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Do you even know what you're arguing about? What is it with you? You, too, are agreeing that the "Phoenicians and Greeks built at Baalbek before the Romans", so why are you so adamant to give the Romans credit for those huge megaliths?

The Romans have not taken credit for any of it. Putting a picture of it on a coin is not an indication of provenance! It simply means it was there at least that long ago. We know of no reason whatsoever that the Romans would have chosen such a remote location to build such a massive construction project. As far as you know, a more ancient civilization might have built the entire thing, and when the Romans stumbled upon it, they got many ideas of how to extend such an architectural style throughout their Empire, just as they did with the other architectural styles they adopted from the Greeks, Estruscans, etc. There is nothing at Baalbek that can be attributed to a Roman invention. It all could have existed before the Romans got there.

But my contention is NOT about the Classical construciton, it's the Cyclopean foundation and those blocks in the other field 0.7 km to the south. There is nothing in that stonework that says "Romans" and much that contradicts the notion that the Romans had anything to do with it.

Meanwhile, the Germans essentially reconstructed the entire Classical structure other than a pre-existing short colonnade here and there. Otherwise, as Audrey has shown us, that site was a complete mess with toppled/fragmented pediments, buildings full of rubble and what appeared to be thick sediment. We have no idea what the original construction looked like before the Roman Empire or even before the Germans reconstruction commenced. As it stands today, it's a Frankensteinian quilt of different cultures before and after the Romans. We have no reason to believe the Romans had anything to do with those megalithic blocks and many reasons to believe they did NOT.

As was the case in Mons Claudianus, you see a small indication that looks like Romans were there and you seem to then attribute the entire site to them. You don't allow the possibility that those columns were lying there for the taking in those Eypgtian quarries and that the Romans simply improved on the Greek's invention of capitals and bases. So we see Corinthian capitals at Baabek, but Romans didn't invent that. And nothing prevented the Romans from 'editing' the capitals and other blocks that were already there the same way the Romans adapted hieroglpyhics strings of text for decorative purposes without knowing what any of it meant, or ilberally used spolia from prior construction projects.

It's a mistake to give credit to the Romans for discovering much more than how to mass produce stonework technology that was invented before them. Just as Ford didn't invent the automobile but rather invented the assembly line. How much of that architecture was presumed by the Germans in their reconstruction? How much did the Romans really do at Baalbak?

And how on earth are you going to reconcile the remote location and size of that sanctuary along with why they chose to build on a site that's almost 1km away from the megaliths they planned to use for that construction project?

Your right, this is a dumb debate.

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What did the Romans invent? 1970 Origyptian 05-Dec-15 21:15
Re: What did the Romans invent? 575 Tom Hebert 06-Dec-15 19:51
Re: What did the Romans invent? 591 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 02:31
Re: What did the Romans invent? 511 Tom Hebert 07-Dec-15 18:38
Re: What did the Romans invent? 441 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 19:16
Re: What did the Romans invent? 506 Tom Hebert 09-Dec-15 00:12
Re: What did the Romans invent? 584 Origyptian 09-Dec-15 00:50
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Re: Roman pipes 485 molder 10-Dec-15 11:37
Re: What did the Romans do for us 637 michael seabrook 06-Dec-15 22:50
Re: What did the Romans do for us 559 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 03:09
Re: What did the Romans do for us 1009 Thanos5150 07-Dec-15 07:34
Re: What did the Romans do for us 790 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 13:14
Re: What did the Romans do for us 627 Audrey 07-Dec-15 17:14
Re: What did the Romans do for us 691 Thanos5150 07-Dec-15 21:30
Re: What did the Romans do for us 661 Martin Stower 09-Dec-15 00:41
Re: What did the Romans do for us 461 Thanos5150 10-Dec-15 06:45
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Re: What did the Romans invent? 463 Spiros 07-Dec-15 15:02
Re: What did the Romans invent? 486 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 15:23
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Re: What did the Romans invent? 617 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 19:36
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Re: What did the Romans invent? 622 Origyptian 08-Dec-15 15:16
Re: What did the Romans invent? 620 Martin Stower 09-Dec-15 00:31
Re: What did the Romans invent? 534 Origyptian 09-Dec-15 00:55
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Re: What did the Romans invent? 560 Audrey 10-Dec-15 02:21
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