “handwriting experts” were more equivocal in their support than we are led to believe?

> > Some will be thinking: “If we don’t even know
> > the names of these ‘experts’, how can we
> > verify their bona fides? How do we know they
> > exist at all?”
>
> Again, what difference does that make to the
> substance of Scott's hypothesis? If, instead,
> Scott said "a homeless bum living in a box in a
> back alley noticed the following about the brush
> strokes", how would that at all change the
> substance of the observations? The brush strokes
> either show those characteristics or they don't,
> regardless of the "expertise" of the person who
> made those observations.

Brush strokes? What are you talking about? This is about Vyse’s manuscript.

I know your comprehension is poor, but really. Try reading the post again. I made it perfectly clear what I was talking about.

This is a case where Creighton’s readers have nothing but his statements and the alleged endorsement of alleged “experts” to go on.

This is not about the substance of Scott’s hypothesis. What it’s about is what’s offered in support of that hypothesis and specifically the rhetoric used to persuade the reader in its favour.

> > Some will be thinking that if these “experts”
> > were unwilling to attach their names and
> > professional reputations to what Creighton wrote,
> > their “endorsement” isn’t worth much.
>
> Anyone who thinks that and isn't alert enough to
> judge for themselves whether the brush
> descriptions are valid doesn't understand how to
> interpret such reports in the first place. It's as
> if you're suggesting people should simply accept
> what authorities say simply because they have a
> track record of "expertise" regardless of whether
> what they're saying has any corroborative basis in
> the evidence.

This a complete inversion of the truth. (Failing to understand what the example is hasn’t helped.)

This is precisely a case of Creighton asking people to accept what authorities (allegedly) say, simply because they (allegedly) say it.

Looking further into Creighton’s use of the word “expert” has led to progress on the identity of his unnamed “handwriting experts”:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22the+archive+department+staff+at+the+mitchell+library%22

“The Archive Department staff at the Mitchell Library, Glasgow, also deserves recognition for its generous and expert assistance in transcribing parts of the Howard Vyse Journal.”

> > As for me, I don’t need a graphologist,
> > palaeographer or anyone else to tell me that
> > Creighton and his army of helpers (“handwriting
> > experts” included) failed to spot something
> > which is actually quite hard to miss and makes
> > nonsense of what he says.
>
> And yet you don't give the reader the same respect
> to make their own interpretations as well.

What are you blathering about? The readers don’t have the material to interpret, as explained above.

To borrow a Creightonism: patience, laddie.

> If it's so obvious to you that Scott and his
> experts are wrong, why isn't that good enough for
> you to simply state that and then move on instead
> of persisting in vilifying the guy [SNIP]

Blah, blah, blah. It’s not like he and his clique have vilified me, is it?

We have here in all of the above an excellent example of the extraordinary double standard applied by the clique: the far lesser standard they hold Creighton and themselves to.

M.

Edited 2019-11-05 to replace a stale link.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05-Nov-19 15:04 by Martin Stower.

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Re: Expert? Specialist? 544 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 14:55
Please, Steven 577 drrayeye 01-Jul-16 00:44
Re: Please, Steven 551 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:19
Re: Please, Steven 616 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:56
Re: Please, Steven 658 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 04:24
Re: Please, Steven 507 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 15:01
Re: Expert? Specialist? 515 Origyptian 26-Jun-16 18:12
Re: Expert? Specialist? 562 Merrell 26-Jun-16 19:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 524 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 00:03
Re: Expert? Specialist? 524 Merrell 27-Jun-16 07:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 558 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 13:19
Re: Expert? Specialist? 457 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 13:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 539 Merrell 27-Jun-16 14:56
Re: Expert? Specialist? 520 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 15:11
Re: Expert? Specialist? 507 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:28
Re: Expert? Specialist? 494 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:42
Re: Expert? Specialist? 617 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 17:37
Re: Expert? Specialist? 553 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 17:45
Re: Expert? Specialist? 601 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 21:13
Re: Expert? Specialist? 630 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 22:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 536 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 00:21
Re: Expert? Specialist? 603 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 564 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:40
Re: Expert? Specialist? 559 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 450 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 637 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 16:24
Re: Expert? Specialist? 472 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:30
Re: Expert? Specialist? 533 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 21:27
Re: Expert? Specialist? 528 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 01:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 509 eyeofhorus33 27-Jun-16 17:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 609 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:51
Re: Gatekeeping 477 Thunderbird 27-Jun-16 16:38
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 581 Audrey 26-Jun-16 01:54
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 705 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:24
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 517 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:42
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 588 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:18
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 587 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 03:27
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 506 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:31
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 605 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:40
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 494 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:46
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 523 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:52
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 557 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 04:23
No Moderator Conspiracy 523 loveritas 27-Jun-16 05:55
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 540 Morten 25-Jun-16 23:19
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 513 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:37
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 574 Audrey 25-Jun-16 23:51
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 485 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 00:45
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 610 Audrey 26-Jun-16 01:49
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 653 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:12
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 485 DScribr 30-Jun-16 02:48
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 564 Merrell 25-Jun-16 10:47
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 515 Merrell 26-Jun-16 13:30
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 507 Audrey 24-Jun-16 16:43
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 657 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 20:08
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 565 Audrey 24-Jun-16 20:33
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 636 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 20:47
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 674 Merrell 25-Jun-16 10:59
Re: Perring - Lady Arbuthnot chamber 613 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 11:38
Post o' the week! 552 DScribr 22-Jun-16 21:07
Summertime In England 569 loveritas 21-Jun-16 05:52
Re: Who Was Khufu? 613 DUNE 21-Jun-16 15:14
Re: Who Was Khufu? 516 Jon Ellison 21-Jun-16 15:22
Re: Who Was Khufu? 622 DUNE 21-Jun-16 16:05
Re: Minute Examination 597 Thunderbird 21-Jun-16 18:12
Re: Minute Examination 563 Martin Stower 21-Jun-16 18:48
Gilligan Accepts Michaelangelo Challenge 719 loveritas 22-Jun-16 03:34
Re: Gilligan Accepts Michaelangelo Challenge 580 Martin Stower 22-Jun-16 20:20
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 617 DScribr 23-Jun-16 19:14
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 670 Martin Stower 23-Jun-16 21:37
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 576 DScribr 23-Jun-16 23:00
Court Rocked By Stalker Allegation! 609 loveritas 22-Jun-16 23:20
Re: Court Rocked By Stalker Allegation! 658 Martin Stower 22-Jun-16 23:57
Creighton's Legal Team In Hiding 661 loveritas 23-Jun-16 23:54
it all boils down to this 582 Warwick 25-Jun-16 19:21
How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 587 Corpuscles 25-Jun-16 23:33
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 607 Audrey 26-Jun-16 00:19
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 599 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 01:24
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 525 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:17
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 585 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:33
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 609 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:48
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 504 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 02:52
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 545 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:57
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 600 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 02:59
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 461 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:40
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 523 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:46
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 659 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 04:04
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 585 Audrey 26-Jun-16 04:47
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 618 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 13:49
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 535 Warwick 26-Jun-16 17:32
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 563 Corpuscles 26-Jun-16 07:01
Re: Who Was Khufu? 599 atul.seth 28-Jun-16 12:48
Re: Who Was Khufu? 569 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 15:13
Re: Who Was Khufu? 619 Howard West 28-Jun-16 15:37
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 564 Brian Patterson 28-Jun-16 16:16
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 584 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 18:09
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 517 wonderwall 28-Jun-16 20:52
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 569 Brian Patterson 28-Jun-16 21:22
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 626 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 04:46
Lackeys 640 loveritas 29-Jun-16 07:19
Re: Lackeys 602 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 08:06
Re: Lackeys 561 Corpuscles 29-Jun-16 09:41
Re: Lackeys 574 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 09:45
Re: Lackeys 516 Audrey 29-Jun-16 15:52
Re: Lackeys 568 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:05
Oxymoron Alert 470 Warwick 29-Jun-16 16:36
Re: Oxymoron Alert 522 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:58
Re: Oxymoron Alert 503 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 17:06
Re: Oxymoron Alert 533 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:28
Re: Oxymoron Alert 591 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 17:36
Re: Oxymoron Alert 471 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:47
Re: Oxymoron Alert 471 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 18:59
Surely you Jest 511 WonderWho 29-Jun-16 19:59
Re: Surely you Jest 546 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 20:29
Re: Surely you Jest 514 WonderWho 29-Jun-16 20:48
Re: Oxymoron Alert 529 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 17:32
N/T 503 Merrell 01-Jul-16 17:22
Re: Oxymoron Alert 579 Warwick 29-Jun-16 17:15
Re: Oxymoron Alert 585 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 17:24
Say what? 561 Warwick 30-Jun-16 14:27
Re: Say what? 474 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 15:16
Re: Say what? 549 Warwick 01-Jul-16 16:55
Re: Say what? 535 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 17:10
Re: Say what? 561 Warwick 01-Jul-16 17:28
Re: Say what? 614 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 15:26
Re: Say what? 543 Warwick 01-Jul-16 16:51
The Lackey Called John Snape 489 loveritas 29-Jun-16 11:14
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 523 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 11:38
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 605 loveritas 29-Jun-16 11:55
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 507 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 12:01
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 511 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:16
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 625 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:33
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 493 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:47
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 607 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:58
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 472 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:09
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 608 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:28
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 522 eyeofhorus33 29-Jun-16 16:54
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 550 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:01
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 520 eyeofhorus33 29-Jun-16 17:10
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 575 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:30
Re: Lackeys 550 Audrey 29-Jun-16 15:59
Re: Lackeys 515 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:08
Re: Lackeys 589 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:31
Re: Lackeys 467 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:54
Re: Lackeys 478 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:06
Re: Lackeys 544 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 17:37
Re: Lackeys 467 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:43
Re: Lackeys 560 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 18:46
Re: Lackeys 564 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:48
Re: Lackeys 570 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 19:19
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 589 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 12:40
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 551 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 13:35
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 476 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:38
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 477 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 14:42
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 544 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 15:16
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 580 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:50
'Officially' in the gutter. 574 DScribr 29-Jun-16 20:16
Scotts 'New" Book 611 DScribr 29-Jun-16 03:36
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 553 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:27
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 499 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 14:07
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 535 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:44
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 563 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 15:48
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 506 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:57
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 548 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 16:07
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 516 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:14
n/t 543 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:59
The Need For Proof. 527 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:56
Re: The Need For Proof. 570 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 20:00
Hypocrisy 597 DScribr 29-Jun-16 20:10
Re: Hypocrisy 505 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 20:19
Re: Hypocrisy 523 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 20:56
Re: Hypocrisy 488 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 21:01
Re: Hypocrisy 536 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Hypocrisy 553 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 21:36
Re: Hypocrisy 513 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 22:21
Re: Hypocrisy 526 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:55
Re: Hypocrisy 459 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:53
Re: Hypocrisy denied, but..... 583 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:50
Re: Hypocrisy 543 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:48
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 508 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:49
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 502 cladking 29-Jun-16 03:48
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 575 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 05:09
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 459 cladking 29-Jun-16 19:12


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