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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Martin Stower Wrote:
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> > Femano has failed all along to understand just how
> > far “physical evidence” (so-called) depends on
> > testimony. It needs chain of custody and Görlitz
> > and Erdmann have no credibility on that. Taking
> > the sample in the first place was a criminal act,
> > Görlitz did not follow the correct sampling
> > protocols and their statements about what they did
> > are wildly contradictory: they sampled the
> > cartouche/they did not sample the cartouche; it
> > was not iron oxide (red ochre)/it was red ochre
> > (iron oxide). Credibility zero.
>
> Witness orthodoxy in its final throes.

A hobbyist on a message board is “orthodoxy”?

> When did Görlitz say he sampled the Khufu
> cartouche? How could he have sampled the Khufu
> cartouche when those same scratches have been
> there for years before he was ever up there?

http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,329195,329260#msg-329260

You will note that the Indiegogo link, valid at time of posting, is now stale. The relevant quote (reproduced for your convenience) is this:

“A first sample of the cartridge [kartusche] was taken during a first expedition with our camera crew and is now in the hands of a well known institute for lab analysis in Germany.”

Said, I think, by the maker of the film, Frank Höfer.

Being so utterly, cluelessly ignorant of the matter, perhaps you should shut up about it.

Observant readers will notice the slippage from what Görlitz said to what Görlitz did. If Görlitz couldn’t have done what he said he did, that’s his problem, not mine.

> It's hilarious that you focus on everything but
> the simple issue of whether SGS has any official
> statement to make on the matter. Until they do,
> the rest of your argument is irrelevant. As I
> said, I withhold judgement against Görlitz for
> the time being.

Withhold judgement? You have no judgement.

Those of us who were following at the time know that the SGS Institut Fresenius was mortified to find itself in the middle of an international incident and has already said all it is ever likely to say on the question. Try asking your pal Creighton how far he got with them.

M.

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Creighton Persists Part 2 4239 JonnyMcA 19-May-16 14:30
That chemical analysis . . . 745 Martin Stower 19-May-16 17:30
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 663 Origyptian 19-May-16 20:50
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 640 Jon Ellison 19-May-16 21:31
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 611 Martin Stower 19-May-16 22:01
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 601 Martin Stower 19-May-16 21:42
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 577 Origyptian 19-May-16 22:12
The unfounded accusations continue..... 697 DScribr 19-May-16 22:46
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 681 Martin Stower 20-May-16 00:14
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 598 Thanos5150 20-May-16 00:35
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 500 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 01:57
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 604 Origyptian 20-May-16 02:47
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 489 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 03:20
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 572 Martin Stower 20-May-16 19:10
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 604 DScribr 20-May-16 23:23
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 587 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 23:35
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 571 DScribr 20-May-16 23:40
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 543 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:07
Re: The unfounded accusations continue..... 448 DScribr 20-May-16 02:58
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 596 Martin Stower 19-May-16 22:55
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 599 DScribr 19-May-16 22:43
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 600 Martin Stower 19-May-16 23:30
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 641 Origyptian 20-May-16 02:48
The lack of analysis . . . 700 DScribr 20-May-16 03:05
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 633 Audrey 20-May-16 04:13
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 564 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 06:58
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 592 DScribr 20-May-16 23:42
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 722 Origyptian 20-May-16 15:46
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 547 Martin Stower 21-May-16 01:28
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 549 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:32
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 589 Martin Stower 21-May-16 02:07
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 572 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 06:43
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 588 Origyptian 21-May-16 14:58
So much for chemical analysis . . . 575 DScribr 21-May-16 19:54
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 576 Martin Stower 21-May-16 22:49
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 569 Martin Stower 21-May-16 23:00
Re: What's the end game with this? 673 Thunderbird 20-May-16 17:20
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 568 Martin Stower 20-May-16 19:04
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 556 Audrey 20-May-16 22:43
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 509 Martin Stower 20-May-16 22:54
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 551 Audrey 20-May-16 23:12
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 489 Martin Stower 20-May-16 23:52
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 570 Audrey 21-May-16 00:33
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 639 Martin Stower 21-May-16 00:45
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 486 DScribr 21-May-16 01:35
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 434 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:06
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 516 Martin Stower 21-May-16 01:33
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 588 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:36
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 782 Martin Stower 21-May-16 02:49
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 631 Martin Stower 20-May-16 18:28
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 640 Origyptian 20-May-16 20:00
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 548 Thanos5150 20-May-16 20:13
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 579 Origyptian 20-May-16 21:03
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 577 Martin Stower 20-May-16 23:44
Höfer and Görlitz meet Stein 516 Martin Stower 21-May-16 00:36
Re: Höfer and Görlitz meet Stein 492 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:23
Re: Höfer and Görlitz meet Stein 707 Martin Stower 21-May-16 01:55
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 562 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:34
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 580 Martin Stower 21-May-16 03:15
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 504 Origyptian 21-May-16 04:08
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 573 Martin Stower 21-May-16 23:33
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 672 Origyptian 22-May-16 00:09
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 530 Martin Stower 22-May-16 00:49
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 617 Origyptian 22-May-16 00:57
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 590 Origyptian 22-May-16 01:11
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 575 Jon Ellison 22-May-16 01:14
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 606 Martin Stower 22-May-16 01:51
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 559 Origyptian 22-May-16 04:21
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 607 Martin Stower 22-May-16 14:20
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 564 Origyptian 22-May-16 17:32
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 618 Martin Stower 22-May-16 18:33
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 575 Origyptian 22-May-16 20:34
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 499 Martin Stower 22-May-16 21:30
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 600 Origyptian 22-May-16 23:04
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 618 Martin Stower 23-May-16 00:03
Re: That chemical analysis is all but forgotten...... 556 DScribr 23-May-16 03:11
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 596 Richard Fusniak 21-May-16 08:47
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 568 Origyptian 21-May-16 13:26
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 539 Martin Stower 22-May-16 00:32
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 563 Origyptian 22-May-16 00:50
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 592 Martin Stower 22-May-16 01:39
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 488 Origyptian 22-May-16 04:45
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 506 Martin Stower 22-May-16 16:13
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 496 Martin Stower 21-May-16 22:44
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 701 Origyptian 21-May-16 23:58
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 550 Martin Stower 22-May-16 01:28
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 784 Martin Stower 20-May-16 22:44
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 545 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:41
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 621 Martin Stower 21-May-16 03:28
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 618 Origyptian 21-May-16 04:14
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 461 Martin Stower 21-May-16 23:11
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 607 Thanos5150 19-May-16 22:50
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 585 Martin Stower 19-May-16 23:18
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 490 DScribr 20-May-16 03:07
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 587 Origyptian 20-May-16 02:52
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 532 DScribr 20-May-16 03:12
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 599 Thanos5150 20-May-16 05:20
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 495 Origyptian 20-May-16 13:36
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 615 Thanos5150 20-May-16 17:57
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 602 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 18:56
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 591 Martin Stower 20-May-16 19:23
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 660 Thanos5150 20-May-16 19:27
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 526 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 19:29
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 558 Audrey 20-May-16 21:02
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 574 Origyptian 20-May-16 21:12
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 552 Jon Ellison 20-May-16 21:26
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 622 Thanos5150 20-May-16 22:08
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 625 Audrey 20-May-16 22:34
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 509 Thanos5150 20-May-16 22:36
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 618 Audrey 20-May-16 22:47
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 501 Thanos5150 20-May-16 23:00
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 519 Audrey 20-May-16 23:11
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 502 Thanos5150 21-May-16 00:01
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 515 Audrey 21-May-16 00:23
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 566 Thanos5150 21-May-16 03:14
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 558 Audrey 21-May-16 05:02
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 500 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 09:10
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 623 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 09:28
The chemical analysis is of little help without R-C Dating 690 DScribr 21-May-16 13:37
Re: The chemical analysis is of little help without R-C Dating 507 Origyptian 21-May-16 13:56
Re: The chemical analysis is of little help without R-C Dating 550 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 17:48
Willful ignorance continues....... 589 DScribr 21-May-16 19:49
Re: Willful ignorance continues....... 613 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 21:28
Re: Stealing IS a crime! Willful ignorance continues....... 504 DScribr 22-May-16 00:39
Re: The chemical analysis is of little help without R-C Dating 604 Richard Fusniak 21-May-16 18:17
Re: The chemical analysis is of little help without R-C Dating 481 DScribr 21-May-16 19:57
Re: The chemical analysis is of little help without R-C Dating 610 Richard Fusniak 21-May-16 20:24
Stealing IS A Crime!!! 589 DScribr 22-May-16 00:32
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 581 Origyptian 21-May-16 15:04
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 502 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 17:53
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 560 Origyptian 21-May-16 21:39
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 563 Jon Ellison 22-May-16 00:46
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 512 Martin Stower 21-May-16 00:09
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 596 Audrey 21-May-16 00:26
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 592 Martin Stower 21-May-16 00:42
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 559 Audrey 21-May-16 01:04
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 631 Martin Stower 21-May-16 01:41
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 580 Jon Ellison 21-May-16 11:00
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 547 DScribr 21-May-16 01:44
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 545 Origyptian 20-May-16 19:25
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 558 Thanos5150 20-May-16 19:31
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 508 Origyptian 20-May-16 20:35
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 586 Thanos5150 20-May-16 22:03
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 507 Origyptian 20-May-16 22:38
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 587 Thanos5150 20-May-16 22:52
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 524 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:31
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 597 Martin Stower 21-May-16 01:05
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 521 Origyptian 21-May-16 01:27
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 542 Martin Stower 21-May-16 03:31
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 529 Audrey 21-May-16 01:42
Re: That chemical analysis . . . 649 Martin Stower 21-May-16 03:34
Pending statement from Dr. Gorlitz 874 Richard Fusniak 20-May-16 12:04
Re: Pending statement from Dr. Gorlitz 622 Martin Stower 20-May-16 19:25
Martin Persists 659 drrayeye 23-May-16 01:30
Re: Martin Persists 638 Martin Stower 23-May-16 12:01
Re: Martin Persists 497 R Avry Wilson 24-May-16 19:58
Mainstream Persists 653 DScribr 25-May-16 00:56
Re: Martin Persists 718 Merrell 28-May-16 09:00
Re: Martin Persists 548 Martin Stower 28-May-16 11:11
as long as we are counting 647 Warwick 25-May-16 16:42
Re: as long as we are counting 607 DScribr 26-May-16 01:53
Re: as long as we are counting 645 cladking 26-May-16 16:57
Re: as long as we are counting 570 Martin Stower 26-May-16 17:31
Re: as long as we are counting 574 Origyptian 26-May-16 17:40
Re: as long as we are counting 512 cladking 27-May-16 00:21
Re: as long as we are counting 589 Warwick 27-May-16 01:27
Re: as long as we are counting 396 Origyptian 27-May-16 02:53
And work hard at obfuscation. 470 DScribr 27-May-16 00:57
Re: And work hard at obfuscation. 532 cladking 27-May-16 02:55
Re: as long as we are counting 508 Warwick 27-May-16 01:29
Re: as long as we are counting 604 cladking 27-May-16 02:59
Re: as long as we are counting 581 Warwick 27-May-16 03:35
Re: as long as we are counting 561 Audrey 27-May-16 04:32
Re: as long as we are counting 547 Warwick 27-May-16 05:34
Re: as long as we are counting 617 cladking 27-May-16 13:35
Re: as long as we are counting 571 Warwick 27-May-16 14:56
The original page on Indiegogo etc. 659 Martin Stower 25-May-16 22:10
Another performance . . . 561 Martin Stower 26-May-16 13:47
Re: Another performance . . . 500 Warwick 26-May-16 13:57
Re: Another performance . . . 444 Origyptian 26-May-16 14:53
Re: Another performance . . . 541 Martin Stower 26-May-16 16:09
Re: Another performance . . . 545 cladking 26-May-16 16:18
Re: Another performance . . . 456 Martin Stower 26-May-16 16:31
Re: Another performance . . . 817 cladking 26-May-16 17:54
Re: Another performance . . . 612 Martin Stower 26-May-16 18:29
Re: Another performance . . . 433 cladking 26-May-16 23:52
Re: Another performance . . . 620 eyeofhorus33 26-May-16 19:00
Re: Another performance . . . 470 cladking 27-May-16 00:05
Re: Another performance . . . 513 Audrey 27-May-16 00:23
Re: Another performance . . . 494 Warwick 27-May-16 01:42
Re: Another performance . . . 581 cladking 27-May-16 02:07
Re: Another performance . . . 523 Warwick 27-May-16 02:15
Re: Another performance . . . 557 cladking 27-May-16 02:48
Re: Another performance . . . 531 Warwick 27-May-16 03:48
Re: Another performance . . . 594 cladking 27-May-16 03:53
Re: Another performance . . . 617 Warwick 27-May-16 05:41
Re: Another performance . . . 524 Audrey 27-May-16 04:51
Re: Another performance . . . 576 Warwick 27-May-16 05:18
NOT Primitive, Low-Tech 511 DScribr 28-May-16 14:09
Re: NOT Primitive, Low-Tech 562 cladking 28-May-16 14:31
Re: Another performance . . . 593 Thanos5150 26-May-16 16:38
Re: Another performance . . . 487 cladking 26-May-16 16:44
Re: Another performance . . . 574 Origyptian 26-May-16 17:33
Re: Another performance . . . 602 cladking 26-May-16 17:40
Re: Another performance . . . 578 Martin Stower 26-May-16 17:49
Re: Another performance . . . 603 cladking 27-May-16 00:15
Re: Another performance . . . 583 Martin Stower 27-May-16 19:17
Re: Another performance . . . 602 Warwick 27-May-16 20:00
Re: Another performance . . . 524 cladking 27-May-16 20:21
Re: Another performance . . . 639 Martin Stower 27-May-16 23:06
Re: Oops....we missed the Basalt flooring and machine disc cuts 441 Thunderbird 27-May-16 23:28
Re: Oops....we missed the Basalt flooring and machine disc cuts 635 Martin Stower 27-May-16 23:41
Re: Another performance . . . 581 cladking 28-May-16 00:33
Re: Another performance . . . 593 Martin Stower 28-May-16 00:59
Re: Another performance . . . 559 cladking 28-May-16 02:36
Re: Another performance . . . 550 Martin Stower 28-May-16 23:55
Re: Another performance . . . 469 cladking 29-May-16 01:23
Re: Another performance . . . 517 Martin Stower 29-May-16 19:35
Re: Another performance . . . 682 cladking 29-May-16 20:43
Re: Another performance . . . 576 R Avry Wilson 28-May-16 02:39
Re: Another performance . . . 601 cladking 28-May-16 03:41
Re: Another performance . . . 541 Thanos5150 28-May-16 06:20
Re: Another performance . . . 607 cladking 28-May-16 13:40
Re: Another performance . . . 579 Origyptian 28-May-16 15:04
Re: Another performance . . . 562 Jon Ellison 28-May-16 16:38
Re: Another performance . . . 431 cladking 28-May-16 17:52
Re: Another performance . . . 530 Jon Ellison 28-May-16 17:58
Re: Another performance . . . 458 Origyptian 29-May-16 02:51
Re: Another performance . . . 477 cladking 29-May-16 03:08
Re: Another performance . . . 541 Origyptian 29-May-16 04:03
Re: Another performance . . . 553 Thanos5150 29-May-16 05:03
Re: Another performance . . . 582 Origyptian 29-May-16 13:18
Re: Another performance . . . 599 Thanos5150 29-May-16 15:03
Focus on the axiom 535 Origyptian 29-May-16 15:27
Re: Focus on everything BUT the facts 623 DScribr 29-May-16 15:41
Re: Focus on everything BUT the facts 501 cladking 29-May-16 17:29
Re: Focus on the axiom 480 Thanos5150 30-May-16 01:49
Re: Focus on the axiom 550 Origyptian 30-May-16 05:32
Re: Focus on the axiom 540 Thanos5150 31-May-16 02:35
Re: Focus on the axiom 567 Origyptian 31-May-16 06:41
Re: Focus on the axiom 576 Thanos5150 01-Jun-16 00:28
Re: Focus on reality. 531 DScribr 01-Jun-16 00:51
Re: Focus on the axiom 523 Origyptian 01-Jun-16 06:20
Re: Focus on the axiom 568 Thanos5150 02-Jun-16 03:08
Re: Focus on the axiom 538 cladking 02-Jun-16 04:00
Re: Focus on the axiom 479 Origyptian 02-Jun-16 04:25
Re: Focus on the axiom 490 Thanos5150 02-Jun-16 16:34
Re: Focus on the axiom 502 cladking 02-Jun-16 18:20
Re: Focus on the axiom 556 Origyptian 03-Jun-16 18:04
Re: Focus on the axiom 551 R Avry Wilson 03-Jun-16 18:43
Re: Focus on the axiom 540 Origyptian 03-Jun-16 21:24
Re: Focus on the axiom 532 Corpuscles 03-Jun-16 23:59
Re: Focus on the axiom 394 Origyptian 04-Jun-16 06:29
Re: Focus on the axiom 457 R Avry Wilson 04-Jun-16 00:12
Re: Focus on the axiom 452 Origyptian 04-Jun-16 07:02
Re: Focus on the axiom 571 Jon Ellison 04-Jun-16 10:18
Re: Focus on the axiom 511 R Avry Wilson 05-Jun-16 04:15
Re: Focus on the axiom 532 Martin Stower 03-Jun-16 22:28
Re: Focus on the axiom 521 cladking 03-Jun-16 22:51
Re: Focus on the axiom 651 Thanos5150 04-Jun-16 01:08
Re: Focus on the axiom 537 Origyptian 05-Jun-16 01:25
Re: Focus on the axiom 572 Thanos5150 05-Jun-16 04:15
Re: Focus on the axiom 533 Origyptian 05-Jun-16 17:29
Re: Focus on the axiom 568 Martin Stower 05-Jun-16 19:35
Re: Focus on the axiom 577 Origyptian 05-Jun-16 22:48
Re: Focus on the axiom 500 Martin Stower 05-Jun-16 23:47
Re: Focus on the axiom 541 Origyptian 06-Jun-16 00:54
Re: Focus on the axiom 504 Origyptian 06-Jun-16 01:01
Re: Focus on the axiom 543 Thanos5150 06-Jun-16 01:05
Re: Focus on the axiom 540 Origyptian 06-Jun-16 02:40
Re: Focus on the axiom 556 R Avry Wilson 06-Jun-16 03:39
Re: Focus on the axiom 466 Audrey 06-Jun-16 04:59
Re: Focus on the axiom 454 Jon Ellison 06-Jun-16 07:59
Re: Focus on the axiom 480 Origyptian 06-Jun-16 14:00
Re: Focus on the axiom 530 cladking 06-Jun-16 16:13
Re: Focus on the axiom 489 Corpuscles 07-Jun-16 00:20
Re: Focus on the axiom 535 Origyptian 07-Jun-16 02:55
Re: Focus on the axiom 474 Thanos5150 06-Jun-16 15:33
Re: Focus on the axiom 440 Warwick 06-Jun-16 16:17
Re: Focus on the axiom 550 Audrey 06-Jun-16 16:39
Re: Focus on the axiom 547 Warwick 06-Jun-16 16:58
Re: Focus on the axiom 453 Audrey 06-Jun-16 17:46
Re: Focus on the axiom 486 Warwick 06-Jun-16 18:13
Re: Focus on the axiom 426 Audrey 06-Jun-16 23:44
Read what I wrote 439 Warwick 07-Jun-16 17:15
Re: Read what I wrote 470 Audrey 08-Jun-16 00:22
Re: Read what I wrote 468 Martin Stower 08-Jun-16 01:40
Re: Read what I wrote 623 Audrey 08-Jun-16 01:52
Re: Read what I wrote 496 Martin Stower 08-Jun-16 13:47
Vyse's veracity.... 480 Warwick 09-Jun-16 16:29
Re: Vyse's veracity.... 405 Audrey 09-Jun-16 16:51
Re: Vyse's veracity.... 515 Warwick 09-Jun-16 17:19
Re: Vyse's veracity.... 548 Audrey 09-Jun-16 17:45
Wilkinson's opinions 469 Warwick 09-Jun-16 18:47
Re: Wilkinson's opinions 485 Origyptian 09-Jun-16 20:57
Ori's opinions 639 DScribr 10-Jun-16 01:45
Re: The incredible Teflon Red Ochre 462 Thunderbird 10-Jun-16 04:07
Re: The incredible Teflon Red Ochre 583 Martin Stower 10-Jun-16 14:49
Re: The incredible Red Ochre lasted 4500 yrs. 502 DScribr 11-Jun-16 00:40
Re: Wilkinson's opinions 436 Martin Stower 10-Jun-16 02:28
Re: Wilkinson's opinions 422 Audrey 10-Jun-16 03:05
Re: Wilkinson's opinions 558 Martin Stower 10-Jun-16 14:09
Bibliography 495 Warwick 10-Jun-16 18:07
Re: Bibliography 509 Origyptian 10-Jun-16 18:35
Re: Bibliography 488 Warwick 10-Jun-16 20:01
Re: Bibliography 541 Origyptian 10-Jun-16 21:54
Re: Bibliography 561 Corpuscles 10-Jun-16 23:45
Re: Bibliography 370 Origyptian 11-Jun-16 17:01
Re: Bibliography 509 Corpuscles 11-Jun-16 22:36
Re: Bibliography 466 Audrey 11-Jun-16 23:08
Re: Bibliography 494 Corpuscles 11-Jun-16 23:26
Re: Bibliography 399 Audrey 12-Jun-16 02:30
Re: Bibliography 448 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 03:19
Re: Bibliography 394 Audrey 12-Jun-16 03:32
Re: Bibliography 435 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 03:40
Re: Bibliography 446 Audrey 12-Jun-16 03:50
Re: Bibliography 401 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 04:30
Re: Bibliography 394 Audrey 12-Jun-16 04:47
Re: Bibliography 373 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 05:02
Re: Bibliography 519 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 10:49
Re: Bibliography 470 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 15:56
Re: Bibliography 395 R Avry Wilson 12-Jun-16 17:41
But Avry.. 446 Warwick 12-Jun-16 17:58
Re: But Avry.. 555 R Avry Wilson 12-Jun-16 18:14
Re: But Avry.. 511 Audrey 12-Jun-16 18:37
Re: But Avry.. 490 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 20:15
Re: But Avry.. 493 Audrey 12-Jun-16 18:44
Re: But Avry.. 463 Warwick 12-Jun-16 18:59
Re: But Avry.. 457 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 20:11
This whole discussion is a boondoggle 523 DScribr 13-Jun-16 01:04
Re: This whole discussion is a boondoggle 501 Warwick 13-Jun-16 16:24
Re: Bibliography 374 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 10:28
Re: Bibliography 465 Origyptian 11-Jun-16 23:35
Re: Bibliography 488 Corpuscles 11-Jun-16 23:58
Re: Bibliography 468 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 00:48
Re: Bibliography 504 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 01:13
Re: Bibliography 542 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 01:33
Re: Bibliography 557 Martin Stower 11-Jun-16 02:05
Re: Bibliography 521 Origyptian 11-Jun-16 18:09
Re: Bibliography 513 Martin Stower 11-Jun-16 19:22
Re: Bibliography 458 Origyptian 11-Jun-16 19:56
Re: Bibliography 378 Martin Stower 11-Jun-16 20:47
Re: Bibliography 504 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 00:03
Re: Bibliography 486 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 00:22
Re: Bibliography 385 Audrey 12-Jun-16 01:58
Re: Bibliography 521 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 02:24
Re: Bibliography 437 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 12:23
Re: Bibliography 468 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 14:50
Re: Bibliography 481 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 16:46
Re: Bibliography 394 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 00:10
Re: Bibliography 488 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 00:18
Re: Bibliography 481 Corpuscles 12-Jun-16 00:35
Re: Bibliography 543 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 00:39
Re: Bibliography 436 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 01:23
Re: Bibliography 441 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 02:18
Re: Bibliography 393 Martin Stower 12-Jun-16 13:55
Re: Bibliography 459 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 15:45
Re: Bibliography 486 R Avry Wilson 12-Jun-16 17:32
Re: Bibliography 432 Warwick 12-Jun-16 17:41
Re: Bibliography 487 R Avry Wilson 12-Jun-16 18:08
Re: Bibliography 474 Audrey 12-Jun-16 18:48
Re: Bibliography 471 Audrey 12-Jun-16 18:35
Re: Bibliography 429 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 19:09
Gonna ignore the noise and try again 472 Warwick 12-Jun-16 19:53
Re: Gonna ignore the noise and try again 480 Thunderbird 12-Jun-16 20:18
Re: Gonna ignore the noise and try again 440 Audrey 12-Jun-16 21:04
Re: Gonna ignore the noise and try again 495 Origyptian 12-Jun-16 20:59