Origyptian Wrote:
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> Martin Stower Wrote:
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> > He does this again and again (and no, I am not
> > going to waste my time searching for and citing
> > the individual posts). He says things and then
> > “forgets” he’s said them. I don’t buy it
> > for a moment.
> >
> > He’s come out with this “60 years” BS in
> > post after post. Those interested may find them
> > via the following potted search:
> >
> > [grahamhancock.com]
>
> Perhaps those interested can tell me whether
> Stower is accurate in accusing me of claiming in
> "post after post" that "no
> "Egyptologist"contradicted Reisner".
>
> Alternatively, allow me to save the readers some
> time. I just went through the 22 posts that
> resulted from the search in Stower's link, and in
> none of them do I state that no Egyptologist ever
> contradicted Reisner. I only stated the discipline
> of Egyptology hasn't challenged Reisner's
> narrative. Rather, mainstream Egyptology still
> embraces the majority of Reisner's narrative to
> this day even though the entire narrative is a
> complete fabrication based on what he found in
> G7000x. The fact that luminaries such as Edwards,
> Lehner, and Romer all report Reisner's
> speculations as accepted fact to this day confirms
> that Egyptology has not yet challenged Reisner's
> narrative despite Lehner's and Münch's direct
> rebuttals. Apparently, while some Egyptologists
> question whether Hetepheres was buried in Dashur,
> there still seems to be widespread mainstream
> agreement that Hetepheres was indeed the wife of
> Sneferu and the mother of Khufu, and that G7000x
> represent a reburial - Münch being the only
> exception I am aware of since he has proposed that
> G7000x was merely a funerary deposit of personal
> artifacts and not a tomb for Hetepheres.

You expect people to fall for this? You didn’t say it in so many words, so you didn’t say it?

As I say, those interested (and I doubt there are many) can follow the link and make up their own minds.

If you weren’t clear in all of them, you made yourself abundantly clear here:

http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,1050359,1053561#msg-1053561

Warwick: “Hetepheres demonstrates that Egyptology is not frozen in time as well.”

Femano: “Maybe not frozen, but certainly extremely sluggish. It demonstrates the inertia against acknowledging the errors. Reisner's story about Hetepheres went unchallenged for 60 years before Lehner spoke up about it. . . .”

Could we have verbatim quotes of Edwards, Lehner and Romer, reporting Reisner’s speculations as “accepted fact to this day”?

In A History of Ancient Egypt (2012), Romer wrote this: “In explanation of Hetep-heres’s absence, the normally taciturn Reisner proposed an Ali Baba-ry of tales. More recent and less elaborate hypotheses have proposed that she may originally have been buried with her grave goods in a full-sized burial chamber underneath a modest pyramid . . . .”

Where is the “accepted fact to this day”?

Nearest is what Lehner wrote in his paper of 1985: “There is no textual evidence, contemporary with the 4th Dynasty or from later times, for the plundering of this tomb and the transfer of its contents to Giza. Reisner’s reconstruction of events is based entirely upon the archaeological evidence gathered from G7000x. Nevertheless, his scenario was passed down in the literature, e.g. The Cambridge Ancient History (Smith 1971, 168), as historical fact.”

Those of us who understand the words used will understand what Lehner was saying. There is no historical (written) evidence for Reisner’s scenario, but nevertheless it was passed down in the literature (example specified) as historical fact—which is not at all the same as saying it was unchallenged. Even if Lehner thought so, the evidence says otherwise.

In The Legacy of Egypt (1942, ed. S. R. K. Glanville, not the same as the later volume of the same title, ed. J. R. Harris) we find this: “The ingenious theory has been suggested that the former tomb at Dahshûr was plundered, and its contents transferred to a specially built hiding-place at Gîzeh.”

Again, those who know how to read will know what to make of this.

Get over yourself, Femano. You’re a pretentious sub-amateur who can’t even read the inscriptions, as demonstrated by your curious puzzlement over why this Hetepheres is identified as wife of Seneferu and mother of Khufu.

Edited 2017-03-12 to fix a spelling.

M.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12-Mar-17 23:34 by Martin Stower.