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R Avry Wilson Wrote:
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> Yes, that's my thinking. It's not locked in by any
> means, but it is a strong candidate. I mean, sure
> there are possible events closer in time to the
> written accounts, however, I feel the archaic
> source is an excellent indicator for how the story
> become 'allegorical'. I think closer time frames
> could have led to more specific descriptions, for
> example, an actual, known geographical location
> for the flood(s).

If the event was c. 6,000BC it would still be at least another few millennia after the fact until the tale could have been written in prose form if at all. 2,000-3,000yrs of oral tradition is still a hell of a long time which without the uninterrupted cultural and civic stability seen with a culture like the Ubaid beginning directly after this time I have a hard time envisioning a stable enough environment such oral tradition could exist uninterrupted for so long.

C. 6,000BC:

The 8.2 kiloyear meltwater pulse event was likely caused from the collapse of the North American Laurentide ice sheet caused by the glacial Lake Agassiz suddenly draining into the Atlantic Ocean. This event has also been suggested by scientists to have been the cause of rising sea levels of the Indian Ocean at this time which permanently flooded a large area of land that is today the Persian Gulf including wiping out large stretches of Arabian Peninsula coastline. Massive Canadian melt may have triggered flood of biblical proportions
Lost ancient civilisation's ruins lie beneath Persian Gulf
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According to Jeffrey Rose, a Birmingham uni archaeologist, recent excavations and discoveries indicate that a large number of substantial and relatively sophisticated settlements sprang up around the shores of the Persian Gulf quite suddenly perhaps 7,500 years ago.

“Where before there had been but a handful of scattered hunting camps, suddenly, over 60 new archaeological sites appear virtually overnight,” says Rose. “These settlements boast well-built, permanent stone houses, long-distance trade networks, elaborately decorated pottery, domesticated animals, and even evidence for one of the oldest boats in the world.”
Source paper: New Light on Human Prehistory in the Arabo-Persian Gulf Oasis

Massive tsunami caused by large section of Mt Etna collapsing into Mediterranean:
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Numerical simulations support the occurrence of a catastrophic tsunami impacting all of the eastern Mediterranean in early Holocene. The tsunami was triggered by a debris avalanche from Mt. Etna (Sicily, Italy) which entered the Ionian Sea in the order of minutes. Simulations show that the resulting tsunami waves were able to destabilize soft marine sediments across the Ionian Sea floor. This generated the well-known, sporadically located, “homogenite” deposits of the Ionian Sea, and the widespread megaturbidite deposits of the Ionian and Sirte Abyssal Plains. It is possible that, ∼8 ka B.P., the Neolithic village of Atlit-Yam (Israel) was abandoned because of impact by the same Etna tsunami. Two other Pleistocenic megaturbidite deposits of the Ionian Sea can be explained by previous sector collapses from the Etna area.
Lost Tsunami

This also would have hit the Tunisian Peninsula as well as Malta and Sicily which the latter prior to c. 6,000BC were all part of the same landmass which I have suggested the megalithic ruins of Malta were built before this time.


Recently:
A submerged monolith in the Sicilian Channel (central Mediterranean Sea): Evidence for Mesolithic human activity
Underwater 'Stonehenge' Monolith Found Off Coast of Sicily

Massive underwater tsunami caused by the Storegga Landslide off the west coast of Norway caused final submergence of Doggerland.
The catastrophic final flooding of Doggerland by the Storegga Slide tsunami
Doggerland:


Massive Flood Event in Nile Delta. According to Egyptologist John Romer:
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The ancient Nile was different from the modern river too, its flow much stronger than it would become in later phases of its history. In consequence, the beginning of the delta, where the fast, wide river broke into half a dozen different streams and spread out like a fan, was further south than it is at present, at a point where the valley cliffs nip close together near the pyramids of modern day Saqqara....

In distant prehistoric times, both the Nile's flow and intrusions into the [Mediterranean] sea into its delta had been so violent as to delete all record of earlier human activity [in the greater Delta/coastal regions]. In the seventh millenium BC [c. 6,000BC], for example, the Nile had flowed so fiercely through its delta that it had channeled into a single outflow into the Mediterranean, the so-called "Great River", which had run from due north from the ending of the valley's limestone cliffs.

Flooding of the Back Sea caused by Mediterranean flowing through Bosphorus strait:
An abrupt drowning of the Black Sea shelf
Bob Ballard, explorer who found the Titanic, now says he may have found evidence of Noah’s flood

Why not c. 6,000BC? Any of these events, if not all, could fit the bill of the the oldest written flood myth found, the Eridu Genesis, which : "...does not speak of a flood covering the earth, but rather a flood that that “swept over the whole country”.

And it is after this time history as we know it begins.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 30-Apr-16 22:22 by Thanos5150.

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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 1021 Audrey 26-Apr-16 04:38
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 924 R Avry Wilson 26-Apr-16 07:00
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 926 Thanos5150 26-Apr-16 17:45
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 786 R Avry Wilson 27-Apr-16 01:00
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 1074 Thanos5150 27-Apr-16 17:15
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 822 R Avry Wilson 30-Apr-16 03:17
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 1153 Thanos5150 30-Apr-16 21:47
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 744 Origyptian 30-Apr-16 23:19
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 780 Aine 01-May-16 22:04
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 738 Thanos5150 01-May-16 22:54
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 2219 Thanos5150 28-Apr-16 23:03
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 853 R Avry Wilson 30-Apr-16 03:36
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 771 Thanos5150 30-Apr-16 22:18
The Unanswered Mystery of 7,000-year-old Ubaid Lizard figurines 515 dmatherly 02-Jan-17 23:46
Re: The Unanswered Mystery of 7,000-year-old Ubaid Lizard figurines 552 Thanos5150 03-Jan-17 05:26
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 1101 Origyptian 26-Apr-16 15:21
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 827 Thunderbird 27-Apr-16 20:42
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 853 Thanos5150 26-Apr-16 16:08
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 695 OCaptain 01-May-16 20:59
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 790 Corpuscles 01-May-16 22:25
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 800 Thanos5150 01-May-16 22:39
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 700 Eddie Larry 01-May-16 23:36
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 881 Thanos5150 02-May-16 03:44
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 705 Eddie Larry 03-May-16 21:53
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 793 Eddie Larry 03-May-16 22:13
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 731 Corpuscles 04-May-16 23:57
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 704 Origyptian 05-May-16 02:54
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 720 Harte 02-May-16 21:41
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 727 Harte 03-May-16 22:00
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 788 Eddie Larry 04-May-16 01:49
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 522 Eddie Larry 05-May-16 22:31
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 702 Harte 05-May-16 22:50
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 745 Eddie Larry 06-May-16 00:57
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 763 Harte 06-May-16 10:08
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 704 Origyptian 06-May-16 12:36
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 661 Eddie Larry 06-May-16 15:26
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 675 Aine 06-May-16 23:28
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 693 Audrey 07-May-16 17:55
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Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 759 eyeofhorus33 08-May-16 05:34
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 661 Audrey 08-May-16 17:53
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Re: An Allegory 637 Thunderbird 13-May-16 01:45
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 597 Thanos5150 02-Jan-17 19:16
Re: Mesopotamian Origin of the Biblical Flood Myth 484 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-17 19:39
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