> R Avry Wilson Wrote:
> > Got it. I see I've stated that in a way perhaps
> > taken as telling you something you didn't know.
> > Apologies, and I clarify it was meant as note
> > other readers, in case it was missed.
> In hindsight the fault is mine for being to vague.
> Maybe that's the little Riesner in me...
> > Not off hand, no, so is it odd? Yes. Agreed. :)
> Never seen it before myself. Odd. Could mean
> nothing. Maybe something. Just spitballing here.
> > Doesn't hurt to investigate.
> Yeah, just throwin it out there.
> > I wouldn't say so. It's just a different glyph,
> > i.e I don't see a meaning to their
> > inclusion/exclusion. Doesn't mean there might
> > one. :)
> I respect that, but I disagree. I just find it
> hard to believe it does not mean something.
> > My jury's out on it's true provenance. Still,
> > placenta/female connection is more obvious than
> > placenta/male one, and may (loosely offered) be
> > support for Khufu being female. What about the
> > marriage and children? Can you also determine
> > 'her' consorts were male?
> My thought was possibly Khunum Khuf was the
> husband, i.e. king and co-regent which is the
> explanation for the two different names. Just
> thinking out loud, but it would be interesting to
> see if there was anything more familial to it. A
> good point.
> > It was an aside. :) Relates to how Manetho, et
> > did not (or may not have) record(ed) the 'pure'
> > phonetic value of 'kh'. (ps, LOL, I saw it)
> Lol. Shhh.
> > Oh, ok, sorry.
> No need. My ignorance is professed. I am a stones
> and bones kind of guy. Not enough time in the day
> to learn the nuances of AE writing which smart
> guys like you can figure it out for me.
> > There really isn't a 'why', more a matter of
> > that's just the glyphs they used to spell the
> > name. Let's look at them how they literally
> > up in the cartouchii (forgive my MdeC here):
> > Khufu is Aa1 (lined circle, 'Kh') G43
> > (chick, 'u') I9 (horned viper, 'f') G43 (chick,
> > 'u')
> > whereas
> > Khafre is N5 (sun disc, 'ra') N27
> > sun, 'kha') I9 (horned viper, 'f')
> > Direct transposition would have us think the
> > 'lined circle' is related to the 'sun disc'.
> > much ado in my own research it became obvious
> > didn't really matter if the 'kh' in Khufu is a
> > disc with wisps of clouds in front of it. I
> > it was a stepping-stone investigation in my
> > hieroglyph 'career', but in the end I felt it
> > a sub-step point of contention. Still, I am
> > curious why the Aa1 (lined circle) is
> > unequivocally an N5 (sun disc) in the Seti King
> > List. Not the best pic, but I am a bit rushed,
> > there should be one out there:
> > If anything, we could speculate there is a
> > annotation for Khufu.
> If I recall in another thread, which I think I
> quoted myself before from, the idea was brought up
> the lines represented maybe the rising or setting
> > Khnum is par
> > excellence the god associated with birth,
> > where he is the ba of Re, a 'placental'
> > designation for Aa1 may contextualize the solar
> > aspect. Comes full (lined?) circle, as I see
> > Open for discussion, though. :)
> Interesting again.
> > Not related to this thread on Khufu, but I
> > many years am still at odds with the phonetic
> > positional naming convention in cartouches
> > (reading glyphs out of order.)
> If you say so, I am with you. Me too!
> > 'Vyse'. Reeeeally.
> Thanks for the response by the way.
I wonder why Cladking doesn't get involved in these explicit glyph discussions?
Ok I'm lying. I know exactly why.