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According to the new OCT (Origyptian's Crackpot Theory), the cause of the “devastation” at the “quarry” was a so called “mud wave” of mega proportions – the Mega Mud Wave (MMW). However, the MMW didn’t begin life as a mud wave, it was originally a mud slide.

“I'm sorry for not being clear about the origin of the mud-rock layer we see at the excavation site. To be more precise, I'll refer to it as a mud-rock "wave" and not a slide (e,g, removing the implication that gravity was necessarily the primary force).”

After Archae Solenhofen correctly pointed out that the topography of the Baalbek quarry makes this scenario an impossibility, the theory morphed from a mud slide into the MMW.

“To be clear, it may very well have been a "slide" depending on the original elevations. But for now, "wave" is the more suitable generic pending more evidence."

Origyptian isn’t being precise or clear, he’s backflipping - an art he has perfected on this board.

The impossibility of two 1000+ ton megaliths hurtling down the hill, over the quarry walls and landing neatly together can be clearly shown in the photograph below.





Next comes a very questionable statement.

“The place was demolished by a mud-rock flow that buried everything except the tip of PW. We still don't know how far down the bedrock is despite the many meters deep that have been excavated so far.

But based on the orientation/position of the three blocks that were toppled in parallel (including PW), it appears that the mud-rock wave came from the northwest. And like most catastrophic waves, the wave eventually receded somewhat, leaving behind what we see there today.”



Below is an aerial view of the direction of the MMW which defied gravity, as it originated somewhere down the valley, travelled uphill and “devastated” the “infrastructure” in the quarry.

But, he then backflips again with this :

“Those blocks had previously been erected in situ as components within the local infrastructure up there on the hill but were later toppled by a catastrophic mud-rock slide long before the Roman Empire became an entity.”

Work that one out!







“…that buried everything except the tip of PW.”

Why does Origyptian continue with this dubious claim about the Stone Of The Pregnant Woman being buried ”except for the tip,” when it’s patently obvious that it is not the case? The photographs below clearly show that the majority of SOTPW is, and has been, lying in a state of almost total exposure.








In the photograph below it can be easily seen that the SOTPW has only been partly buried and this occurred in two stages.





The following statement in reply to Archae Solenhofen is extremely questionable and is couched in such a way that the burial of the site is now deemed to be fact.

“The fact that we do not yet know what caused that flow doesn't make the physical evidence go away. Now, I'm still waiting to see if you have an alternate perspective of what caused that mud-rock layer that buried that site. Meanwhile, you still haven't chimed in with how you think that thick mud-rock layer came to inundate and bury that entire site.”

As the photograph below clearly shows, the site was never buried under tens of metres of mud conglomerate. The SOTPW is in much the same condition as it is today. Even the outline of the “newly discovered megalith” can be seen under a thin layer of loose material.





Origyptian continues with yet more guff :

“Clearly, I was talking about the 2m flow toppling the blocks and when the block toppled, the "keel" was formed by the same material that comprised the flow.”

Where is the evidence of the 2m flow? It hasn’t covered over the “newly discovered megalith.”

Is the “keel” or base really ‘formed by the same material that comprised the flow?”

The photographs below prove otherwise. The “keel” or base is obviously not comprised of the same material which “buried” the site. The trench between the “substratum” of the SOTPW is filled with loose rubble. The “keel” or base is comprised of the same material as the “substratum”. The “substratum” is limestone.











The trench and surrounding area were never buried by the Mega Mud Wave as the photographs below show. The loose material has been accumulating in the quarry from deposits further up the hill which, in places, is 100 metres higher, as well as added tailings from quarry excavations.

For centuries stone walls have been erected to prevent land slippage. The material around the megaliths is not concreted conglomerate mud-rock, but just loose earth and stones – so loose that even Santa Claus can remove it.







So, what really happened at Baalbek?

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Baalbek : What Really Happened? 3538 loveritas 01-Dec-15 20:00
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 880 Jon Ellison 01-Dec-15 20:34
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 822 eli stills 01-Dec-15 20:55
The Presumptuousness of Eli Stills 700 loveritas 12-Dec-15 11:01
Re: Sticks and stones 800 eli stills 12-Dec-15 14:47
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 805 randompHactor 01-Dec-15 23:48
crackpot 853 Audrey 02-Dec-15 01:10
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 853 Origyptian 02-Dec-15 05:23
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 823 Martin Stower 02-Dec-15 12:30
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 710 Jon Ellison 02-Dec-15 14:44
The Mega Mud Wave 881 loveritas 02-Dec-15 11:48
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 738 Martin Stower 02-Dec-15 12:46
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 714 Origyptian 02-Dec-15 14:29
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 695 Archae Solenhofen 02-Dec-15 20:16
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 680 Jon Ellison 02-Dec-15 23:45
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 653 Martin Stower 03-Dec-15 13:59
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 662 Origyptian 03-Dec-15 14:41
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 654 Jon Ellison 03-Dec-15 17:10
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 733 Martin Stower 03-Dec-15 23:08
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 720 Audrey 03-Dec-15 01:30
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 630 Corpuscles 03-Dec-15 02:41
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 652 Audrey 03-Dec-15 03:57
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 728 Origyptian 02-Dec-15 14:19
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 808 Thanos5150 02-Dec-15 18:51
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 582 Jon Ellison 02-Dec-15 19:15
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 670 Origyptian 03-Dec-15 14:10
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 675 Mike D 05-Dec-15 10:58
Re: The Mega Mud Wave 680 Ulrich 03-Dec-15 17:33
The Pillars 765 loveritas 02-Dec-15 19:07
Re: The Pillars 721 Origyptian 02-Dec-15 19:20
Re: The Pillars 674 Jon Ellison 02-Dec-15 21:17
Re: The Pillars 686 randompHactor 02-Dec-15 23:28
Re: The Pillars 683 Jon Ellison 02-Dec-15 19:44
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 714 Corpuscles 03-Dec-15 00:38
Apologies 632 loveritas 09-Dec-15 07:10
Re: Apologies 705 Corpuscles 09-Dec-15 09:02
The Angle of the Megaliths 585 loveritas 10-Dec-15 00:57
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 730 Thanos5150 10-Dec-15 03:42
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 601 loveritas 10-Dec-15 07:21
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 603 Audrey 10-Dec-15 16:50
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 571 Thanos5150 10-Dec-15 19:47
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 592 loveritas 10-Dec-15 20:45
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 532 Origyptian 10-Dec-15 22:23
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 598 Thanos5150 10-Dec-15 23:50
Transportation of the Megaliths 699 loveritas 11-Dec-15 00:41
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 619 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 02:09
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 632 Corpuscles 11-Dec-15 03:28
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 560 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 03:40
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 503 Corpuscles 11-Dec-15 06:53
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 575 loveritas 11-Dec-15 03:07
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 617 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 04:43
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 456 Audrey 11-Dec-15 06:26
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 537 Thanos5150 11-Dec-15 03:24
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 743 Thanos5150 11-Dec-15 19:04
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 567 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 19:11
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 578 Thanos5150 11-Dec-15 19:33
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 608 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 20:16
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 553 Thanos5150 11-Dec-15 21:11
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 499 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 21:50
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 584 Thanos5150 11-Dec-15 22:13
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 521 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 22:20
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 614 Corpuscles 11-Dec-15 23:05
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 497 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 23:17
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 557 Corpuscles 11-Dec-15 23:53
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 580 Origyptian 12-Dec-15 00:11
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 581 Audrey 12-Dec-15 00:30
Uphill or Downhill? 572 loveritas 11-Dec-15 23:36
Re: Uphill or Dowhill? 505 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 23:40
Re: Uphill or Downhill? 579 Corpuscles 12-Dec-15 00:22
Re: Uphill or Downhill? 643 Audrey 12-Dec-15 00:34
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 593 Audrey 12-Dec-15 00:21
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 635 Corpuscles 12-Dec-15 00:54
gender? 681 randompHactor 12-Dec-15 01:11
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 596 Audrey 12-Dec-15 01:44
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 620 Corpuscles 12-Dec-15 02:09
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 654 Audrey 12-Dec-15 02:17
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 615 Corpuscles 12-Dec-15 03:42
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 567 Corpuscles 11-Dec-15 21:18
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 581 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 21:55
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 523 loveritas 11-Dec-15 22:04
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 547 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 22:17
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 548 Corpuscles 11-Dec-15 22:42
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 554 loveritas 11-Dec-15 23:17
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 524 Audrey 12-Dec-15 00:40
Keel's vs. mudslide etc.. 477 Ratcho 12-Dec-15 08:40
Re: Keel's vs. mudslide etc.. 541 loveritas 12-Dec-15 11:10
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 490 Audrey 12-Dec-15 00:14
Re: Transportation of the Megaliths 585 Audrey 11-Dec-15 04:35
Moving Megaliths 619 Dr. Troglodyte 11-Dec-15 17:50
Re: Moving Megaliths 573 Thanos5150 11-Dec-15 18:46
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 548 Corpuscles 10-Dec-15 10:19
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 624 loveritas 10-Dec-15 11:52
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 538 Corpuscles 10-Dec-15 21:18
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 534 Audrey 10-Dec-15 17:14
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 589 Origyptian 10-Dec-15 17:43
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 514 Corpuscles 10-Dec-15 22:21
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 567 Origyptian 10-Dec-15 22:41
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 490 Corpuscles 10-Dec-15 23:33
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 418 loveritas 10-Dec-15 23:55
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 532 Corpuscles 11-Dec-15 00:44
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 516 Luminescence 10-Dec-15 23:19
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 653 Audrey 11-Dec-15 17:03
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 599 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 18:16
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 583 Audrey 11-Dec-15 18:51
Re: The Angle of the Megaliths 584 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 19:04
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 761 Robert Jameson 03-Dec-15 11:11
Mod Note > New Topic Postings 644 Dr. Troglodyte 03-Dec-15 14:33
The Tombs 639 loveritas 03-Dec-15 11:33
Re: The Tombs 562 Jon Ellison 03-Dec-15 12:14
Re: The Tombs 618 Origyptian 03-Dec-15 13:42
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Re: The Tombs 685 Origyptian 03-Dec-15 13:37
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 662 Ulrich 03-Dec-15 17:05
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 594 Audrey 04-Dec-15 01:14
The Quarry 563 loveritas 03-Dec-15 21:05
Re: The Quarry 575 Origyptian 03-Dec-15 23:26
Re: The Quarry 564 Ulrich 03-Dec-15 23:37
Re: The Quarry 632 Martin Stower 03-Dec-15 23:52
Re: The Quarry 636 Origyptian 03-Dec-15 23:56
Re: The Quarry 647 Martin Stower 04-Dec-15 00:10
Re: The Quarry 548 Origyptian 04-Dec-15 00:12
Re: The Quarry 658 Martin Stower 04-Dec-15 00:23
Re: The Quarry 571 Origyptian 04-Dec-15 01:27
Re: The Quarry 533 Martin Stower 05-Dec-15 01:38
Re: The Quarry 546 Audrey 04-Dec-15 01:13
Liebherren 639 Martin Stower 06-Dec-15 00:55
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Re: Take your pick... 669 randompHactor 06-Dec-15 03:22
Re: Take your pick... 700 Martin Stower 06-Dec-15 21:34
Re: Take your pick... 488 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 02:56
Re: Take your pick... 561 Martin Stower 07-Dec-15 13:43
Re: Take your pick... 503 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 13:57
Re: Take your pick... 634 Martin Stower 08-Dec-15 00:08
Plants Growing on Rocks for Dummies 773 Martin Stower 06-Dec-15 22:17
Re: Plants Growing on Rocks for Dummies 488 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 03:00
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Re: Plants Growing on Rocks for Dummies 538 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 14:37
Re: Plants Growing on Rocks for Dummies 638 Martin Stower 08-Dec-15 00:01
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Re: The Quarry 706 Robert Jameson 04-Dec-15 02:22
Re: The Quarry 530 Origyptian 04-Dec-15 03:55
Re: The Quarry 702 Robert Jameson 04-Dec-15 05:10
Re: The Quarry 561 Origyptian 04-Dec-15 14:22
The "Evidence" 682 loveritas 04-Dec-15 11:02
Re: The "Evidence" 525 Origyptian 04-Dec-15 14:24
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 618 Angenia 04-Dec-15 18:09
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 718 Mike D 04-Dec-15 20:16
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 609 Martin Stower 05-Dec-15 01:47
The Tool Marks 679 loveritas 04-Dec-15 20:39
Re: The Tool Marks 633 randompHactor 04-Dec-15 20:51
Re: The Tool Marks 564 Origyptian 04-Dec-15 22:27
Re: The Tool Marks 603 Martin Stower 05-Dec-15 02:19
Re: The Tool Marks 620 randompHactor 05-Dec-15 02:27
Re: The Tool Marks 530 Martin Stower 06-Dec-15 00:23
Re: The Tool Marks 622 randompHactor 06-Dec-15 01:02
Re: The Tool Marks 568 Martin Stower 06-Dec-15 01:06
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Tennyson Speaks 550 Dr. Troglodyte 06-Dec-15 17:14
Re: The Tool Marks 663 Origyptian 04-Dec-15 22:18
Re: The Tool Marks 869 Thanos5150 04-Dec-15 23:31
Re: The Tool Marks 532 Origyptian 04-Dec-15 23:52
The living everything 623 Robert Jameson 05-Dec-15 03:10
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Re:DNA/Akashik record..... 536 Thunderbird 07-Dec-15 05:09
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Re: The Tool Marks 638 Audrey 05-Dec-15 23:51
Re: The Tool Marks 518 Martin Stower 06-Dec-15 01:09
Re: Giants and the Runes 746 Thunderbird 05-Dec-15 04:56
Were The Romans Involved? 596 loveritas 05-Dec-15 11:30
Re: Were The Romans Involved? 706 Robert Jameson 05-Dec-15 13:58
Re: Were The Romans Involved? 548 Morten 05-Dec-15 14:39
Re: Were The Romans Involved? 629 Audrey 05-Dec-15 18:55
Re: Were The Romans Involved? 583 Morten 05-Dec-15 19:50
Re: Were The Romans Involved? 533 Origyptian 05-Dec-15 20:02
Re: Were The Romans Involved? 649 Origyptian 05-Dec-15 17:03
Jon Ellison : "A Complete Idiot" 788 loveritas 05-Dec-15 20:05
Jon has the engineering expertise that others don't 662 Origyptian 05-Dec-15 21:11
Re: Jon Ellison : "A Complete Idiot" 582 Audrey 05-Dec-15 23:42
Re: Jon Ellison : "A Complete Idiot" 626 Robert Jameson 05-Dec-15 23:45
Re: Jon Ellison : "A Complete Idiot" 788 Thunderbird 06-Dec-15 04:09
Re: Baalbek : Geopolymer? 634 Thunderbird 05-Dec-15 22:54
The Crack In The Stone 631 loveritas 06-Dec-15 11:09
Re: The Crack In The Stone 629 Origyptian 06-Dec-15 13:40
Re: The Crack In The Stone 566 Audrey 06-Dec-15 20:06
Re: The Crack In The Stone 563 Audrey 06-Dec-15 20:01
Re: The Crack In The Stone 835 Thanos5150 06-Dec-15 23:04
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Re: The Crack In The Stone 619 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 03:18
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Re: The Crack In The Stone 532 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 04:09
Re: The Crack In The Stone 595 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 03:39
Re: The Crack In The Stone 544 Thanos5150 07-Dec-15 04:35
Re: The Crack In The Stone 609 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 12:55
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Re: The Crack In The Stone 640 Origyptian 08-Dec-15 23:23
Re: The Crack In The Stone 428 Thanos5150 08-Dec-15 23:58
Re: The Crack In The Stone 586 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 03:20
Is the Stone Attached To The Bedrock? 1351 loveritas 06-Dec-15 20:21
Re: Is the Stone Attached To The Bedrock? 687 Audrey 06-Dec-15 20:58
Re: Is the Stone Attached To The Bedrock? 466 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 02:52
Re: Is the Stone Attached To The Bedrock? 549 Origyptian 07-Dec-15 02:39
Apocalypse at Baalbek 775 loveritas 07-Dec-15 11:16
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Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 720 Mike D 07-Dec-15 17:37
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 690 Brian Patterson 07-Dec-15 20:57
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 550 Origyptian 08-Dec-15 04:22
The Real Issue 662 loveritas 08-Dec-15 05:50
Re: The Real Issue 600 Origyptian 08-Dec-15 14:56
Re: The Real Issue 536 Angenia 08-Dec-15 18:25
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Re: The Real Issue 621 Origyptian 08-Dec-15 21:26
Re: The Real Issue 585 Corpuscles 08-Dec-15 22:17
Re: The Real Issue 539 Origyptian 09-Dec-15 00:07
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 669 Brian Patterson 08-Dec-15 17:50
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 881 Thanos5150 08-Dec-15 19:21
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 585 Ulrich 08-Dec-15 19:57
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 594 Ulrich 08-Dec-15 20:00
The Conclusion 567 loveritas 08-Dec-15 22:10
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Re: The Confusion 751 Origyptian 09-Dec-15 23:38
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Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 609 Brian Patterson 11-Dec-15 18:38
Re: Baalbek : What Really Happened? 568 Origyptian 11-Dec-15 18:52
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