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According to the new OCT (Origyptian's Crackpot Theory), the cause of the “devastation” at the “quarry” was a so called “mud wave” of mega proportions – the Mega Mud Wave (MMW). However, the MMW didn’t begin life as a mud wave, it was originally a mud slide.

“I'm sorry for not being clear about the origin of the mud-rock layer we see at the excavation site. To be more precise, I'll refer to it as a mud-rock "wave" and not a slide (e,g, removing the implication that gravity was necessarily the primary force).”

After Archae Solenhofen correctly pointed out that the topography of the Baalbek quarry makes this scenario an impossibility, the theory morphed from a mud slide into the MMW.

“To be clear, it may very well have been a "slide" depending on the original elevations. But for now, "wave" is the more suitable generic pending more evidence."

Origyptian isn’t being precise or clear, he’s backflipping - an art he has perfected on this board.

The impossibility of two 1000+ ton megaliths hurtling down the hill, over the quarry walls and landing neatly together can be clearly shown in the photograph below.





Next comes a very questionable statement.

“The place was demolished by a mud-rock flow that buried everything except the tip of PW. We still don't know how far down the bedrock is despite the many meters deep that have been excavated so far.

But based on the orientation/position of the three blocks that were toppled in parallel (including PW), it appears that the mud-rock wave came from the northwest. And like most catastrophic waves, the wave eventually receded somewhat, leaving behind what we see there today.”



Below is an aerial view of the direction of the MMW which defied gravity, as it originated somewhere down the valley, travelled uphill and “devastated” the “infrastructure” in the quarry.

But, he then backflips again with this :

“Those blocks had previously been erected in situ as components within the local infrastructure up there on the hill but were later toppled by a catastrophic mud-rock slide long before the Roman Empire became an entity.”

Work that one out!







“…that buried everything except the tip of PW.”

Why does Origyptian continue with this dubious claim about the Stone Of The Pregnant Woman being buried ”except for the tip,” when it’s patently obvious that it is not the case? The photographs below clearly show that the majority of SOTPW is, and has been, lying in a state of almost total exposure.








In the photograph below it can be easily seen that the SOTPW has only been partly buried and this occurred in two stages.





The following statement in reply to Archae Solenhofen is extremely questionable and is couched in such a way that the burial of the site is now deemed to be fact.

“The fact that we do not yet know what caused that flow doesn't make the physical evidence go away. Now, I'm still waiting to see if you have an alternate perspective of what caused that mud-rock layer that buried that site. Meanwhile, you still haven't chimed in with how you think that thick mud-rock layer came to inundate and bury that entire site.”

As the photograph below clearly shows, the site was never buried under tens of metres of mud conglomerate. The SOTPW is in much the same condition as it is today. Even the outline of the “newly discovered megalith” can be seen under a thin layer of loose material.





Origyptian continues with yet more guff :

“Clearly, I was talking about the 2m flow toppling the blocks and when the block toppled, the "keel" was formed by the same material that comprised the flow.”

Where is the evidence of the 2m flow? It hasn’t covered over the “newly discovered megalith.”

Is the “keel” or base really ‘formed by the same material that comprised the flow?”

The photographs below prove otherwise. The “keel” or base is obviously not comprised of the same material which “buried” the site. The trench between the “substratum” of the SOTPW is filled with loose rubble. The “keel” or base is comprised of the same material as the “substratum”. The “substratum” is limestone.











The trench and surrounding area were never buried by the Mega Mud Wave as the photographs below show. The loose material has been accumulating in the quarry from deposits further up the hill which, in places, is 100 metres higher, as well as added tailings from quarry excavations.

For centuries stone walls have been erected to prevent land slippage. The material around the megaliths is not concreted conglomerate mud-rock, but just loose earth and stones – so loose that even Santa Claus can remove it.







So, what really happened at Baalbek?

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Baalbek : What Really Happened? 3503 loveritas 01-Dec-15 20:00
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 868 Jon Ellison 01-Dec-15 20:34
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The Presumptuousness of Eli Stills 686 loveritas 12-Dec-15 11:01
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Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 792 randompHactor 01-Dec-15 23:48
crackpot 839 Audrey 02-Dec-15 01:10
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 842 Origyptian 02-Dec-15 05:23
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 798 Martin Stower 02-Dec-15 12:30
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 694 Jon Ellison 02-Dec-15 14:44
The Mega Mud Wave 842 loveritas 02-Dec-15 11:48
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 727 Martin Stower 02-Dec-15 12:46
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 699 Origyptian 02-Dec-15 14:29
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 684 Archae Solenhofen 02-Dec-15 20:16
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 669 Jon Ellison 02-Dec-15 23:45
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 642 Martin Stower 03-Dec-15 13:59
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 651 Origyptian 03-Dec-15 14:41
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 642 Jon Ellison 03-Dec-15 17:10
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 702 Martin Stower 03-Dec-15 23:08
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 707 Audrey 03-Dec-15 01:30
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 619 Corpuscles 03-Dec-15 02:41
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 639 Audrey 03-Dec-15 03:57
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 707 Origyptian 02-Dec-15 14:19
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 784 Thanos5150 02-Dec-15 18:51
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 569 Jon Ellison 02-Dec-15 19:15
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 652 Origyptian 03-Dec-15 14:10
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 660 Mike D 05-Dec-15 10:58
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 666 Ulrich 03-Dec-15 17:33
The Pillars 749 loveritas 02-Dec-15 19:07
Re: The Pillars 710 Origyptian 02-Dec-15 19:20
Re: The Pillars 658 Jon Ellison 02-Dec-15 21:17
Re: The Pillars 674 randompHactor 02-Dec-15 23:28
Re: The Pillars 672 Jon Ellison 02-Dec-15 19:44
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 698 Corpuscles 03-Dec-15 00:38
Apologies 611 loveritas 09-Dec-15 07:10
Re: Apologies 688 Corpuscles 09-Dec-15 09:02
The Angle of the Megaliths 573 loveritas 10-Dec-15 00:57
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 712 Thanos5150 10-Dec-15 03:42
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 590 loveritas 10-Dec-15 07:21
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 578 Audrey 10-Dec-15 16:50
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 555 Thanos5150 10-Dec-15 19:47
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 582 loveritas 10-Dec-15 20:45
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 518 Origyptian 10-Dec-15 22:23
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 585 Thanos5150 10-Dec-15 23:50
Transportation of the Megaliths 684 loveritas 11-Dec-15 00:41
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 607 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 02:09
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 621 Corpuscles 11-Dec-15 03:28
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 548 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 03:40
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 491 Corpuscles 11-Dec-15 06:53
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 564 loveritas 11-Dec-15 03:07
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 606 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 04:43
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 445 Audrey 11-Dec-15 06:26
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 526 Thanos5150 11-Dec-15 03:24
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 726 Thanos5150 11-Dec-15 19:04
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 553 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 19:11
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 540 Thanos5150 11-Dec-15 19:33
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 598 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 20:16
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 534 Thanos5150 11-Dec-15 21:11
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 488 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 21:50
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 575 Thanos5150 11-Dec-15 22:13
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 509 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 22:20
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 602 Corpuscles 11-Dec-15 23:05
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 486 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 23:17
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 539 Corpuscles 11-Dec-15 23:53
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 559 Origyptian 12-Dec-15 00:11
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 569 Audrey 12-Dec-15 00:30
Uphill or Downhill? 561 loveritas 11-Dec-15 23:36
Re: Uphill or Dowhill? 492 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 23:40
Re: Uphill or Downhill? 563 Corpuscles 12-Dec-15 00:22
Re: Uphill or Downhill? 629 Audrey 12-Dec-15 00:34
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 582 Audrey 12-Dec-15 00:21
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 623 Corpuscles 12-Dec-15 00:54
gender? 670 randompHactor 12-Dec-15 01:11
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 584 Audrey 12-Dec-15 01:44
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 608 Corpuscles 12-Dec-15 02:09
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 643 Audrey 12-Dec-15 02:17
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 604 Corpuscles 12-Dec-15 03:42
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 552 Corpuscles 11-Dec-15 21:18
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 570 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 21:55
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 507 loveritas 11-Dec-15 22:04
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 533 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 22:17
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 526 Corpuscles 11-Dec-15 22:42
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 544 loveritas 11-Dec-15 23:17
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 513 Audrey 12-Dec-15 00:40
Keel's vs. mudslide etc.. 458 Ratcho 12-Dec-15 08:40
Re: Keel's vs. mudslide etc.. 528 loveritas 12-Dec-15 11:10
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 477 Audrey 12-Dec-15 00:14
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 570 Audrey 11-Dec-15 04:35
Moving Megaliths 603 Dr. Troglodyte 11-Dec-15 17:50
Re: Moving Megaliths 558 Thanos5150 11-Dec-15 18:46
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 535 Corpuscles 10-Dec-15 10:19
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 613 loveritas 10-Dec-15 11:52
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 511 Corpuscles 10-Dec-15 21:18
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 516 Audrey 10-Dec-15 17:14
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 559 Origyptian 10-Dec-15 17:43
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 503 Corpuscles 10-Dec-15 22:21
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 556 Origyptian 10-Dec-15 22:41
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 479 Corpuscles 10-Dec-15 23:33
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 405 loveritas 10-Dec-15 23:55
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 514 Corpuscles 11-Dec-15 00:44
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 504 Luminescence 10-Dec-15 23:19
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 630 Audrey 11-Dec-15 17:03
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 587 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 18:16
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 572 Audrey 11-Dec-15 18:51
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 574 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 19:04
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 741 Robert Jameson 03-Dec-15 11:11
Mod Note > New Topic Postings 631 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Dec-15 14:33
The Tombs 629 loveritas 03-Dec-15 11:33
Re: The Tombs 545 Jon Ellison 03-Dec-15 12:14
Re: The Tombs 604 Origyptian 03-Dec-15 13:42
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Re: The Tombs 668 Origyptian 03-Dec-15 13:37
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 650 Ulrich 03-Dec-15 17:05
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 583 Audrey 04-Dec-15 01:14
The Quarry 550 loveritas 03-Dec-15 21:05
Re: The Quarry 564 Origyptian 03-Dec-15 23:26
Re: The Quarry 552 Ulrich 03-Dec-15 23:37
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Re: The Quarry 614 Origyptian 03-Dec-15 23:56
Re: The Quarry 616 Martin Stower 04-Dec-15 00:10
Re: The Quarry 531 Origyptian 04-Dec-15 00:12
Re: The Quarry 647 Martin Stower 04-Dec-15 00:23
Re: The Quarry 561 Origyptian 04-Dec-15 01:27
Re: The Quarry 522 Martin Stower 05-Dec-15 01:38
Re: The Quarry 531 Audrey 04-Dec-15 01:13
Liebherren 628 Martin Stower 06-Dec-15 00:55
Take your pick... 762 Origyptian 06-Dec-15 02:40
Re: Take your pick... 648 randompHactor 06-Dec-15 03:22
Re: Take your pick... 690 Martin Stower 06-Dec-15 21:34
Re: Take your pick... 478 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 02:56
Re: Take your pick... 528 Martin Stower 07-Dec-15 13:43
Re: Take your pick... 492 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 13:57
Re: Take your pick... 623 Martin Stower 08-Dec-15 00:08
Plants Growing on Rocks for Dummies 756 Martin Stower 06-Dec-15 22:17
Re: Plants Growing on Rocks for Dummies 470 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 03:00
Re: Plants Growing on Rocks for Dummies 601 Martin Stower 07-Dec-15 14:07
Re: Plants Growing on Rocks for Dummies 524 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 14:37
Re: Plants Growing on Rocks for Dummies 617 Martin Stower 08-Dec-15 00:01
Mod Note 580 JonnyMcA 07-Dec-15 14:45
Re: The Quarry 669 Robert Jameson 04-Dec-15 02:22
Re: The Quarry 519 Origyptian 04-Dec-15 03:55
Re: The Quarry 686 Robert Jameson 04-Dec-15 05:10
Re: The Quarry 550 Origyptian 04-Dec-15 14:22
The "Evidence" 649 loveritas 04-Dec-15 11:02
Re: The "Evidence" 512 Origyptian 04-Dec-15 14:24
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 604 Angenia 04-Dec-15 18:09
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 696 Mike D 04-Dec-15 20:16
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 588 Martin Stower 05-Dec-15 01:47
The Tool Marks 668 loveritas 04-Dec-15 20:39
Re: The Tool Marks 624 randompHactor 04-Dec-15 20:51
Re: The Tool Marks 549 Origyptian 04-Dec-15 22:27
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Re: The Tool Marks 610 randompHactor 05-Dec-15 02:27
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Re: The Tool Marks 554 Martin Stower 06-Dec-15 01:06
Re: The Tool Marks 567 randompHactor 06-Dec-15 01:19
Tennyson Speaks 540 Dr. Troglodyte 06-Dec-15 17:14
Re: The Tool Marks 649 Origyptian 04-Dec-15 22:18
Re: The Tool Marks 839 Thanos5150 04-Dec-15 23:31
Re: The Tool Marks 520 Origyptian 04-Dec-15 23:52
The living everything 608 Robert Jameson 05-Dec-15 03:10
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Re:DNA/Akashik record..... 526 Thunderbird 07-Dec-15 05:09
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Re: The Tool Marks 612 Audrey 05-Dec-15 23:51
Re: The Tool Marks 507 Martin Stower 06-Dec-15 01:09
Re: Giants and the Runes 708 Thunderbird 05-Dec-15 04:56
Were The Romans Involved? 587 loveritas 05-Dec-15 11:30
Re: Were The Romans Involved? 688 Robert Jameson 05-Dec-15 13:58
Re: Were The Romans Involved? 537 Morten 05-Dec-15 14:39
Re: Were The Romans Involved? 614 Audrey 05-Dec-15 18:55
Re: Were The Romans Involved? 572 Morten 05-Dec-15 19:50
Re: Were The Romans Involved? 522 Origyptian 05-Dec-15 20:02
Re: Were The Romans Involved? 639 Origyptian 05-Dec-15 17:03
Jon Ellison : "A Complete Idiot" 762 loveritas 05-Dec-15 20:05
Jon has the engineering expertise that others don't 653 Origyptian 05-Dec-15 21:11
Re: Jon Ellison : "A Complete Idiot" 569 Audrey 05-Dec-15 23:42
Re: Jon Ellison : "A Complete Idiot" 611 Robert Jameson 05-Dec-15 23:45
Re: Jon Ellison : "A Complete Idiot" 772 Thunderbird 06-Dec-15 04:09
Re: Baalbek : Geopolymer? 612 Thunderbird 05-Dec-15 22:54
The Crack In The Stone 614 loveritas 06-Dec-15 11:09
Re: The Crack In The Stone 618 Origyptian 06-Dec-15 13:40
Re: The Crack In The Stone 555 Audrey 06-Dec-15 20:06
Re: The Crack In The Stone 552 Audrey 06-Dec-15 20:01
Re: The Crack In The Stone 812 Thanos5150 06-Dec-15 23:04
Re: The Crack In The Stone 535 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-15 23:19
Re: The Crack In The Stone 597 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 03:18
Re: The Crack In The Stone 624 Thanos5150 07-Dec-15 03:52
Re: The Crack In The Stone 520 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 04:09
Re: The Crack In The Stone 570 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 03:39
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Re: The Crack In The Stone 590 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 12:55
Re: The Crack In The Stone 599 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 03:47
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Re: The Crack In The Stone 418 Thanos5150 08-Dec-15 23:58
Re: The Crack In The Stone 575 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 03:20
Is the Stone Attached To The Bedrock? 1275 loveritas 06-Dec-15 20:21
Re: Is the Stone Attached To The Bedrock? 668 Audrey 06-Dec-15 20:58
Re: Is the Stone Attached To The Bedrock? 455 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 02:52
Re: Is the Stone Attached To The Bedrock? 517 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 02:39
Apocalypse at Baalbek 728 loveritas 07-Dec-15 11:16
Re: Apocalypse at Baalbek 520 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 13:27
Re: Apocalypse at Baalbek 683 Ulrich 07-Dec-15 17:38
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Re: Apocalypse at Baalbek 638 Ulrich 07-Dec-15 21:25
Re: Apocalypse at Baalbek 620 Ulrich 07-Dec-15 21:33
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 705 Mike D 07-Dec-15 17:37
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 676 Brian Patterson 07-Dec-15 20:57
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 540 Origyptian 08-Dec-15 04:22
The Real Issue 648 loveritas 08-Dec-15 05:50
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Re: The Real Issue 523 Angenia 08-Dec-15 18:25
Re: The Real Issue 503 Origyptian 08-Dec-15 19:11
Re: The Real Issue 648 Mike D 08-Dec-15 20:37
Re: The Real Issue 606 Origyptian 08-Dec-15 21:26
Re: The Real Issue 572 Corpuscles 08-Dec-15 22:17
Re: The Real Issue 526 Origyptian 09-Dec-15 00:07
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 649 Brian Patterson 08-Dec-15 17:50
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 853 Thanos5150 08-Dec-15 19:21
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 572 Ulrich 08-Dec-15 19:57
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 564 Ulrich 08-Dec-15 20:00
The Conclusion 557 loveritas 08-Dec-15 22:10
Re: The Delusion 629 Origyptian 09-Dec-15 00:03
Re: The Ignorance 550 Audrey 09-Dec-15 03:33
Re: The Conclusion 853 Ulrich 09-Dec-15 16:15
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Re: The Conclusion 664 loveritas 09-Dec-15 20:16
Re: The Confusion 737 Origyptian 09-Dec-15 23:38
Re: The Conclusion 660 Audrey 10-Dec-15 00:38
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 597 Brian Patterson 11-Dec-15 18:38
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 552 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 18:52
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