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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Hi Avry.
>
> R Avry Wilson Wrote:
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> -----
> > The children depicted are those of Seneb,
>
> I have no doubt they are.

Got it. I see I've stated that in a way perhaps taken as telling you something you didn't know. Apologies, and I clarify it was meant as note for other readers, in case it was missed.


> > and are
> > honorary names to his regents.
>
> I'm sure.
>
> > This is not a
> > female Khufu (pharaoh).
>
> I did not say it was, or not, and am noting their
> names are Djedefre and Khufu with the latter being
> female which seems odd to me, at the least, to
> name one's daughter after a male
> pharaoh. Do you know of other examples where
> females are named after male pharaohs?

Not off hand, no, so is it odd? Yes. Agreed. :)


> > Also note there are
> > actually 3 names written.
>
> > It is thought the third
> > child is not depicted in relief because of
> being
> > stillborn, but this is speculation on why the
> > child is not there. See Veronique Dasen
> "Dwarfs
> > in Ancient Egypt and Greece"
, p.127.
>
> Yes, the "companion of Radjedef". A daughter.
> Dwarfs in Ancient Egypt and Greece
>
> I bring this up as it relates to co-regents and am
> just raising the possibility Khufu may have been a
> woman. Obviously it is idle speculation, but for
> several reasons I think it is an open possibility
> though it may very well not be the case as well.

Doesn't hurt to investigate.

> > You wrote:"the lines in the circle are
> > obviously not meant to represent the "kh" in
> > "Khufu" and could not be one and the same as a
> > sieve despite appearances. No other pharaoh
> > required this not even KHafre"

> >
> > The lines themselves are not the 'kh' phone,
> per
> > se, rather the complete glyph Aa1 is. Whether
> in
> > actuality a sieve or placenta is depicted is
> still
> > inconclusive (note Gardiner's '?', Egyptian
> > Grammar p.539) but we can be fairly sure of the
> > phonetic value (review ibid p.583-586).
>
> Right which is basically what I am saying is that
> the lines in the sieve have no bearing on the KH
> which is the point then as to why they are there
> at all as well as being unique to Khufu within a
> cartouche. They must mean something as
> would including them or not including them.

I wouldn't say so. It's just a different glyph, i.e I don't see a meaning to their inclusion/exclusion. Doesn't mean there might be one. :)

> As to the lines which may represent the placenta,
> this is why I phrase it as "have been said to" and
> not "are". Given the sole uniqueness of the lines
> to Khufu, therefore "if true" could it be because
> Khufu was a woman. Personally, I do not think
> these lines represent a placenta, however.

My jury's out on it's true provenance. Still, the placenta/female connection is more obvious than a placenta/male one, and may (loosely offered) be a support for Khufu being female. What about the marriage and children? Can you also determine 'her' consorts were male?


> > For your
> > interest, Aa1 has an associative phone of 'sh'
> > through F32 (animal belly) as the latter is
> seen
> > substituted for N37 (pool). We can therefore
> > appreciate how Khufu might have ended up as
> Shufu
> > / Suphis.
>
> Thanks, but it would still be the same to the AE
> who wrote it would it not? Why would it be written
> with F32 instead of N37 or Vyse versa? I am not
> sure how this matters though as it relates to the
> two separate cartouches.

It was an aside. :) Relates to how Manetho, et al, did not (or may not have) record(ed) the 'pure' phonetic value of 'kh'. (ps, LOL, I saw it)


> > As regards Khafre, his name is not written with
> > Aa1, rather N28 'Kha' ('rising sun' glyph), so
> not
> > comparable with Khufu.
>
> I see that, but why? "Why" as in I have no idea
> what I am talking about so, "why"?


Oh, ok, sorry.

There really isn't a 'why', more a matter of that's just the glyphs they used to spell the name. Let's look at them how they literally line up in the cartouchii (forgive my MdeC here):

Khufu is Aa1 (lined circle, 'Kh') G43 (chick, 'u') I9 (horned viper, 'f') G43 (chick, 'u')

whereas

Khafre is N5 (sun disc, 'ra') N28 (rising sun, 'kha') I9 (horned viper, 'f')

Direct transposition would have us think the 'lined circle' is related to the 'sun disc'. After much ado in my own research it became obvious it didn't really matter if the 'kh' in Khufu is a sun disc with wisps of clouds in front of it. I mean, it was a stepping-stone investigation in my hieroglyph 'career', but in the end I felt it was a sub-step point of contention. Still, I am curious why the Aa1 (lined circle) is unequivocally an N5 (sun disc) in the Seti King List. Not the best pic, but I am a bit rushed, there should be one out there:



If anything, we could speculate there is a solar annotation for Khufu. Khnum is par excellence the god associated with birth, and where he is the ba of Re, a 'placental' designation for Aa1 may contextualize the solar aspect. Comes full (lined?) circle, as I see it. Open for discussion, though. :)

Not related to this thread on Khufu, but I after many years am still at odds with the phonetic positional naming convention in cartouches (reading glyphs out of order.)

Best Regards,
Avry

'Vyse'. Reeeeally.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09-Jun-16 06:23 by R Avry Wilson.

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Re: Expert? Specialist? 493 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 15:07
Re: Expert? Specialist? 502 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 06:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 439 Corpuscles 30-Jun-16 23:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 461 Audrey 30-Jun-16 23:37
Re: Expert? Specialist? 418 Martin Stower 30-Jun-16 23:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 490 Audrey 01-Jul-16 00:36
Re: Expert? Specialist? 500 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 00:50
Re: Expert? Specialist? 381 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:09
Re: Expert? Specialist? 498 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 434 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:57
Re: Expert? Specialist? 524 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 520 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 04:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 483 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 14:55
Please, Steven 517 drrayeye 01-Jul-16 00:44
Re: Please, Steven 490 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:19
Re: Please, Steven 554 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:56
Re: Please, Steven 562 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 04:24
Re: Please, Steven 447 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 15:01
Re: Expert? Specialist? 447 Origyptian 26-Jun-16 18:12
Re: Expert? Specialist? 507 Merrell 26-Jun-16 19:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 470 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 00:03
Re: Expert? Specialist? 434 Merrell 27-Jun-16 07:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 507 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 13:19
Re: Expert? Specialist? 399 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 13:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 480 Merrell 27-Jun-16 14:56
Re: Expert? Specialist? 469 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 15:11
Re: Expert? Specialist? 447 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:28
Re: Expert? Specialist? 436 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:42
Re: Expert? Specialist? 567 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 17:37
Re: Expert? Specialist? 500 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 17:45
Re: Expert? Specialist? 547 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 21:13
Re: Expert? Specialist? 577 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 22:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 483 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 00:21
Re: Expert? Specialist? 538 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 512 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:40
Re: Expert? Specialist? 504 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 398 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 586 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 16:24
Re: Expert? Specialist? 415 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:30
Re: Expert? Specialist? 482 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 21:27
Re: Expert? Specialist? 477 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 01:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 456 eyeofhorus33 27-Jun-16 17:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 525 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:51
Re: Gatekeeping 427 Thunderbird 27-Jun-16 16:38
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 531 Audrey 26-Jun-16 01:54
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 622 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:24
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 462 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:42
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 534 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:18
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 532 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 03:27
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 445 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:31
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 541 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:40
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 438 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:46
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 472 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:52
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 484 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 04:23
No Moderator Conspiracy 466 loveritas 27-Jun-16 05:55
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 475 Morten 25-Jun-16 23:19
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 450 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:37
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 513 Audrey 25-Jun-16 23:51
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 434 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 00:45
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 546 Audrey 26-Jun-16 01:49
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 594 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:12
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 432 DScribr 30-Jun-16 02:48
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 506 Merrell 25-Jun-16 10:47
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 461 Merrell 26-Jun-16 13:30
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 453 Audrey 24-Jun-16 16:43
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 596 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 20:08
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 504 Audrey 24-Jun-16 20:33
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 572 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 20:47
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 603 Merrell 25-Jun-16 10:59
Re: Perring - Lady Arbuthnot chamber 554 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 11:38
Post o' the week! 499 DScribr 22-Jun-16 21:07
Summertime In England 505 loveritas 21-Jun-16 05:52
Re: Who Was Khufu? 560 DUNE 21-Jun-16 15:14
Re: Who Was Khufu? 461 Jon Ellison 21-Jun-16 15:22
Re: Who Was Khufu? 568 DUNE 21-Jun-16 16:05
Re: Minute Examination 547 Thunderbird 21-Jun-16 18:12
Re: Minute Examination 511 Martin Stower 21-Jun-16 18:48
Gilligan Accepts Michaelangelo Challenge 669 loveritas 22-Jun-16 03:34
Re: Gilligan Accepts Michaelangelo Challenge 526 Martin Stower 22-Jun-16 20:20
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 564 DScribr 23-Jun-16 19:14
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 611 Martin Stower 23-Jun-16 21:37
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 519 DScribr 23-Jun-16 23:00
Court Rocked By Stalker Allegation! 543 loveritas 22-Jun-16 23:20
Re: Court Rocked By Stalker Allegation! 601 Martin Stower 22-Jun-16 23:57
Creighton's Legal Team In Hiding 595 loveritas 23-Jun-16 23:54
it all boils down to this 523 Warwick 25-Jun-16 19:21
How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 537 Corpuscles 25-Jun-16 23:33
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 552 Audrey 26-Jun-16 00:19
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 548 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 01:24
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 475 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:17
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 535 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:33
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 550 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:48
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 450 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 02:52
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 488 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:57
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 529 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 02:59
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 415 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:40
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 460 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:46
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 589 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 04:04
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 530 Audrey 26-Jun-16 04:47
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 553 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 13:49
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 474 Warwick 26-Jun-16 17:32
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 509 Corpuscles 26-Jun-16 07:01
Re: Who Was Khufu? 547 atul.seth 28-Jun-16 12:48
Re: Who Was Khufu? 508 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 15:13
Re: Who Was Khufu? 569 Howard West 28-Jun-16 15:37
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 515 Brian Patterson 28-Jun-16 16:16
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 520 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 18:09
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 463 wonderwall 28-Jun-16 20:52
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 504 Brian Patterson 28-Jun-16 21:22
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 559 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 04:46
Lackeys 579 loveritas 29-Jun-16 07:19
Re: Lackeys 547 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 08:06
Re: Lackeys 487 Corpuscles 29-Jun-16 09:41
Re: Lackeys 514 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 09:45
Re: Lackeys 463 Audrey 29-Jun-16 15:52
Re: Lackeys 518 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:05
Oxymoron Alert 404 Warwick 29-Jun-16 16:36
Re: Oxymoron Alert 464 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:58
Re: Oxymoron Alert 450 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 17:06
Re: Oxymoron Alert 482 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:28
Re: Oxymoron Alert 528 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 17:36
Re: Oxymoron Alert 412 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:47
Re: Oxymoron Alert 416 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 18:59
Surely you Jest 452 WonderWho 29-Jun-16 19:59
Re: Surely you Jest 493 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 20:29
Re: Surely you Jest 460 WonderWho 29-Jun-16 20:48
Re: Oxymoron Alert 467 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 17:32
N/T 435 Merrell 01-Jul-16 17:22
Re: Oxymoron Alert 519 Warwick 29-Jun-16 17:15
Re: Oxymoron Alert 534 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 17:24
Say what? 494 Warwick 30-Jun-16 14:27
Re: Say what? 416 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 15:16
Re: Say what? 480 Warwick 01-Jul-16 16:55
Re: Say what? 488 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 17:10
Re: Say what? 496 Warwick 01-Jul-16 17:28
Re: Say what? 541 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 15:26
Re: Say what? 476 Warwick 01-Jul-16 16:51
The Lackey Called John Snape 432 loveritas 29-Jun-16 11:14
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 473 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 11:38
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 547 loveritas 29-Jun-16 11:55
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 453 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 12:01
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 462 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:16
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 564 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:33
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 437 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:47
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 525 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:58
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 416 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:09
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 548 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:28
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 465 eyeofhorus33 29-Jun-16 16:54
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 498 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:01
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 468 eyeofhorus33 29-Jun-16 17:10
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 514 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:30
Re: Lackeys 473 Audrey 29-Jun-16 15:59
Re: Lackeys 451 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:08
Re: Lackeys 533 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:31
Re: Lackeys 415 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:54
Re: Lackeys 430 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:06
Re: Lackeys 484 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 17:37
Re: Lackeys 412 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:43
Re: Lackeys 503 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 18:46
Re: Lackeys 510 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:48
Re: Lackeys 500 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 19:19
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 529 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 12:40
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 490 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 13:35
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 410 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:38
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 424 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 14:42
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 486 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 15:16
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 515 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:50
'Officially' in the gutter. 509 DScribr 29-Jun-16 20:16
Scotts 'New" Book 535 DScribr 29-Jun-16 03:36
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 498 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:27
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 449 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 14:07
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 472 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:44
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 504 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 15:48
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 448 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:57
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 489 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 16:07
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 463 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:14
n/t 488 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:59
The Need For Proof. 475 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:56
Re: The Need For Proof. 504 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 20:00
Hypocrisy 536 DScribr 29-Jun-16 20:10
Re: Hypocrisy 456 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 20:19
Re: Hypocrisy 469 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 20:56
Re: Hypocrisy 437 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 21:01
Re: Hypocrisy 483 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Hypocrisy 503 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 21:36
Re: Hypocrisy 460 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 22:21
Re: Hypocrisy 471 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:55
Re: Hypocrisy 408 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:53
Re: Hypocrisy denied, but..... 522 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:50
Re: Hypocrisy 490 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:48
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 455 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:49
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 449 cladking 29-Jun-16 03:48
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 502 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 05:09
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 408 cladking 29-Jun-16 19:12


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