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Open mind Wrote:
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> I believe they said that because it was simply there the entire time and with zero
> chance of evaluating it as we can today, they opted for the tried and true of the trogladitic -
> "The Gods did it".


A breath of fresh air. Thank goodness.
You're not alone:

See last paragraph here:

    "For example, a very rough estimate tells me that a column of water that fills the Descending Passage in G1 from the main entrance down to the AP junction weighs over 50 tons. It may very well be able to bear down enough water pressure to slide back the granite plugs up the Ascending Passage, if the plugs were just sitting there, not so tightly jammed as we see them today, and the system was polished, lubed, and well-maintained to design specifications..."

and also here:

    "...it's fair to assume the seal around the plugs is air tight at STP conditions. Regarding water, that depends on how much water and whether it's under pressure [ ;) ] and where the water is! We would need to consider,

    1. static pool of water in the Ascending Passage bearing down on the plugs.
    2. water in that same column, but under pressure (static or pulsed pressure)
    3. static pool of water in the Descending Passage bearing up on the plugs.
    4. water in that same column, but under pressure (static or pulsed pressure)
    5. air in either column, but under pressure (static or pulsed)"

I believe the physical evidence in the "prism stone" cavity and the DP floor at that junction hints of other hardware originally installed in that location, and makes me wonder whether the granite plugs might have originally not been installed as naked stone against stone but rather were part of a more elaborate -- and valuable enough to salvage -- gasket/grommet/valve assembly that has since been pilfered, e.g., by al Mamoun, et al.

You also might be interested in this perspective of the Granite Plugs that disputes the "security mechanism" hypothesis.

Also, I consider John Cadman's "hydraulic (ram) pump" model to be required 'reading' in any study of the "Great Pyramid Machine":
And don't forget Edward Kunkel's infamous US patent of a ram pump fashioned from G1's innards back in the '50s.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 22-Nov-15 16:59 by Origyptian.

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Removable plugs on purpose 2655 Open mind 21-Nov-15 17:11
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 803 cladking 21-Nov-15 17:39
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 736 Open mind 21-Nov-15 18:33
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 624 cladking 21-Nov-15 18:45
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 835 Open mind 21-Nov-15 19:44
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 705 cladking 21-Nov-15 19:52
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 780 Open mind 21-Nov-15 20:28
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 651 cladking 21-Nov-15 21:04
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 724 Open mind 21-Nov-15 23:26
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 727 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Nov-15 00:53
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 808 Corpuscles 22-Nov-15 11:32
Pragmatic Semantics 862 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Nov-15 18:18
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 636 Open mind 22-Nov-15 17:30
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 669 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Nov-15 18:45
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 725 Open mind 23-Nov-15 21:22
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 641 Origyptian 23-Nov-15 21:32
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 648 Open mind 23-Nov-15 22:27
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 680 Origyptian 23-Nov-15 22:39
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 588 cladking 23-Nov-15 22:39
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 668 Origyptian 23-Nov-15 22:53
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 625 Dr. Troglodyte 24-Nov-15 16:25
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 756 Open mind 24-Nov-15 19:06
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 698 cladking 24-Nov-15 19:47
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 744 Open mind 24-Nov-15 20:30
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 531 cladking 24-Nov-15 20:57
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 674 Jon Ellison 24-Nov-15 21:31
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 578 cladking 24-Nov-15 22:33
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 686 Origyptian 24-Nov-15 20:36
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 663 Open mind 24-Nov-15 20:49
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 622 Origyptian 24-Nov-15 21:02
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 623 Open mind 24-Nov-15 21:14
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 637 Jon Ellison 24-Nov-15 20:51
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 642 cladking 22-Nov-15 20:58
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 678 Origyptian 22-Nov-15 16:58
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 672 Open mind 22-Nov-15 18:14
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 729 Open mind 22-Nov-15 20:36
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 653 cladking 22-Nov-15 21:08
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 638 Brian Patterson 24-Nov-15 18:38
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 552 cladking 24-Nov-15 19:54
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 614 Brian Patterson 24-Nov-15 20:59
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 692 Open mind 24-Nov-15 21:35
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 627 Origyptian 24-Nov-15 21:38
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 658 Open mind 24-Nov-15 21:48
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 626 Origyptian 24-Nov-15 22:22
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 589 Jon Ellison 24-Nov-15 21:43
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 599 Origyptian 24-Nov-15 21:55
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 591 Brian Patterson 24-Nov-15 22:07
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 603 cladking 24-Nov-15 22:15
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 722 Origyptian 24-Nov-15 22:15
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 632 Jon Ellison 27-Nov-15 18:29
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 682 Brian Patterson 24-Nov-15 22:22
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 659 Origyptian 24-Nov-15 22:47
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 623 cladking 25-Nov-15 00:01
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 754 Martin Stower 27-Nov-15 16:25
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 529 cladking 28-Nov-15 00:04
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 661 Martin Stower 28-Nov-15 00:43
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 592 cladking 28-Nov-15 01:13
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 686 Martin Stower 28-Nov-15 02:03
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 593 cladking 28-Nov-15 02:48
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 775 Martin Stower 28-Nov-15 13:40
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 621 cladking 28-Nov-15 15:16
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 719 Brian Patterson 28-Nov-15 15:45
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 582 Martin Stower 28-Nov-15 20:47
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 599 Merrell 28-Nov-15 21:39
According to Archae... 601 Ratcho 28-Nov-15 22:09
Re: According to Archae... 599 Merrell 28-Nov-15 22:54
Re: According to Archae... 607 Ratcho 28-Nov-15 22:58
Re: According to Archae... 631 Martin Stower 28-Nov-15 23:11
Mindset 647 Ratcho 28-Nov-15 23:36
Re: Mindset 639 Martin Stower 28-Nov-15 23:49
Re: Mindset 623 Merrell 29-Nov-15 10:17
Re: Mindset 780 Thanos5150 29-Nov-15 18:33
Re: Mindset 651 Merrell 29-Nov-15 22:49
Re: Mindset 481 cladking 29-Nov-15 23:03
Re: Mindset 649 Origyptian 30-Nov-15 04:47
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Re: Mindset 604 Martin Stower 29-Nov-15 23:31
Re: Mindset 669 Thanos5150 29-Nov-15 23:46
Re: According to Archae... 682 Martin Stower 28-Nov-15 23:28
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 574 cladking 28-Nov-15 23:13
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 474 cladking 28-Nov-15 01:21
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 631 Brian Patterson 24-Nov-15 22:57
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 733 Origyptian 24-Nov-15 23:19
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 626 cladking 24-Nov-15 23:57
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 624 Martin Stower 25-Nov-15 00:10
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 743 Dr. Troglodyte 25-Nov-15 00:42
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 676 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-15 01:14
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 647 Open mind 25-Nov-15 04:05
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 615 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-15 07:03
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 642 Open mind 25-Nov-15 13:18
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 507 Open mind 25-Nov-15 13:37
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 695 Open mind 25-Nov-15 03:47
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 733 Origyptian 25-Nov-15 03:58
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 716 Dr. Troglodyte 25-Nov-15 16:25
Why the Plugs were covered by dirt 707 Howard West 29-Nov-15 16:48
Re: Why the Plugs were covered by dirt 672 Origyptian 30-Nov-15 04:57
Re: Why the Plugs were covered by dirt 541 Howard West 30-Nov-15 16:07
Old Posters seem to act like the Caliph Omar 653 Howard West 30-Nov-15 17:11
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 607 Brian Patterson 30-Nov-15 17:17
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 579 Howard West 30-Nov-15 18:07
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 556 cladking 30-Nov-15 21:07
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 597 Origyptian 01-Dec-15 04:56
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 675 Brian Patterson 01-Dec-15 17:10
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 625 Brian Patterson 30-Nov-15 21:54
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 600 Brian Patterson 30-Nov-15 22:14
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 663 Howard West 30-Nov-15 23:01
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 598 Brian Patterson 30-Nov-15 23:15
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 648 Howard West 01-Dec-15 02:34
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 720 Howard West 01-Dec-15 22:36
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 703 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Dec-15 00:48
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 597 Brian Patterson 02-Dec-15 00:29
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 689 Howard West 02-Dec-15 03:46
Re: Removable plugs on purpose 625 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Dec-15 21:04
some people just need lots of pictures 907 Howard West 03-Dec-15 02:12


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