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Hello Loveritas.

loveritas Wrote:
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> No.

So why do we say it as fact then?

> Ossburn is of the opinion that Suphis II (Kafre)
> and Userkare were contemporaneous kings, one
> ruling from Memphis, and the other, from Abydos.

Does anyone but Osburn hold this opinion?

> Suphis and Noh-Suphis were, according to Osburn,
> co-regents, and brothers, each having a different
> cartouche. Vyse, knowingly, or not, discovered
> (giving him the benefit of the doubt) both
> cartouches in the Great Pyramid. Not the Khufu
> cartouche in one location and the KK in another.

According to Petrie I believe writing in 1883 (Pyramid Odyssey, Fix):
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Another name is found on the blocks in the Pyramid, side by side with those bearing the name of Khufu. This other name is the same as that of Khufu, with the prefix of two hieroglyphs, a jug and a ram and it is variously rendered Khnumu-Khufu, Nh-Shufu, and Shu-Shufu. The most destructive theory about this king is that he is identical with Khufu, and that the ram is merely a symbol of the god Shu, and put as the determinative in this place of the first syllable of the name. But against this hypothesis it must be observed (1) that the pronunciation was Khufu, and not Shufu, in the early times; (2) that the first hieroglyph, the jug, is thus unexplained; and (3) that there is no similar prefix of a determinative to a king's name, in any other instance out of the hundreds of names, and thousands of variants, known....

The only great royal inscription (of Khufu) is on the rocks of Sinai. There are two tablets: one with the name and titles of Khufu, the other with the king smiting an enemy, and the name Khnum-khufu The name is found in five places The two names being placed in succession in one inscription cannot be mere chance variants of the same. Either they must be two distinct and independent names of one king, or else two separate kings. If they were separate kings, Khnum-khuf must have been the most important.

> However, the only effigy of Khufu was found, not
> at Giza, but Abydos.

Uh, huh...

On the lower left is supposedly written his Horus name (serekh), but no carouche.

Here is a statue found in the 4th Dynasty Giza mastaba of Seneb and his wife:


Originally it was thought to belong to the 5th/6th Dynasty but according to Wikipedia/Seneb has since been definitively dated to the reign of Djedefre (Radjedef). The two children depicted in the statute are named Radjedef (Djedefre) on the left and Khufu on the right:


As we can see Khufu is clearly depicted as a female with the customary white skin and female genitalia. To look at the Khufu statue again:


A man or a woman? The statue of Seneb is very curious. To quote myself from HERE:
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Anyhoo, the lines in the circle are obviously not meant to represent the "kh" in "Khufu" and could not be one and the same as a sieve despite appearances. No other pharaoh required this not even KHafre. And also, the Khufu cartouche has many variations of lines and no lines all of which spell the same thing. This is highlighted on Merykhufu's tomb which depicts both empty circle and a 3 line circle. For me, I can only conclude that lines in the RA disk, regardless of how many, mean something different than no lines and a dot or nothing. Considering Khufu is the only pharaoh in the history of Egypt to have his RA disk not only depicted with lines, but depicted with something other than the customary no lines or dot there is obviously something unique about Khufu and the meaning of the lined RA disk.

To paraphrase the rest, the lines of the sieve (RA circle) have been said to represent the placenta which given Khufu is the only pharaoh to have these lines in their RA disk I have raised the possibility this may denote Khufu was in fact a woman of whom as had happened in earlier Dynasties were known to have been co-regents.

Just a thought. So maybe these cartouches refer to a Mr and Mrs Smith....

Regardless, the statuette attributed to Khufu is wearing the crown/headdress of the god Amun, akin to the Red Crown of Upper (southern Egypt) which though Atum dates to most likely the beginnings of Dynastic Egypt and was popular during the OK, this style of crown as far as I can tell was a later convention appearing in the MK/NK:


Regardless of who it represents, or their gender, all things considered I think it is very unlikely, as does Hawass apparently, this statue dates to OK and is more likely to be from later funerary cults possibly as late as the 26th Dynasty.

I would also note from the thread Mastabas of Giza-Reference and Commentary:
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There are dozens and dozens of Khufu cartouches to be found in many of the [Giza] mastabas which in context do not appear to be referring to Khufu the pharaoh. For someone with the time and interest it would be well worth sorting this out as it would seem to speak directly to what the cartouche really meant and who or what it was actually referring to.

I wasn't thinking about it at the time but I do not recall seeing too many "Khnum Khuf" if any though I honestly do not remember. It would be interesting to comb through these and see if there are.

> In maintaining consistency, if Osburn is correct,
> one could expect to find the cartouche of both
> Kafre and Userkare in G2 or its satellite temples.
> Is such the case?

You tell me.

> One could also ask oneself the question, why did
> the quarrymen daub one block with the Khufu
> cartouche, and another with the KK cartouche? It
> would seem likely that, because the destination
> was the same, both cartouches were understood as
> belonging to one entity and were interchangeable.

The naming scheme for pharaohs is complicated, but why would some quarrymen, or folk like Merer as I note, prefer one name over another which again in the case of Merer in the same set of documents?

> What I find interesting is the fact that the Khufu
> character doesn't have a Re inclusion in his name,
> considering the preference for Re to be included
> in his family's names and many generations hence.
> His preference was for Khnum which indicates quite
> a difference in his divination (God/King).

Abydos King's list:


Many do not have the RA inclusion.

> Doesn't explain the fact of both cartouches being
> in G1 though.

Nope.

If anyone knows of any evidence as to why these names are now considered to be one and the same and not co-regents as was accepted by many until at least the early 20th century please provide it.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 06-Jun-16 05:52 by Thanos5150.

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Re: Expert? Specialist? 426 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 15:07
Re: Expert? Specialist? 440 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 06:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 383 Corpuscles 30-Jun-16 23:14
Re: Expert? Specialist? 391 Audrey 30-Jun-16 23:37
Re: Expert? Specialist? 366 Martin Stower 30-Jun-16 23:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 416 Audrey 01-Jul-16 00:36
Re: Expert? Specialist? 437 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 00:50
Re: Expert? Specialist? 319 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:09
Re: Expert? Specialist? 430 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 375 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:57
Re: Expert? Specialist? 458 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 436 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 04:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 420 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 14:55
Please, Steven 444 drrayeye 01-Jul-16 00:44
Re: Please, Steven 419 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 01:19
Re: Please, Steven 480 Audrey 01-Jul-16 01:56
Re: Please, Steven 492 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 04:24
Re: Please, Steven 378 Martin Stower 01-Jul-16 15:01
Re: Expert? Specialist? 384 Origyptian 26-Jun-16 18:12
Re: Expert? Specialist? 433 Merrell 26-Jun-16 19:18
Re: Expert? Specialist? 399 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 00:03
Re: Expert? Specialist? 360 Merrell 27-Jun-16 07:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 439 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 13:19
Re: Expert? Specialist? 329 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 13:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 425 Merrell 27-Jun-16 14:56
Re: Expert? Specialist? 413 Jon Ellison 27-Jun-16 15:11
Re: Expert? Specialist? 363 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:28
Re: Expert? Specialist? 373 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:42
Re: Expert? Specialist? 506 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 17:37
Re: Expert? Specialist? 429 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 17:45
Re: Expert? Specialist? 493 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 21:13
Re: Expert? Specialist? 520 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 22:32
Re: Expert? Specialist? 424 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 00:21
Re: Expert? Specialist? 461 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:02
Re: Expert? Specialist? 449 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:40
Re: Expert? Specialist? 435 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 15:48
Re: Expert? Specialist? 338 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 15:55
Re: Expert? Specialist? 522 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 16:24
Re: Expert? Specialist? 343 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:30
Re: Expert? Specialist? 426 Martin Stower 27-Jun-16 21:27
Re: Expert? Specialist? 419 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 01:59
Re: Expert? Specialist? 402 eyeofhorus33 27-Jun-16 17:00
Re: Expert? Specialist? 452 Origyptian 27-Jun-16 18:51
Re: Gatekeeping 363 Thunderbird 27-Jun-16 16:38
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 465 Audrey 26-Jun-16 01:54
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 539 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:24
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 387 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:42
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 470 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:18
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 465 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 03:27
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 373 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:31
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 474 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:40
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 381 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:46
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 412 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:52
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 414 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 04:23
No Moderator Conspiracy 394 loveritas 27-Jun-16 05:55
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 402 Morten 25-Jun-16 23:19
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 376 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:37
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 450 Audrey 25-Jun-16 23:51
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 378 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 00:45
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 465 Audrey 26-Jun-16 01:49
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 516 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:12
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 373 DScribr 30-Jun-16 02:48
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 441 Merrell 25-Jun-16 10:47
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 399 Merrell 26-Jun-16 13:30
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 390 Audrey 24-Jun-16 16:43
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 523 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 20:08
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 439 Audrey 24-Jun-16 20:33
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 505 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 20:47
Re: Strange Graffiti. ....mighty strange indeed 528 Merrell 25-Jun-16 10:59
Re: Perring - Lady Arbuthnot chamber 487 Martin Stower 24-Jun-16 11:38
Post o' the week! 425 DScribr 22-Jun-16 21:07
Summertime In England 444 loveritas 21-Jun-16 05:52
Re: Who Was Khufu? 505 DUNE 21-Jun-16 15:14
Re: Who Was Khufu? 385 Jon Ellison 21-Jun-16 15:22
Re: Who Was Khufu? 506 DUNE 21-Jun-16 16:05
Re: Minute Examination 486 Thunderbird 21-Jun-16 18:12
Re: Minute Examination 448 Martin Stower 21-Jun-16 18:48
Gilligan Accepts Michaelangelo Challenge 605 loveritas 22-Jun-16 03:34
Re: Gilligan Accepts Michaelangelo Challenge 468 Martin Stower 22-Jun-16 20:20
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 499 DScribr 23-Jun-16 19:14
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 532 Martin Stower 23-Jun-16 21:37
Re: Gilligan and Ginger 448 DScribr 23-Jun-16 23:00
Court Rocked By Stalker Allegation! 476 loveritas 22-Jun-16 23:20
Re: Court Rocked By Stalker Allegation! 533 Martin Stower 22-Jun-16 23:57
Creighton's Legal Team In Hiding 528 loveritas 23-Jun-16 23:54
it all boils down to this 457 Warwick 25-Jun-16 19:21
How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 475 Corpuscles 25-Jun-16 23:33
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 481 Audrey 26-Jun-16 00:19
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 489 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 01:24
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 418 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:17
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 466 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:33
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 475 Audrey 26-Jun-16 02:48
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 392 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 02:52
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 424 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 02:57
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 439 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-16 02:59
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 355 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 03:40
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 393 Audrey 26-Jun-16 03:46
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 506 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 04:04
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 471 Audrey 26-Jun-16 04:47
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 482 Martin Stower 26-Jun-16 13:49
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 381 Warwick 26-Jun-16 17:32
Re: How about... all cut out the c RAP!? 444 Corpuscles 26-Jun-16 07:01
Re: Who Was Khufu? 488 atul.seth 28-Jun-16 12:48
Re: Who Was Khufu? 440 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 15:13
Re: Who Was Khufu? 506 Howard West 28-Jun-16 15:37
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 442 Brian Patterson 28-Jun-16 16:16
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 457 Origyptian 28-Jun-16 18:09
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 402 wonderwall 28-Jun-16 20:52
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 439 Brian Patterson 28-Jun-16 21:22
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 484 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 04:46
Lackeys 496 loveritas 29-Jun-16 07:19
Re: Lackeys 469 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 08:06
Re: Lackeys 397 Corpuscles 29-Jun-16 09:41
Re: Lackeys 442 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 09:45
Re: Lackeys 407 Audrey 29-Jun-16 15:52
Re: Lackeys 449 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:05
Oxymoron Alert 336 Warwick 29-Jun-16 16:36
Re: Oxymoron Alert 387 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:58
Re: Oxymoron Alert 380 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 17:06
Re: Oxymoron Alert 419 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:28
Re: Oxymoron Alert 454 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 17:36
Re: Oxymoron Alert 343 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:47
Re: Oxymoron Alert 351 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 18:59
Surely you Jest 380 WonderWho 29-Jun-16 19:59
Re: Surely you Jest 438 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 20:29
Re: Surely you Jest 399 WonderWho 29-Jun-16 20:48
Re: Oxymoron Alert 405 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 17:32
N/T 361 Merrell 01-Jul-16 17:22
Re: Oxymoron Alert 440 Warwick 29-Jun-16 17:15
Re: Oxymoron Alert 475 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 17:24
Say what? 416 Warwick 30-Jun-16 14:27
Re: Say what? 350 Origyptian 30-Jun-16 15:16
Re: Say what? 412 Warwick 01-Jul-16 16:55
Re: Say what? 421 Origyptian 01-Jul-16 17:10
Re: Say what? 429 Warwick 01-Jul-16 17:28
Re: Say what? 474 Jon Ellison 30-Jun-16 15:26
Re: Say what? 419 Warwick 01-Jul-16 16:51
The Lackey Called John Snape 370 loveritas 29-Jun-16 11:14
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 410 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 11:38
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 475 loveritas 29-Jun-16 11:55
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 395 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 12:01
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 406 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:16
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 429 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:33
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 378 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:47
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 450 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:58
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 353 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:09
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 483 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:28
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 389 eyeofhorus33 29-Jun-16 16:54
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 440 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:01
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 396 eyeofhorus33 29-Jun-16 17:10
Re: The Lackey Called John Snape 439 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:30
Re: Lackeys 400 Audrey 29-Jun-16 15:59
Re: Lackeys 377 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:08
Re: Lackeys 452 Audrey 29-Jun-16 16:31
Re: Lackeys 347 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:54
Re: Lackeys 365 Audrey 29-Jun-16 17:06
Re: Lackeys 419 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 17:37
Re: Lackeys 349 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:43
Re: Lackeys 426 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 18:46
Re: Lackeys 451 Audrey 29-Jun-16 18:48
Re: Lackeys 429 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 19:19
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 446 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 12:40
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 419 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 13:35
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 346 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 13:38
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 364 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 14:42
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 419 Jon Ellison 29-Jun-16 15:16
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 445 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:50
'Officially' in the gutter. 435 DScribr 29-Jun-16 20:16
Scotts 'New" Book 468 DScribr 29-Jun-16 03:36
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 428 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 13:27
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 388 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 14:07
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 402 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:44
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 431 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 15:48
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 375 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 15:57
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 407 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 16:07
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 396 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 16:14
n/t 419 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:59
The Need For Proof. 412 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:56
Re: The Need For Proof. 430 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 20:00
Hypocrisy 471 DScribr 29-Jun-16 20:10
Re: Hypocrisy 386 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 20:19
Re: Hypocrisy 414 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 20:56
Re: Hypocrisy 372 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 21:01
Re: Hypocrisy 425 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 21:14
Re: Hypocrisy 442 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 21:36
Re: Hypocrisy 394 Martin Stower 29-Jun-16 22:21
Re: Hypocrisy 406 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:55
Re: Hypocrisy 352 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:53
Re: Hypocrisy denied, but..... 449 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:50
Re: Hypocrisy 435 DScribr 29-Jun-16 22:48
Re: Scotts 'New" Book 398 DScribr 29-Jun-16 19:49
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 385 cladking 29-Jun-16 03:48
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 442 Origyptian 29-Jun-16 05:09
Re: This Is Scotts Book Page 351 cladking 29-Jun-16 19:12


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